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Oct-28-12 | | Conrad93: Worth: what something is valued by someone else.
Worth: it's actual merit or status. |
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Oct-28-12 | | Infohunter: <Conrad93: Infohunter must be be confusing the two senses of the term "worth." The fact that someone pays one hundred dollars for a chess teacher does not mean that the teacher is "worth" the price. The fact that he is "worth"that price because someone payed is not arguable.> The confusion lies with you, <Conrad93>. You are confusing *objective* use value (what something might be worth according to some abstract, preconceived standard) with *subjective* use value (what something is worth to a given individual in particular). It is the latter, not the former, whence market prices are derived. People do not make their purchasing choices on the basis of some abstract, preconceived standard; they make them on the basis of their own respective personal preferences and evaluations. As I said before, the essentially synonymous terms "value" and "worth" do NOT exist in a vacuum. "Value" presupposes an evaluator; "worth" presupposes someone judging the thing in question. |
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Oct-28-12
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: Infohunter, I am not discussing economics. |
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Oct-29-12 | | Jim Bartle: I agree with Conrad93. Concepts such as "value" and "worth" and the price of goods and services have nothing to do with economics. (OCF: Sorry, just this once.) |
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: At least you're not one-sided, Jim. Reason is not one way street. |
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: Why are we discussing philosophy on Garcia's page?
To get off topic: he looks sort of like an older Petrosian. Compare the two profiles. |
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Oct-29-12 | | nok: <I might buy a piece of ground for dirt cheap intending to grow food just to support myself and bang! I strike oil. Am I in that case not entitled to the oil profits just because I didn't work hard to get them?> In that case, yes, but that case is against the odds. You have to look at the statistical picture. If oil was routinely found in dirt it would be quite cheaper. |
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: Nok, according to him, oil's price is based simply on what someone pays for it. It's value is not based on its worth and benefit to society. |
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Oct-29-12 | | SimonWebbsTiger: I thought use value and exchange value - the two sides of the commodity in the capitalist mode of production - had been dealt with back in Karl Marx's day ("Das Kapital"). Old "Charlie" went on to discuss the commodity labour power as the source of value, socially necessary labour, the average rate of profit, the origin of economic crises, etc, etc. Only modern day heathens in economic departments work with a theory of prices instead of a labour theory of value. Anyway, this is a player profile.... |
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: Simon, we weren't discussing economics. |
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Oct-29-12
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: This wouldn't qualify as wisdom. It would be considered knowledge. |
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Oct-29-12 | | brankat: Common sense in an uncommon degree is what people call wisdom. <perfidious>
<..off ignore so that we can enjoy the fruits of his immense wisdom.> Also, laughter is beneficial to one's health :-) |
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Oct-29-12 | | Conrad93: What we were discussing involved knowledge, not wisdom. Knowledge tells me the facts, wisdom tells me to stop arguing online. |
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Oct-30-12 | | Infohunter: <OhioChessFan: Please don't feed the troll. Thanks.> Looks as though that ended up being everyone else's cue to come out of the woodwork. |
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Oct-30-12 | | Conrad93: Infohunter, do you know what defines a troll, or has it just became another insult? I'm not trolling. |
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Oct-30-12 | | Infohunter: *I* never said you were a troll, <Conrad>, as you will see if you scroll back through my comments. My latest comment, please note, was an observation on the irony of what took place after <OCF> made his request. You are being needlessly defensive here. |
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Nov-01-12 | | brankat: <conrad93> <I'm not trolling.> You are not "learning" either. Neither are You "educating" others. Nor are You exchanging thoughts/ideas. You have not had one single constructive discussion with anyone ever since you joined the site. So. what exactly are you doing here?
You ARE trolling. |
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Jan-15-21 | | Granny O Doul: A victim of COVID-19: https://www.eltiempo.com/deportes/o... Played him a couple of times; nice guy. So it goes. |
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Jan-15-21 | | vanwely: RIP Gildardo. A real fighter. While A. Zapata will be the greatest Colombian chessplayer, Gildardo was very close. They had a long and sometimes bitter rivalry, but reconciled later in life. |
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Jan-16-21 | | Eastfrisian: Sad, R.I.P. GM Garcia. |
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Jan-16-21
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Mar-09-21 | | morphynoman2: Gildardo Garcia's Masterwork is the game against Walter Browne in Jacksonville, 1990. Isn't that game here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pd... |
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Mar-09-21 | | morphynoman2: I Submit this wonderful game to Chessgames.com. Enjoy it! [Event "USA op"]
[Site "Jacksonville"]
[Date "1990.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Garcia, Gildardo"]
[Black "Browne, Walter S"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B99"]
[PlyCount "55"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.O-O-O Nbd7 10.Be2 b5 11.Bxf6 Nxf6 12.e5 Bb7 13.exf6 Bxf3 14.Bxf3 Bxf6 15.Bxa8 d5 16.Bc6+ Ke7 17.Rhe1 Qxf4+ 18.Kb1 Kd6 19.Bxd5 exd5 20.Nxd5 Qg5 21.Nxf6 Qxf6 22.Nxb5+ Kc5 23.Rd6 Qf5 24.g4 Qf4 25.Red1 Qe4 26.Nc3 Qf4 27.R1d5+ Kc4 28.Rc6+ 1-0 |
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