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______________ Moves Prediction Contest

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==4 Different Scoring Methods==

Standard Moves Ranker (1st place-Over[3pts], 1st place-Under [7pts], Exact [10pts])

Bonus Ranker (3rd place-Over[1pts],2nd place-Over[2pts],3rd place-Under [5pts], 2nd place-Under [6pts]

Standard Moves/Bonus Ranker [Add all to together]

1st place Ranker [how many 1st place you have in Standard Moves Ranker]

For example:

<Note: Participants 3, 4, and 5 are predicated on nobody scoring an exact as Participant 2 did. If someone hits an exact, the closest score under and over will score the points for second place.>

Actual Game: [player]-[player] 0-1 45

Participant 1: [player]-[player] 1/2 45
Participant 2: [player]-[player] 0-1 45
Participant 3: [player]-[player] 0-1 44
Participant 4: [player]-[player] 0-1 43
Participant 5: [player]-[player] 0-1 46

Participant 1: No points even though 45 is correct. Results must be correct. If Result is wrong and moves # is correct...you get no points whatsoever

Participant 2: 10 pts rewarded for correct Result/moves #

Participant 3: 7 pts rewarded for closest under (1st-Under) to 45 moves

Participant 4: 6 pts rewarded for the 2nd closest under (2nd-Under) to 45 moves.

Participant 5: 3 pts rewarded closest OVER(1st-OVER) to 45 moves.

Again, the description of Participant 3, 4, and 5 are based on there being no exact prediction as made by Participant 2.

<IF> there is an exact or an under closest, the highest scoring over participant will be 2nd over. The second closest over will be 3rd over. The <ONLY> time there will be a first over is if there is no exact or under winner.

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Moves Prediction Contest

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< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 300 OF 849 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jul-14-12  twinlark: Round 3

Leko - Gustafsson 1/2 45
Caruana - Fridman 1-0 31
Meier - Ponomariov 0-1 67
Karjakin - Naiditsch 1/2 41
Kramnik - Bartel 1-0 42

Jul-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Round 3 : Sun Jul 15

Leko - Gustafsson 1/2-1/2 35
Caruana - Fridman 1/2-1/2 35
Meier - Ponomariov 1/2-1/2 35
Karjakin - Naiditsch 1/2-1/2 35
Kramnik - Bartel 1-0 35

Jul-14-12  chessmoron: ♔ Tata 2012: <Round 2> Results ♔

<Bartel-Karjakin, 0-1 in 34 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['PinnedPiece', '0-1', '32']]
2nd Under, 6 points: [['Ragh', '0-1', '28']]
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['chessmoron', '0-1', '41']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: [['wordfunph', '0-1', '45'], ['bubuli55', '0-1', '45']]

===

<Fridman-Leko, 1/2-1/2 in 27 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: [['Ragh', '1/2-1/2', '28']]
2nd Over, 2 points: [['Robin01', '1/2-1/2', '32'], ['wordfunph', '1/2-1/2', '32']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '33']]

===

<Gustafsson-Kramnik, 0-1 in 27 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: [['SloVice', '0-1', '39']]
2nd Over, 2 points: [['OhioChessFan', '0-1', '41']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['bubuli55', '0-1', '45'], ['wordfunph', '0-1', '45'], ['Robin01', '0-1', '45']]

===

<Naiditsch-Meier, 1/2-1/2 in 53 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '45']]
2nd Under, 6 points: [['Robin01', '1/2-1/2', '37']]
3rd Under, 5 points: [['PinnedPiece', '1/2-1/2', '35'], ['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '35']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Ponomariov-Caruana, 1-0 in 36 moves.>--No one got it.

Jul-14-12  WinKing: <Bartel-Karjakin, 0-1 in 34 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['PinnedPiece', '0-1', '32']]
2nd Under, 6 points: [['Ragh', '0-1', '28']]
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['chessmoron', '0-1', '41']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: [['wordfunph', '0-1', '45'], ['bubuli55', '0-1', '45']]

<WinKing> has: Bartel - Karjakin 0-1 43

*****************

<Gustafsson-Kramnik, 0-1 in 27 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: []
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: [['SloVice', '0-1', '39']]
2nd Over, 2 points: [['OhioChessFan', '0-1', '41']]

3rd Over, 1 point1: [['bubuli55', '0-1', '45'], ['wordfunph', '0-1', '45'], ['Robin01', '0-1', '45']]

<WinKing> has: Gustafsson - Kramnik 0-1 35

Jul-14-12  chessmoron: Round 2 Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to:

None

Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 8 points <Robin01>

Results:

Moves Ranker - Through <Round 2>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

21, PinnedPiece, 0, 3, 0
10, SloVice, 0, 0, 1
7, twinlark, 0, 1, 0
7, Robin01, 0, 1, 0
7, chessmoron, 0, 1, 0
3, WinKing, 1, 0, 0
3, Ragh, 1, 0, 0
0, bubuli55, 0, 0, 0
0, lostemperor, 0, 0, 0
0, OhioChessFan, 0, 0, 0
0, Penguincw, 0, 0, 0
0, wordfunph, 0, 0, 0

===

Bonus Ranker - Through <Round 2>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

18, bubuli55, 1, 0, 1, 2
14, Robin01, 1, 1, 1, 1
11, twinlark, 0, 0, 1, 1
10, Penguincw, 0, 0, 2, 0
9, WinKing, 1, 1, 0, 1
6, PinnedPiece, 1, 0, 1, 0
6, Ragh, 0, 0, 0, 1
6, SloVice, 0, 3, 0, 0
5, Golden Executive, 0, 0, 1, 0
3, chessmoron, 1, 1, 0, 0
2, lostemperor, 0, 1, 0, 0
2, OhioChessFan, 2, 0, 0, 0
2, wordfunph, 0, 1, 0, 0

===

Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <Round 2>

Score, UserID

27, PinnedPiece
21, Robin01
18, bubuli55
18, twinlark
16, SloVice
12, WinKing
10, chessmoron
10, Penguincw
9, Ragh
5, Golden Executive
2, lostemperor
2, OhioChessFan
2, wordfunph
===

Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <Round 2>

Score,UserID

3, PinnedPiece
1, chessmoron
1, Ragh
1, Robin01
1, SloVice
1, twinlark
1, WinKing
0, bubuli55
0, lostemperor
0, OhioChessFan
0, Penguincw
0, wordfunph

Jul-15-12  chessmoron: Leko - Gustafsson 1/2 37
Caruana - Fridman 1/2 43
Meier - Ponomariov 1/2 36
Karjakin - Naiditsch 1/2 41
Kramnik - Bartel 1-0 45
Jul-15-12  Golden Executive: Round 3

Leko - Gustafsson 1-0 30
Caruana - Fridman 1-0 33
Meier - Ponomariov 1/2 29
Karjakin - Naiditsch 1/2 35
Kramnik - Bartel 1-0 29

Jul-15-12
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  OhioChessFan: Leko - Gustafsson 1/2 41
Caruana - Fridman 1/2 35
Meier - Ponomariov 1/2 21
Karjakin - Naiditsch 1/2 36
Kramnik - Bartel 1-0 33
Jul-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: My head is spinning after trying to review the scoring, but I <think> it's correct. I am happily surprised everyone is on the board with points after only 2 rounds. It's not all that hard to get shut out in this contest.
Jul-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Leko - Gustafsson 1-0 51
Caruana - Fridman 1-0 52
Meier - Ponomariov 1/2 40
Karjakin - Naiditsch 1-0 50
Kramnik - Bartel 1-0 42
Jul-15-12  bubuli55: Just seeking clarification :)

scored 19 points in 1st round, scored 2 points in 2nd round. But my total dropped to 18 :)

was I penalized for cutting off wordfunph? Ahehe:)

thanks for your effort and patience < OCF and chessmoron >

Jul-15-12  lost in space: Hi <Ohio>, will be back in a week from vacation (without web-access). I guess this is too late, or?
Jul-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: I think <now> wouldn't be too late. We've had winners score 90% of their points in 3 rounds. You could go ahead and post the whole tournament, as some have done.
Jul-15-12  bubuli55: == Round 4 : Mon Jul 16
Gustafsson - Bartel 1/2-1/2 30
Naiditsch - Kramnik 0-1 45
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2-1/2 35
Fridman - Meier 1/2-1/2 45
Leko - Caruana 1/2-1/2 45

Good luck! :)

Jul-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: 4 of 5 decisive games today, with a moves average over 50 per game, which ought to shake up the standings.

Leko beat Gustafsson in 45 moves. Pono won with Black against Meier in 52 moves. Kramnik beat Bartel in 50 moves. And Caruana won against Fridman in 52,

Karjakin/Naiditsch was a 59 move draw.

6 rounds to go.

Jul-15-12  SloVice: == Round 4 : Mon Jul 16
Gustafsson - Bartel 1-0 39
Naiditsch - Kramnik 1/2 33
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2 33
Fridman - Meier 1-0 39
Leko - Caruana 0-1 43

== Round 5 : Tue Jul 17
Caruana - Gustafsson 1-0 39
Meier - Leko 1/2 33
Karjakin - Fridman 1-0 39
Kramnik - Ponomariov 1-0 39
Bartel - Naiditsch 1/2 33

== Round 6 : Thu Jul 19
Gustafsson - Naiditsch 1/2 33
Ponomariov - Bartel 1-0 39
Fridman - Kramnik 0-1 45
Leko - Karjakin 1-0 39
Caruana - Meier 1-0 39

== Round 7 : Fri Jul 20
Meier - Gustafsson 1/2 33
Karjakin - Caruana 0-1 45
Kramnik - Leko 1-0 39
Bartel - Fridman 0-1 45
Naiditsch - Ponomariov 1/2 33

== Round 8 : Sat Jul 21
Gustafsson - Ponomariov 1-0 39
Fridman - Naiditsch 0-1 45
Leko - Bartel 1-0 39
Caruana - Kramnik 1/2 33
Meier - Karjakin 1-0 39

== Round 9 : Sun Jul 22
Karjakin - Gustafsson 1-0 39
Kramnik - Meier 1-0 39
Bartel - Caruana 0-1 45
Naiditsch - Leko 1/2 33
Ponomariov - Fridman 1-0 39

Jul-15-12  chessmoron: <bubuli55> You lost a point after the fix on <Fridman-Gustafsson> from Round 1 and didn't gain any points from Round 2 after the fix.
Jul-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: == Round 4 : Mon Jul 16
Gustafsson - Bartel 1/2-1/2 25
Naiditsch - Kramnik 1/2-1/2 35
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2-1/2 35
Fridman - Meier 1/2-1/2 25
Leko - Caruana 1/2-1/2 30

== Round 5 : Tue Jul 17
Caruana - Gustafsson 1-0 35
Meier - Leko 1/2-1/2 40
Karjakin - Fridman 1/2-1/2 40
Kramnik - Ponomariov 1-0 40
Bartel - Naiditsch 1/2-1/2 25

Jul-15-12  chessmoron: {K] Tata 2012: <Round 3> Results ♔

<Caruana-Fridman, 1-0 in 52 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['lostemperor', '1-0', '52']]
Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: [['WinKing', '1-0', '45'], ['bubuli55', '1-0', '45']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['wordfunph', '1-0', '42']]
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Karjakin-Naiditsch, 1/2-1/2 in 59 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['chessmoron', '1/2-1/2', '41'], ['twinlark', '1/2-1/2', '41']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['OhioChessFan', '1/2-1/2', '36']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['Golden Executive', '1/2-1/2', '35'], ['Penguincw', '1/2-1/2', '35']]

Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Kramnik-Bartel, 1-0 in 50 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['chessmoron', '1-0', '45'], ['WinKing', '1-0', '45']]

2nd Under, 6 points: [['lostemperor', '1-0', '42'], ['wordfunph', '1-0', '42'], ['twinlark', '1-0', '42']]

3rd Under, 5 points: [['bubuli55', '1-0', '40']]
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: []
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Leko-Gustafsson, 1-0 in 45 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: [['WinKing', '1-0', '45'], ['bubuli55', '1-0', '45']]

Under, 7 points: []
2nd Under, 6 points: [['wordfunph', '1-0', '42']]
3rd Under, 5 points: [['PinnedPiece', '1-0', '36']]
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['lostemperor', '1-0', '51']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

===

<Meier-Ponomariov, 0-1 in 52 moves.>

Exact, 10 points: []
Under, 7 points: [['Robin01', '0-1', '47']]
2nd Under, 6 points: [['PinnedPiece', '0-1', '36']]
3rd Under, 5 points: []
Over, 3 points: []
2nd Over, 2 points: [['twinlark', '0-1', '67']]
3rd Over, 1 point1: []

Jul-15-12  chessmoron: Round 3 Summary:

Perfect # moves predictions for this round goes to:

<WinKing> <bubuli55> and <lostemperor>

Highest scores in the Bonus Ranker: 17 points <wordfunph>

Results:

Moves Ranker - Through <Round 3>

Score, UserID, Over, Under, Exact

21, chessmoron, 0, 3, 0
21, PinnedPiece, 0, 3, 0
20, WinKing, 1, 1, 1
14, Robin01, 0, 2, 0
14, twinlark, 0, 2, 0
10, bubuli55, 0, 0, 1
10, lostemperor, 0, 0, 1
10, SloVice, 0, 0, 1
3, Ragh, 1, 0, 0
0, OhioChessFan, 0, 0, 0
0, Penguincw, 0, 0, 0
0, wordfunph, 0, 0, 0

===

Bonus Ranker - Through <Round 3>

Score, UserID, 3-Over, 2-Over, 3-Under, 2-Under

29, bubuli55, 1, 0, 2, 3
19, twinlark, 0, 1, 1, 2
19, wordfunph, 0, 1, 1, 2
17, PinnedPiece, 1, 0, 2, 1
15, Penguincw, 0, 0, 3, 0
15, WinKing, 1, 1, 0, 2
14, Robin01, 1, 1, 1, 1
10, Golden Executive, 0, 0, 2, 0
10, lostemperor, 0, 2, 0, 1
8, OhioChessFan, 2, 0, 0, 1
6, Ragh, 0, 0, 0, 1
6, SloVice, 0, 3, 0, 0
3, chessmoron, 1, 1, 0, 0

===

Moves+Bonus Ranker - Through <Round 3>

Score, UserID

39, bubuli55
38, PinnedPiece
35, WinKing
33, twinlark
28, Robin01
24, chessmoron
20, lostemperor
19, wordfunph
16, SloVice
15, Penguincw
10, Golden Executive
9, Ragh
8, OhioChessFan

===

Moves Ranker (# of 1st place UNDER/OVER) - Through <Round 3>

Score,UserID

3, chessmoron
3, PinnedPiece
3, WinKing
2, Robin01
2, twinlark
1, bubuli55
1, lostemperor
1, Ragh
1, SloVice
0, OhioChessFan
0, Penguincw
0, wordfunph

Jul-15-12  wordfunph: Round 4 : Mon Jul 16

Gustafsson - Bartel 1/2 35
Naiditsch - Kramnik 1/2 47
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2 34
Fridman - Meier 1/2 47
Leko - Caruana 1/2 37

Jul-15-12  PinnedPiece: == Round 4 : Mon Jul 16
Gustafsson - Bartel 1/2 36
Naiditsch - Kramnik 1/2 34
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2 36
Fridman - Meier 1/2 38
Leko - Caruana 0-1 44

== Round 5 : Tue Jul 17
Caruana - Gustafsson 1-0 32
Meier - Leko 1/2 34
Karjakin - Fridman 1-0 38
Kramnik - Ponomariov 1/2 32
Bartel - Naiditsch 1/2 34

== Round 6 : Thu Jul 19
Gustafsson - Naiditsch 1/2 34
Ponomariov - Bartel 1-0 34
Fridman - Kramnik 1/2 35
Leko - Karjakin 1/2 34
Caruana - Meier 1/2 45

.

Jul-15-12  twinlark: Round 4

Gustafsson - Bartel 0-1 47
Naiditsch - Kramnik 0-1 55
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2 31
Fridman - Meier 1/2 49
Leko - Caruana 1/2 66

Jul-16-12  bubuli55: < Jul-15-12    chessmoron: <bubuli55> You lost a point after the fix on <Fridman-Gustafsson> from Round 1 and didn't gain any points from Round 2 after the fix.>

oh ok thx :)

Jul-16-12  chessmoron: Gustafsson - Bartel 1/2 33
Naiditsch - Kramnik 1/2 35
Ponomariov - Karjakin 1/2 41
Fridman - Meier 1/2 36
Leko - Caruana 1/2 35
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