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Mar-05-18 | | prn: The game Hermann von Gottschall vs Siegbert Tarrasch (Von Gottschall vs Tarrasch, 1888 ) appears to show a couple of serious bugs in Olga. Aside from ending after move 42, Olga shows "Three time repetition claimable" beginning at move 17, but Olga continues to ssy that for the **entire rest of the game.** I imagine that there are rules subtleties that I am unaware of, but I don't think that Gottschall could have claimed a draw from three-time repetition on move 100, or even on move 42. But Olga continues to say that it is claimable. |
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Mar-05-18
 | | chessgames.com: That's a known issue, see http://github.com/jhlywa/chess.js/i.... Until they fix chess.js the only workaround we could do is make it not say anything whatsoever about if a three time draw is claimable. But the feature is somewhat useful even while broken. |
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Apr-03-18
 | | chessgames.com: Update:
We've abandoned the "F" key shortcut to "Flip" the board; from now on it is the "I" key to "Invert" the board. (Done in order to not interfere with important built-in browser features.) The help file (as well as the random "tips") have been modified to reflect this. |
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May-11-19 | | Boomie: A couple of suggestions:
1. Add a copy position function. This is important for analytical notes. Notice that Deluxe used a right key menu to select various functions. Perhaps that could be used. 2. Allow more than one variation. Ideally embed the variations in the notation. |
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May-12-19
 | | Annie K.: <Boomie> have you tried clicking the Settings link on the right under every game, with the cogwheel icon? It has a big button that says "Copy FEN"...
Possibly adding the function to the settings options line may not be the ideal location for it, but it does exist. |
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May-12-19 | | Boomie: <Annie K.: <Boomie> have you tried clicking the Settings link...> Thanks.
Final whine is the notation has to go to the side of the board, not below. In long games, the board and notation does not all fit on one page. I will crawl back into the woodwork now. |
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Jun-10-19 | | farticchio: I can't anymore manipulate the piece
Thanks for help |
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Jun-10-19
 | | Stonehenge: For some reason Olga doesn't read completely legal moves like 20. Nce2 here: Tal vs R Seltzer, 1988 |
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Jun-10-19
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Henge>
I know something about this issue. Ok see this score here? <1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bg5 e6 7.f4 Be7 8.Qf3 Qc7 9.O-O-O h6 10.Bh4 Nbd7 11.Be2 g5 12.fxg5 Ne5 13.Qg3 Rg8 14.gxf6 Rxg3 15.hxg3 Bf8 16.Nf3 Ng4 17.Rd2 b5 18.Nd4 Ne5 19.Bh5 b4 20 Nce2 Qa5 21.Nb3 Qxa2 22.Rd4 a5 23.Rhd1 a4 24.Nc5 Nc4 25.Rxc4 Qxc4 26.Nd3 a3 27.b3 Qb5 28.Bf3 Qa5 29.Kb1 a2+ 30.Ka1 Ba6 31.g4 Bxd3 32. Rxd3 Qe5+ 33.Nd4 Qc5 34.Be1 e5 35.Nf5 Qxc2 36.Rd1 Ra3 37.Ne3 Qc5 38. Nd5 Rxb3 39.Be2 Qc2> Can you see the error on move 20?
I didn't notice the error until I copied and pasted this text into my chess engine. My engine will allow the imported game score to play through (unlike Olga), but it will show any irregularities or mistakes onscreen. So on my engine right now it shows this sequence: <20.Bh5 b4 20 20.Nce2> Now the first "20" on my chess engine readout is in a different color- the "mistake color." Now you can also easily spot the actual mistake. The period after move 20 in the original score is missing the period mark- It should be "20.Nce2". So my Engine shows the sequence <19.Bh5 b4 20 20.Nce2> like that on the screen. Now here is the most important part. My chess engine will not only show these errors on my screen, it will also autocorrect them. So after I take the imported score and paste it into my engine, then copy/paste it back from my engine as a PGN file on to a word file, the PGN file will come out ERROR FREE. That is, the period mark after "20" has been fixed. It is now there in the processed PGN. So now on my word file, the sequence looks like this <19.Bh5 b4 20.Nce2>. Fixed. My engine will fix many, many errors this way- small errors, but these are precisely the errors that jam up Olga. The "Upload Utility" code will reject gross errors in pgn scores, but the Upload Utility will publish pgn scores with minor errors. Some of these "minor" errors will freeze Olga at the point of error. The published pgn, with the minor error, still exists in the "show game" function. It just won't play on Olga. So it is super important for everyone to first copy the pgn they want to fix into their chess engine, and then COPY THE SCORE FROM ENGINE TO TEXT FILE, before submitting the pgn to the Upload Utility. The text file will be "clean" now (repaired) and Olga will play it fine. I found all this out the hard way. Harder for <Annie> than me. <Annie> does more than enough work around here without me saddling her with extra work. <Annie> did all this cleanup work for dozens of "slightly" mistaken game scores that the Upload Utility published, but that Olga would not play, for the reasons I have detailed above. |
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Jun-10-19
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
I am talking about the score from <henge's> example game:Tal vs R Seltzer, 1988 |
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Jun-10-19
 | | Stonehenge: I didn't notice there was a period missing (you can click on <view> beneath the game score). Olga indeed doesn't recognize mistakes in the game score see e.g. Miles vs S Webb, 1975. |
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Jun-10-19
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Stoned> <I didn't notice there was a period missing (you can click on <view> beneath the game score).> I didn't notice it either, and I looked carefully at it a few times before putting it in to my chess engine. We all need to
1. Enter our pgns into a chess engine.
2. Copy paste the pgn from the chess engine into a text file. 3. Copy from text file into the PGN upload utility. My engine is ancient and won't copy/paste a pgn directly into a kibbutz box, so I copy to a text file and then from text file into the box. Some will be able to copy/paste directly from engine to box- in this case the pgn upload utility box. <Your engine will actually repair the pgn but you need to copy/paste the repaired pgn from engine to upload utility box>. If you don't do this, if your pgn submission has minor error(s) then Olga may well choke on them. This is going to keep happening until we all clean our pgn submissions with our chess engines before submitting games. I wish the upload utility software might be tweaked to reject all minor pgn error submissions at point of entry? Better to not have a published score than one that won't play through on the viewer. <Hedge Clippers> Look at this games collection here. This is how I found out how big a mess I had been strewing all over the site- all fixed (by Annie's hard work) now, but I wasn't even aware it was happening until <Chessdreamer> alerted me: Game Collection: Olga chokes on I think there are many more broken scores crapping up our website than those captured by <Chessdreamer> eh. |
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Jun-10-19
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Hedge row Fence> Thank goodness I think <Annie> is already well on this case. At any rate she certainly reads our posts in this forum and on the Biographer Bistro. She has already repaired the error on Miles vs S Webb, 1975 This is the correct final position, now reached by Olga on playback, right? After last move 64.Re6+
 click for larger view |
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Jun-10-19
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Hedgehog>
More good news- <Chessdreamer> has not only compiled this list, I notice also that he is keeping it updated. All of my submissions that <Annie> fixed are now absent from his collection. In addition, he has now divided his collection up into sub categories that tell the exact nature of which "minor error" is causing a problem. Game Collection: Olga chokes on |
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Jun-11-19 | | Captain Hindsight: My theory is
people who design coffee makers don't drink coffee ... and people who design Teslas don't fear fire. |
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Apr-20-20 | | stoy: I do not see any way to describe a problem other than by a kibitz. I use google chrome with windows. A few days ago I started or renewed an antivirus software. Now when I replay a game the pieces visibly move in non-direct paths from their initial square to their destination square. The process is fast but distracting. After 1 e4 the move 1..e5 shows the black pawn on e7 move to e3 then settle on e5 . Subsequent moves are bizarre but the piece does arrive on the proper square after a roundabout journey. Any ideas??
richarddstoy@gmail.com |
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Apr-20-20
 | | Annie K.: <stoy> the Olga viewer currently has a glitch - this has nothing to do with your antivirus. If you want a temporary relief from the distractions, please switch to the pgn4web viewer for now, but we are working on Olga and should have it fixed soon. We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for the detailed bug report. |
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Aug-31-20 | | Boomie: Another Deluxe feature I miss is the right click menu. Also please allow more than one variation at a time. (You may recall that Deluxe embedded the variations in the game score.) This is required to do analysis without using a computer. Or do you want your students to always use a computer to do analysis? I don't think so. For this reason Olga is not a good tool for students. |
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Sep-07-20 | | Boomie: Olga needs to allow under promotion. It always promotes to a queen. There has to be a choice. |
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Sep-08-20 | | jith1207: Good point, <Boomie>. Totally forgot that, but everytime it's a pain in the back of the mind, as it hurts to look at a Queen and consider that as a Knight. |
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Sep-24-20 | | farticchio: Copy Fen don't work
It's my problem or Olga?
Thank's |
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Sep-24-20
 | | paulalbert: Where i used to get the board and pieces so I could play through the games, I now get only advertisements. Not sure what I need to do to fix. |
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Sep-24-20 | | login:
@ farticchio
Olga seems broken.
@ paulalbert
Open https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-playe... and 'check' the status of your 'Flash plugin'. Settings might have changed due to an autoupdate or use of diff apps/platform. Install an 'Adblocker extension' (browser specific) to get rid of the ads until you see the board again. |
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Sep-24-20 | | farticchio: Thanks |
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Sep-28-20
 | | paulalbert: The board and pieces are back now without me doing anything suggested. |
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