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Oct-06-06
 | | Domdaniel: challenge p.372
an idea from djmercury + Thorsson:
Thorsson: <djmercury: After 15. Qxd3 Bc6 (most logical) I tried 16. Rad1 and here fritz 8 thinks that if black doesn't play 16. ... d5 white can play 17. f5 with a nice position. However after black d5 17. Bb6 Qmove 18. e5 Nd7 black 19. Be4!? black position is cramped and white can shift his force on the kingside with Qg3/Qh3 - Rf3 - Qh6 and black is struggling to defend his position, since he has not a single piece on the kingside.>
I presume you mean 19.Bd4. And yes I think this is a good idea. Let's say Black plays the logical 19...Qc7, then I like Rf3 straight away, but Qe3 first (intending a sneaky f5/Qh6 at some point) is also a possiblity. Note that Black does have Bf8/Nf8 at his disposal though. Hmm Bf8-g7 +Nf8 seems to hold. Maybe we need to play g4 in here then double on the f-file. There may well be something here if we look hard enough. It's probably over the engines' event horizon. |
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| Oct-06-06 | | twinlark: <Dom> We're getting to the stage where there may be series of relatively forcing moves. I'm wondering how the workshops should cope with that, eg; Honza's line on p373. I'm starting to think that maybe workshops should start concentrating on some entire lines, rather than simply the next move, or maybe even both. What do you reckon? |
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| Oct-06-06 | | JoeWms: <Dom> My turn now for slithering and lurking. Not lent, stolen. I like it. Save it so you can use it again n the spring. I was strolling the main page a little while ago and became confused about who the stupids were and who they were not. Conclusion: The junior god Thor is referring to <all> of us. I'll just hang out here in the forums. Better for my self-esteem. |
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Oct-06-06
| | Domdaniel: Thorsson: Just to post that Bd8 line again in full with my latest, tired and emotional analysis:
15.cxd3 Rc8 16.e5 Nd5 17.Nxd5 exd5 18.Bb6 Qe8 19.Nd4 Bd8 20.Bxd8 Qxd8 21.exd6 Bc6 22.Qe7 Re8 23.Qxd8 Rexd8 24.Rfe1 Rxd6 |
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Oct-06-06
| | Domdaniel: Aha. Forgot to post a diagram, didn't I? Stupid boy. This is where we're at.
He has played 14...Nxd3 to reach this position (White to play):
click for larger viewThe options are 15.cxd3 and 15.Qxd3.
I've already posted a couple of sample lines just above this. |
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Oct-06-06
| | Domdaniel: Here's a rough idea for that strategic or positional forum we've been talking about. First, this will be a long game. With all these engines running, there won't be any tactical traps or sucker punches on either side. Second, we're at move 15, and people are posting long lines of analysis - up to move 25 or 30 - that represent their ideas of best play. Some of these are impressive. But they almost all end in positions where White might have a slight edge, or the game is roughly equal. Rather than post banal positional dictums about the current position, I propose looking down these lines instead, and trying to assess the positions that result. That's where our investigation should focus. Who has the initiative on move 26 in line A? Or, in line B, can we exploit the open C-file? Is a sudden kingside assault a threat or a danger here? Is it a good-knight vs bad-bishop ending, or what? Good Knight, all.
I'll refine this later on Saturday, euro-time. Before the Elista, eh, kick-off... |
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| Oct-07-06 | | monad: <Dom>
Busy doing some honest work?
Rant on my forum (where I can delete it later).
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| Oct-07-06 | | chessmoron: A little off topic
<Domdaniel> Thanks for the visit. You tell me that I don't have any Cronenberg movie but I thought "The Fly" is Cronenberg, isn't it? |
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Oct-07-06
| | Domdaniel: hi <chessmoron>
Off-topic-ness is impossible here.
Thanx for reminding me about The Fly. Seems like I'm the one in an alternative universe... |
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Oct-07-06
| | Domdaniel: More lines from the Challenge page:
Thorsson: <djmercury: Analysis by Rybka
15.cxd3 Bc6 16.Bb6 Qd7 17.Nd4 Rfe8 18.Qf2 e5 19.Nxc6 bxc6 20.f5 c5 21.Qh4 Kg7 22.Rf3 = (0.12) Depth: 20> There are lots of possible 16th moves for White to start, and this analysis is 14-ply deep on a 20-ply search. Do you see the problem? It's <possible> that 17.f5 is superior to Nd4 and the horizon effect is causing the wrong move to be chosen - there's an interesting pawn sac after 17...gxf5 18.Nd4!? fxe4 19.dxe4. <After 19...bxc6> 20.f5 d5 21.d4 looks good for White. There are also several 16th move variants:
16.f5 gxf5 17.exf5 Kh8 18.fxe6 fxe6 19.Nd4 Qd7 20.Nxc6 Qxc6 21.Rac1 Nd5 22.Bh6 but there may be improvements for Black 16.Qf3 d5 17.Nd4 Bc5 18.e5 Nd7 19.Nce2
16.Nd4 d5 17.f5 gxf5 18.Nxc6 bxc6 19.Bb6
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Oct-07-06
| | Domdaniel: LATEST NEWS UPDATE
Topalov beat Kramnik. A small number of chess hooligans and lager louts tried to stage a small riot, but this was dealt with. BOIL (Beelzebub's Own Ignore List) will be used if such behavior persists. Meanwhile, the Nickel game moves slowly. With only two playable moves, and cxd3 well ahead, some people are taking a well-earned rest. Not, however, here. Not in the home of puns, paronomasia and monomania. I've decided to wheel out the big guns. Previously I'd done my analysis on screen, in my head, or on a plug-in board. It's time to set up a real 3-D chessboard now. No more Mr Virtuality. |
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Oct-07-06
 | | OhioChessFan: <Domdaniel> I mentioned on Twinlark's page what you should do for your 1000th post. Be sure to check that out. |
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Oct-07-06
| | Domdaniel: This is my 999th post. I'm off to the Beer page now, at Ohio's suggestion, to celebrate the big 1000. Or the M Magnus, for all you Latinists. My friends - you know who you are - are invited to join in. Actually, so is everybody else... |
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Oct-07-06
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Dom> enjoy your Oktober fest!!! Who do you think will prove to be the "greatest" in history, my Latinist friend? <Magnus Carlsen> or <Pompeus Magnus>? I don't recall reading that young <Carlsen> ever cleared the Mediterranean of Pirates... hmmmm |
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Oct-07-06
| | Domdaniel: Hej, Jess - we're having a party on the Beer page to celebrate my 1000th - please do drop in... there's a link a few posts back I think... |
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| Oct-07-06 | | twinlark: <Dom> you naughty boy. You do know that young Jessie here disapproves of alcohol, don't you? Fancy inviting this sweet young lady to a raucous pub filled with drunken louts singing atrocious beer songs. I leave now on steady legs.
<Om mani padme hum, Om mani padme hum, Om mani padme hum...> |
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| Oct-07-06 | | Chess Classics: <Domdaniel> Congrats on 1000 mate! Remember that 2000 is on the Ale page. By the way, I'm sure I speak for all of us when I thank you for the hours you've put in on the AN game. Cheers! Regards,
CC |
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| Oct-08-06 | | Tomlinsky: Hi Dom, thanks for the message on my forum. I'll plod on as and when at the moment just messing around with a few ideas. I'm not sure the idea can actually owrk to be honest as it is easier to start when we are on the move but invariably voting is effectively over within a few hours. Otherwise it leads to tons of wasted analysis. Like now for instance. There's no point starting analysis until we know what Arno has replied to cxd out of the few alternatives. Still getting my head around it but have taken onboard what you have said. Cheers. |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: Thanks to everyone who attended my ten-page party on the Beer page. And to <twinlark> and <JoeWms> for keeping the billion-dollar bash going after I'd passed out... At current rates, my 2000th kibitz - and a date on the Ale page as tradition doth decree - can't be far off. |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: An occasional series of malapropisms.
Me: matchplay has unique stresses...
JANGIMM: You contribute to the stress too much.
<Hmm. Maybe I do, at that....> |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: Hi, <Jessica>. Don't know how young Carlsen would react to being stabbed on the beach by a bunch of slaves and knaves, like old Pompey. But sheet happens. As somebody else put it: One never know, do one? |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: NEWS UPDATE
And Kramnik beat Topalov right back.
The match is now either tied, or it isn't.
Let the trolling begin. Wheel out your malaprops. Always mangle the syntax, and don't forget to SHOUT when you're losing. |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: **********
Marker Diagram
We have played 15.cxd3 to reach this position (Black to play):
click for larger view |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: Thorsson, Gambler Extraordinaire, gives us this new line: I have e5 as the best line at the moment. Perhaps I should post a line here for people to critique: if they like it then maybe we will get a groundswell going for it - and e5 must be seen as equally agressive as f5, no? 15...Rc8 16.e5 Nd5 17.Nxd5 exd5 18.Bb6 Qe8 19.Nd4 (yeah, the same old themes come up in line after line - this is good!!) 19...dxe5 20.fxe5 Bb4 21.Qe3 and White has a clear advantage. I'm not sure how large, but space, pawn structure, piece position, all favour White. |
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Oct-08-06
| | Domdaniel: And I'm outta here.
Just play among yourselves for a while, OK? |
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