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Beer is believed to be over 10,000 years old. Although no one knows its exact origins, some agricultural historians believe that the first beer may have been produced accidentally when a stash of grain was soaked by rain and then warmed by the sun. If this mixture were spontaneously fermented by wild, airborne yeast—which thrives in just these warm, moist conditions—beer would have been produced (Encarta).

Fermented beverages have been preferred over water throughout the ages: they are safer, provide psychotropic effects, and are more nutritious. Some have even said alcohol was the primary agent for the development of Western civilization, since more healthy individuals (even if inebriated much of the time) lived longer and had greater reproductive success. (Upenn Museum)

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1. Beer vs NN  ½-½11803EventB00 Uncommon King's Pawn Opening

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Nov-28-04  AdrianP: <Yoozum> You are not alone. Bogoljubow seems to have come to the conclusion that this was Alekhine's secret...

"In the 1934 match he thought he had solved the puzzle: Alekhine was hypnotizing him! So he armed himself with dark eyeglasses. The glasses helped only for a game or two, but then they became annoying – to Bogolyubov. Next he decided that Alekhine’s drinking was what accounted for the difference. So during the next three games, which were played in Mannheim, Bogolyubov stopped giving Alekhine odds of hard liquor. Alekhine’s practice at that time was to have a few quick drinks at the bar during each game, and in Mannheim Bogolyubov matched him drink for drink. Amazingly, it worked, but again only for a game or two. Bogolyubov lost this match, as he had lost the first one in 1929, without ever figuring out why" (Hans Kmoch on Bogoljubow, here http://www.chesscafe.com/fromarchiv...)

Nov-28-04  Avion: yoozum, I think it's only a thing of confiance. When you are drunk, you have less inhibitions and more confident in your moves...that's it.

And also that when we are drunk, we always want to try something in the game...

Nov-28-04  Knight13: Oh yeah. I think I AM underage here.
Nov-28-04  mack: <If you are a alcoholic and want to stop, call now on 1-800-9876 for free information about how to stop beening an alcoholic!> Someone's wankered...
Nov-28-04  Knight13: <mack> What's with <@#$%* off kid>?
Nov-28-04  pawn52: <knight13> mack was drunk when he said it, it was a plain as day further up the page.
Nov-29-04  mack: Yup, I admit it completely.
Nov-29-04  Appaz: I don't find that moderate amounts of alcohol inhibit my chess playing abilities. On the contrary, it may even increase it. But the important word is "moderate", as beeing <drunk> makes me really <dumb> (sometimes that is just what I want).

In chess, where nerves are important, alcohol can make you relax, helping you to play more freely. It can also make you daring, giving you just that little courage to choose an unclear, but offensive continuation that makes your opponent sweat a little more.

I do believe that small amounts of alcohol can work as kind of doping in chess, and doping rules is on area where chess can conflict with traditional sports. Alcohol is on the doping list, and until recently you could get punished for drinking too much coffee.

On alcohol and sports: http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/022...

An e-mail regarding dope testing in the US Championship: http://www.ishipress.com/notodope.htm

Nov-29-04  Knight13: Alcohol can kill you or even makes you "down" for up 10 years sleeping. If you drink alcohol for years, you can have psychological dependence to it. That's not a good thing.

Warning: Using drugs makes you feel good, but it WILL kill you if you attached to psychological defendence. Using drugs is killing yourself, and killing yourself is not fun at all.

So if you are not a drug user, never use them. Even if your life is really terrible and want to die.

Nov-30-04  mack: <knight13> I've tried being flippant, but clearly that didn't work, so let me just say it plain and clear instead: stop talking. Not sure about the rest of you but I for one do not look too kindly on some 13 year old I've never met preaching to me about alcohol and drugs. You're right to be wary about misuse and so forth but in actual fact both alcohol and (some) drugs are lovely and should be taken at regular intervals. Please stop or I'll have to put you on my ignore list.
Nov-30-04  acirce: <Please stop or I'll have to put you on my ignore list> Do so instead of telling him what to say, as he is not breaking any rules. Besides I rather see him "preaching" sensible things than your destructive pro-drug nonsense: "some drugs are lovely and should be taken". Fascinating how a 13-year-old can be so much wiser than many adults on this matter.
Nov-30-04  Lawrence: "A fella could die of thirst in a place like this." <Brendan Behan>
Nov-30-04
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  tpstar: <Lawrence> What'll ya have? Let me guess = a Samuel Adams. ;>D
Nov-30-04  mack: <Do so instead of telling him what to say, as he is not breaking any rules.>

I don't like banning anybody; <knight13> does, from time to time, have vaguely interesting things to say and I wouldn't want to miss out. Besides, it would look like I was just banning him because we hold differing views over something, which would not be true; I just don't like his manner at all.

<Besides I rather see him "preaching" sensible things than your destructive pro-drug nonsense: "some drugs are lovely and should be taken".>

You're just being silly. I'm hardly trying to turn knight13 into a heroin addict or something, as your misquotation implies. Besides, "destructive pro-drug nonsense"? Deary me. I'm just being realistic; open mind and that.

<Fascinating how a 13-year-old can be so much wiser than many adults on this matter.>

Kapow! Real sucker punch there. It's not fascinating at all, nor is it true, actually. Our dear friend Knight13 is merely regurgitating hopeless anti-drug "facts" which are so churned into children at a young age. Of course one has to be careful with this sort of thing but I would say it's equally irresponsible to make generalisations such as this.

Nov-30-04  acirce: <You're just being silly. I'm hardly trying to turn knight13 into a heroin addict or something, as your misquotation implies. Besides, "destructive pro-drug nonsense"? Deary me. I'm just being realistic; open mind and that.>

My "misquotation" doesn't imply anything more than you actually said, since it's not a misquotation. And yeah, "open-minded" is better than responsible. Just keep on arguing for the sake of taking drugs on a site visited by children while priding yourself over your "open mind".

Nice to see you.

Nov-30-04  mack: Look, acirce, not sure if you've just blocked me but I don't really care to be honest. The point I was making - albeit ineloquently - is that there is a disgusting amount of inaccurate anti-drug propaganda which is spoonfed into children, and that is very damaging indeed. <Knight13>'s tedious ramblings about drugs and alcohol are plain out of order and also completely besides the point on this chess website. They're also misinformed.
Nov-30-04
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  tpstar: Time for a good drinking song:

99 bottles of beer on the wall/99 bottles of beer/You take one down, pass it around/Next thing you know you're beening an alcoholic

Nov-30-04  acirce: I didn't block you. His posts were not more beside the point on a chess site than, for example, your reoccuring reports about "tonight's guest ale". Not to mention that he is a CHILD and can't be expected to have reached your levels of wisdom. I believe I have said everything I want to say on the subject and I don't have anything against you so let's leave it at that.
Nov-30-04  mack: Let's do that <acirce>.
Nov-30-04  mack: <Next thing you know you're beening an alcoholic>

Hahaha; if I were to vote in these forum oscar things I you'd get funniest kibitzer. Unfortunately, I'm not going to, sorry.

Nov-30-04
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  cu8sfan: Peace! Let's drink to... No, let's not. (-:
Nov-30-04  Knight13: <99 bottles of beer on the wall/99 bottles of beer/You take one down, pass it around/Next thing you know you're beening an alcoholic> If you drink 99 bottles in one day, it would kill you. So don't do that. :)

Last thing:

If you like alcohol, it's okay. But don't drink it a lot. When you became a psychological dependence person, you'll never stop it. So drink like one bottle in 3 days, and I believe you are okay. Only for those who knows what ALCOHOL is.

I believe I've said everything I want to say about the DRUG stuff. So... I quit!

Nov-30-04  Stonewaller2: <yoozum: alcohol boosts my creativity in chess> I happen to have benign essential tremor, a condition which causes my hands to shake during periods of stress such as important moves during chess games, sometimes actually affecting my ability to keep score. My neurologist prescribes alcohol in moderation, which, acting as a central nervous system depressant, lessens the problem.

But I'm not at all sure GM Alekine was the guy they had in mind when they said, "drink like a Grandmaster."

Wasn't it Staunton who explained, after filching one of his opponents' drams, "he left a whiskey en prise so I took it en passant?"

And what about Falkbeer (1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5)?

Nov-30-04  azaris: <Stonewaller2> Blackburne.
Dec-01-04  beer: <knight13 does, from time to time, have vaguely interesting things to say and I wouldn't want to miss out.> This had to have been written after one too many.
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