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| Mar-15-10 | | kormier: Hank Williams Thank God
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| Mar-15-10 | | kormier: THE HOLLIES - He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother
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| Mar-15-10 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Elvis...taxi's are better...than buses.
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Mar-15-10
 | | OhioChessFan: <TCE> here's the answers to your questions off the top of my head. 1. Jacob is Joseph's father. Luke lists Mary's ancestry. 2. I think 4000 is the correct number and that the 40,000 is simply scribal error. 3. Genesis 2 is a recap of the Creation week listed in Chapter 1, and is not as chronologically systematic. 4. Judas hung himself, and at some point, probably during the time of the earthquake at Jesus' death, his dead body fell off the tree he was hanging on. 5. I am not sure on that one. "Heaven" is also used to describe "the sky" and I lean toward that being where Elijah went. 6. The KJV has "Brought up for" and not "borne". In any event, if Michal had NO MORE children after David's pronouncement, I think that would fit fine. 7. I think I understand how one might become a fool answering a fool, and likewise in different circumstances answering a fool to show them they are wrong. 8. I can't answer off the top of my head so I'll have a look. 9. I'm not sure the problem in #9.
10. I have looked at this before and have forgotten which of the two I think is correct. I think scribal error is involved. 11. Shallum and Jehoahaz are the same person.
12. 1 Cor. 4:5 is referencing judgment in the sense of final judgment. Jesus is going to do that. In the meantime, a spiritual man needs to make many kinds of judgments. |
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Mar-15-10
 | | OhioChessFan: <chancho> I don't think the Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of Jesus. I am skeptical it's anything at all to get excited about. |
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Mar-15-10
 | | OhioChessFan: 8. John 19:2 is during the trial of Jesus. There they put a purple robe on him. Matthew 27:28 is after the trial, wherein they stripped him and then put the scarlet robe on him. |
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Mar-15-10
 | | chancho: <OCF> I'm not trying to convince anyone of whether the shroud is authentic or not. I found the show interesting, and seeing some of these scientists talking about it, specially regarding the 3 D imaging was intriguing. |
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Mar-15-10
 | | OhioChessFan: I did once see a TV show that gave a graphic of the 3 D ness of the Shroud. I don't know what I think it is. |
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| Mar-16-10 | | kormier: <<OhioChessFan>> St-John: 19 40, St John: 20 5-7; yes he raised ...and raised(assention) again for his body would glory for.....tks |
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| Mar-16-10 | | Travis Bickle: (an excerpt of an entire comment.)
OhioChessFan: <OCF: I lean toward the view that a person entering heaven must have the righteousness of God. And a being that righteous would look upon sin with such revulsion they would be just like God and accept that nothing unrighteous can enter heaven.<<whatthefat: Is that how you look upon those of other faiths and atheists?>> No. I leave that to God. I do have a problem with the eternal punishment thing, and I have discussed that with others. It's a tough topic all the way around.> First of all I am not worthy to respond to this discussion because of my human weaknesses, sinful ways and love of this world. I believe The Apostle Paul said you have to be dead in this life to live in the next. In other words not enjoy all of lifes pleasures but rather turn a blind eye to them and serve God and try to do His Will. I am working on that. That said I would like to contribute to the discussion on this page to things I know about God and The Bible. Hell is spiritual separation from God in the next life. To comprehend the next life for a human being of a finite mind trying to understand a God of an infinite mind is not humanly possible. It is like a man leaving this world of 3 dimensions and crossing the thresh hold of the 4th dimension, impossible to understand now. Trust in a loving redeeming God who has given His only Son Jesus Christ (guiltless), sacrificed on the cross for all sins committed and all to be committed until the end of the world, for those who would believe in Jesus Christ as God and his Gift of his Sacrifice (death) on the cross as a Gift of Eternal Salvation. There are two deaths and Jesus Christ conquered both. The first death is physical death, when a person dies on earth. The second death is spiritual death, and this is after a man dies from the physical world and after entering the spiritual world, if he has not accepted Jesus Christ as his God and Holy Savior then he would perish in the second death or spiritual death and be sent to hell. When Jesus Christ arose from the dead and Ascended into Heaven he conquered those deaths forever, for those who accept Him in their hearts and minds, that Jesus Christ is God and The Savior of the world. The way I have come to understand God and Jesus Christ plus The Holy Spirit = The Holy Trinity or The Godhead is that all three parts of God are interconnected. As Jesus was in Heaven before the earth was created by God. The Lord God sent himself down to earth as flesh = Jesus Christ = (The New Testament). Because Gods laws (The Commandments did not work), He sent down Jesus Christ in human flesh so that God could experience fear, temptation, pain, the human condition, and then go through that life sinless, and then be sacrificed for all of mankind on the cross. Jesus set the precedent for man. But man can only be blameless if he accepts Jesus Christ as God and his Savior. One of the first things the Bible says is that God is Love. The Bible or Gods open letter to mankind wasn't written by man alone. Any person who authored The Bible had The Holy Spirit of God in him and was literally just transferring Gods words to man. That is why The Bible warns about anyone altering the words of God as a very serious offence to God. |
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| Mar-16-10 | | The Chess Express: <<<<<Travis Bickle>>>> First of all I am not worthy to respond to this discussion because of my human weaknesses, sinful ways and love of this world. I believe The Apostle Paul said you have to be dead in this life to live in the next. In other words not enjoy all of lifes pleasures but rather turn a blind eye to them and serve God and try to do His Will. I am working on that.> John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Matt 10:24-25 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his Lord. It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his Lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. Rise up you holy Son of God you! Rise up I say! |
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| Mar-16-10 | | Travis Bickle: <The Chess Express> First of all I don't think you can analyze the writings of The Bible or sayings Of Jesus Christ as you would a comic book. The Bible and God are as complex as physics
or more so. I know you hold a high regard and respect for science but dimiss Christianity as a joke. |
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| Mar-16-10 | | The Chess Express: <Travis Bickle> Too many assumptions ;) |
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| Mar-16-10 | | kormier: i'm born-again and am saved(and in a sure place) the Shield of faith in the invincibility Holy(Santity) of God....(Heaven).....tks |
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| Mar-16-10 | | kormier: hi, have a good day guys.....tks |
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| Mar-16-10 | | kormier: ok me and my uncle, we've started his car...it,s a chevrolet caprice/classic brougham 1985 and now a lunch for me....lol.....tks |
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Mar-17-10
 | | OhioChessFan: The Amazing 150 Million Year Old Squid Ink:
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| Mar-17-10 | | kormier: hi <<OhioChessFan>> it would be a good lunch, to the many squid eaters, is or was it's ink green? <<Happy St-Patrick> to all...at the very least he had zele to tell the message of good-news of the Kingdom, the Mountain of Isaia 2:2-5>; the conversion of the nations....lol.....tks |
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Mar-17-10
 | | OhioChessFan: I have been thinking about the visible starlight point. I went back and looked at Genesis 1 again. Here's what I found: Gen. 1:14-18 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good. I think it's clear that one purpose of the stars was to provide light for men on the earth. If God has told us He created stars, and those for the purpose of being seen by men, how is that possibly an act of deception? |
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| Mar-17-10 | | kormier: the deceiver ain't God, but a fallen(failled) archangel. <Love is God, how Holy is his Light: When we've been there 10,000 years, bright shining as the sun, we'll have no less days to sing's God's praise, than when we've first begun....his Light is soft, sweet and and serene>.....tks |
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Mar-18-10
 | | OhioChessFan: Soft tissue in dinosaaur fossils.
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Outquote: <The problem is that scientists who have pledged their allegiance to the evolutionary theory are unwilling to accept that fresh soft tissue or permineralized (unfossilized) dinosaur bones could exist. > |
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| Mar-18-10 | | playground player: <Ohio Chess Fan> A few years ago I exchanged some emails with the scientist who discovered and published the T-rex soft tissue: and she was mighty sure that that was exactly what it was. Now her colleagues, to protect Darwinism, have been trying to discredit her, claiming she mistook ordinary contaminant bacteria (the kind that makes bathtub rings) for dinosaur soft tissue. Hey, guys, if you don't like her science, fine--hash it out. But don't try to smear her as an incompetent idiot. |
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| Mar-18-10 | | YouRang: <OhioChessFan><playground player> Re: <Soft tissue in dinosaaur fossils. > If evolutionists seek to discredit her (paleontologist Mary Schweitzer) for her findings just because it seems to contradict their preconceived ideas about evolution and an old universe, then they are wrong. Likewise, if creationists leap to conclusions about her work just because it seems to support their preconceived ideas about creation and young universe, they too are wrong. It fails to be legitimate science whenever one starts "rooting for" a conclusion that serves preconceived objectives, rather than letting the observations speak for themselves. At the following link, Schweitzer answers some questions herself. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/scienc... One particular question/answer relevant to this discussion: <Q: Many creationists claim that the Earth is much younger than the evolutionists claim. Is there any possibility that your discoveries should make experts on both sides of the argument reevaluate the methods of established dating used in the field?
Carl Baker, Billings, Montana
A: Actually, my work doesn't say anything at all about the age of the Earth. As a scientist I can only speak to the data that exist. Having reviewed a great deal of data from many different disciplines, I see no reason at all to doubt the general scientific consensus that the Earth is about five or six billion years old. We deal with testable hypotheses in science, and many of the arguments made for a young Earth are not testable, nor is there any valid data to support a young Earth that stands up to peer review or scientific scrutiny. However, the fields of geology, nuclear physics, astronomy, paleontology, genetics, and evolutionary biology all speak to an ancient Earth. Our discoveries may make people reevaluate the longevity of molecules and the presumed pathways of molecular degradation, but they do not really deal at all with the age of the Earth.> Her answer is spot on. she understands that science is about <testable hypotheses>. She understands that one doesn't trash theories developed over hundreds of years across several branches of science just to leap to a particular conclusion that one might *want* believe. BTW, it is quite evident that she is a committed Christian herself, which I should think disputes the assumption that evolutionists are inherently anti-Bible. In this case, science must deal with her findings. First they must carefully confirm that it is what they think, then they must figure out what it says about current theory. Then they must learn from it and possibly revise some theories. This is what science does. But it doesn't help the cause of science when special interests are hovering about, creating pressure to reach the conclusion they seek, and ready to attack if not. Let science do its work, and let religion do its work. From what I know of the Bible, Christians should have LOTS better things to do than harass scientists. |
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| Mar-18-10 | | YouRang: <I think it's clear that one purpose of the stars was to provide light for men on the earth. If God has told us He created stars, and those for the purpose of being seen by men, how is that possibly an act of deception?> It's only a deception if one is forced to accept the premise that God created the universe within just the past 10,000 years. That's because the visibility of the stars, the known distance from the stars, the known speed of light, and simple calculations leads one to logically to the false conclusion that the universe is much older. Even more deceptive would is that the light from these stars contain information about specific events (e.g. exploding stars). For those events to be visible on earth today, they must have happened long before those stars were even created. In other words, God deliberately embedded information in starlight to give the impression that events happened that couldn't have really happened. One can only wonder why. But if one simply lets go of the simplistic interpretation of Genesis that insists on a young universe, then there is no deception at all. In that case, the impressions that God gives us in the starlight speak the truth! :-) |
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Mar-18-10
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: If dinosaurs really existed only a few thousand years ago, that would make them coeval with mammoths, no? Why is it, then, that reasonably well-preserved mammoths outnumber reasonably well-preserved dinosaurs loads to zero? (The answer isn't "mammoths had ice to preserve them" - many species of dinosaur lived in Siberia, Alaska, etc.) |
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