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Jul-01-10 | | BobCrisp: <Jamboree>, it will be instructive to see whether your post survives the day. As for the dating, the first three parts comprise Chess Notes 2965, 2966 and 2971 which originally appeared in Winter's Chess Cafe column some time in 2003, I think. The others are from 2008. |
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Jul-01-10
 | | Eric Schiller: I never censor, but have refuted Winter's nonsense many times. The point of my book was to test computer analysis of combinations, which were drawn from many sources.Of course many of them are in the encyclopedia and every single one of them was published somewhere or I wouldn't have known about them. But combination books, including the referenced encyclopedia, have NEVER cited publication sources for each position. NEVER. I challenge any critic to show an example where the author did. I cited players and event, which is more than some do. Winter just wanted to attack me, but my publisher had a good laugh at this "plagarism" charge. We could have sued him but that is not my style. He is just a termite, not worth the effort. I hope you all have notice his blatant bias against Jews which underlies all of his writing, the goal of which is to try to rewrite chess history to reduce the accomplishments of anyone with Jewish connections and elevate non-Jews. That's his clear motivation and you must notice that all of his usual targets share that characteristic. |
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Jul-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: All the criticism Schiller has taken on this page, I've never seen a post deleted. |
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Jul-01-10 | | TheFocus: I have been guilty of criticism of <Eric Schiller> but have since seen that as folly. <ES> is a dedicated teacher and scholar of the game. His many fans attest to the influence he has had on them. You either like some of his books or not. He has a strong following, and many of his students have only the highest praise for him. I met <ES> briefly in Hawaii and he seemed like a very nice person. I also like Winters' works (I have been cited several times on Chess Notes), but... Winters is Winters. Each person deserves their respect for their contributions to chess. And I agree, no matter what the criticism <ES> has received here, he doesn't attack the person or delete their posts. |
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Jul-01-10 | | whatthefat: <I hope you all have notice his blatant bias against Jews which underlies all of his writing, the goal of which is to try to rewrite chess history to reduce the accomplishments of anyone with Jewish connections and elevate non-Jews. That's his clear motivation and you must notice that all of his usual targets share that characteristic.> Bobby? Is that you? |
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Jul-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: Dear Mr. TheFocus:
My name is not Winters, it is Winter. W-I-N-T-E-R. I can't believe you could make such a gross error! this proves you know nothing about chess!! Irritatingly yours,
Edward Winter |
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Jul-01-10 | | theagenbiteofoutwit: I don't think the lack of a bibliography takes away from the value of a such a book. I appreciate the work, Mr. Schiller. <I hope you all have notice his blatant bias against Jews which underlies all of his writing, the goal of which is to try to rewrite chess history to reduce the accomplishments of anyone with Jewish connections and elevate non-Jews. That's his clear motivation and you must notice that all of his usual targets share that characteristic.> I respectfully disagree. I don't think Keene is Jewish and as far as I can tell, he gets the harshest Winter. I also think that Winter wrote that the author of the worst chess book ever was either Indian of Pakistani. I've never read anything of his disparaging the legacies of Nimzowitsch, Botvinnik, Steinitz, although he has been very critical of Kasparov's writing, and Fine's psychoanalysis, but even in those cases, I don't think he's attacked their chess careers. I've never read anything that's indicative of a blanket attack on Jews in general. |
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Jul-01-10 | | TheFocus: <Jim Bartle>< Dear Mr. TheFocus: My name is not Winters, it is Winter. W-I-N-T-E-R. I can't believe you could make such a gross error! this proves you know nothing about chess!! Irritatingly yours,
Edward Winter>
ROFL!!! I should have known better. Now Winter will send the Chess Police to kick in my door and steal all my Pawns! |
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Jul-01-10
 | | keypusher: Clearly not the kind of dude you want to mess with.
http://www.91now.com/down/upload/20... |
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Jul-01-10 | | wordfunph: <TheFocus: I met <ES> briefly in Hawaii and he seemed like a very nice person.> :-) |
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Jul-01-10
 | | Check It Out: <keypusher> Yes, whoever could come up with the <Frankenstein> variation deserves a respectful distance. |
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Jul-01-10 | | BobCrisp: < I never censor...> Good to hear it. But I know a man who does. We'll see. <The point of my book was to test computer analysis of combinations, which were drawn from many sources.> According to an Amazon review:
<Although it is hard to imagine a totally worthless book on chess combinations, this book comes very close. The author gives no solutions to the combinations, only the first move of each. Space supposedly does not permit the author to give full solutions, but space never stopped other authors of similar books. M. K. Blokh's "The Art of Combination" has more combinations, complete solutions and a lower price than Schiller's book, as can be said for nearly every other book on chess combinations.> So let's get this straight. Am I correct in thinking that this is a puzzle book without proper solutions and the reader is expected to computer analyse them instead? What could have possessed you to undertake such a ridiculous project? Another Amazon review states:
<Rather, he simply copied, without credit, the 1980 book "Encyclopedia of Chess Middlegames". For example, out of 132 positions in Schiller's book covering 1900-1945, all but a half-dozen are in the "Encyclopedia"; so are all 13 positions from 1958, etc.> How many sources did you say?
<Winter just wanted to attack me, but my publisher had a good laugh at this "plagarism" charge.> Is that <Jim Eades> of Hypermodern Press? It went bust, didn't it? <He is just a termite, not worth the effort.> An interesting piece of imagery.
<I hope you all have notice his blatant bias against Jews which underlies all of his writing, the goal of which is to try to rewrite chess history to reduce the accomplishments of anyone with Jewish connections and elevate non-Jews. > So THAT explains the <Capablanca> book. Boy, Eric, you've really overreached yourself this time. |
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Jul-01-10
 | | tpstar: <Eric Schiller> Your posts have become much sharper ever since you had a stroke, like these inflammatory comments about "bias" and your recent opinions about a former FIDE President who just passed away. It would be much better for your recovery and your demeanor to focus on positive interactions here, like your books and your games, rather than creating or perpetuating any irresolvable disputes. As I wrote before, Mr. Winter is the foremost chess historian of our time and deserves his meticulous reputation, yet he seems to enjoy proving people wrong even more than documenting the truth, and this oneupmanship contest is probably his foremost motivation. You may be 100% correct about his particular slant, yet please choose your words carefully as you honestly don't need more conflict right now. I also suspect he visits here at times, primarily to check up on you and Mr. Keene. =) Best wishes. |
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Jul-01-10 | | acirce: <I hope you all have notice his blatant bias against Jews which underlies all of his writing, the goal of which is to try to rewrite chess history to reduce the accomplishments of anyone with Jewish connections and elevate non-Jews. That's his clear motivation and you must notice that all of his usual targets share that characteristic.> Oh my God. |
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Jul-01-10 | | BobCrisp: <You may be 100% correct about his particular slant...> And if he isn't? But you're only concerned about Eric's health, am I right? I mean, we've got to stamp this termite, sorry, this sort of thing out right from the beginning or who knows where it'll end? |
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Jul-01-10
 | | tpstar: <BobCrisp> I would like you to make things better and not worse. Thank you. |
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Jul-01-10 | | dunkenchess: He who listens to Eric, a mindless bum, is a sucker. |
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Jul-01-10
 | | Eric Schiller: Here are comments from someone who used the book for its intended purpose: http://www.stevemaughan.com/chess-r... As for the other issues, I remind everyone that Ray Keene is married to the wonderful Annette Goodman and is David Levy's brother-in-law. Further, note that Winter cherry-picks the years. The more recent examples were not in ECM but were found in magazines. I felt that any competent chessplayer could work out details given the key move. If I was wrong I deserve criticism on that count. That would be legit. Complaining that many positions are in ECM is a comment that could apply to most, if not all, combination collections, and most of the collections on this site. It is also true that almost all the games here can be found in any database. So what? These are empty charges from a termite bigot. |
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Jul-01-10 | | dunkenchess: Eric is like the contra-bida in the Harry Potter episode. Highly educated but evil and deranged. |
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Jul-01-10
 | | tpstar: <dunkenchess> You may not realize the complete history about player pages on this site. Those of us who happen to have our own page may use it for any purpose (from chess to cookie recipes) provided everyone still follows the Posting Guidelines. It is not advised to use your player page for attacks against outside parties, yet as a member of the group Mr. Schiller is still protected against personal attacks by other users. This is not a double standard, and all members of the group are welcome to upload a single game to get their own page. This policy was established in 2004 regarding the Ray Keene Crowd controversy, then revisited when Kramnik supporters attacked Susan Polgar during San Luis 2005. Surely you understand that Wesley So fans violated the Posting Guidelines on my player page and my chessforum many times, yet these posts are read everywhere. If this is how you want the world to see Wesley So, there you go. Don't forget our first encounter. I haven't. =) |
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Jul-02-10 | | SugarDom: This guy is just conversing with dunkenchess and he finds a way yet again to attack those who are keeping quiet... tsk tsk tsk |
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Jul-02-10 | | dunkenchess: Oh, hi tpstar.
You aligned with Eric? Where were you when Eric maligned FIDE President Florencio Campomanes after the latter's death? Campo, as we called him, was an honorable man that's why he became the President of FIDE. Now, what is the achievement of Eric? What is he trying to proved? That's weird. You do not like me attacking Eric but you like Eric attacking the President? Weird again. Well, the same feathers flock together. You and Eric are just the same, Weird further. Now you are bringing in others who are innocent. Weird moreover. You are just like a croaking toad jumping into an empty swimming pool. Perhaps I will elect you Vice-President to the President Eric of the Contra-Bidas. At least Eric will not get jealous being the President of the Contra-Bida group. The two of you maybe are graduates of Grade 1 Section 40. Me, I finished high school so my education is high. (This is not counting 7 years in a university). |
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Jul-02-10 | | dunkenchess: toast amigos!
kampai amigos! |
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Jul-02-10 | | SugarDom: Now TPstar i'm warning you...
This is between you and dunkenchess.
We are not interested in the issue.
If you drag again other groups/people here between your argument, i'm reporting you to the admins... |
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Jul-02-10
 | | moronovich: Oh,I see the great doctor is giving advice to ES , without being asked for one.... So next time you will tell the airplanes at the hawaiian airport when to land and take off,right !? |
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