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Jul-01-20 | | Tiggler: Not sure about that one. Sudden death time control is overridden by proof of superior strength sufficient for a win, is it not. Well, I am not an Arbiter, so I don't know. It was not until after I had made my last post that I noticed on your bio your proudest moment. Well maybe the incident I posted was mine, so clearly we both have affection for KNB vs K. Not at all sure that I could do it today, if required. I remember that it took steady nerves, more than anything else. When I had to do it, I remember dividing my remaining time by 50. Answer was ~3 minutes. So I made sure to use that much time, at least, on every move, and also telling myself for the first 30 seconds of each move, "don't screw up." |
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Jul-01-20
 | | Phony Benoni: I may be dating myself with that anecdote. The game was played in the 1990s in the United States. At that time, the rule was that a flag fall in sudden death was a loss unless the opponent could not possibly mate ("insufficient mating material"). The kid had only a king left, so the game ended in a draw. "Possible mate" ws interpreted quite liberally. For example, in this positionon:  click for larger viewEither side could claim a win if the opponent's flag fell in sudden death, since it is possible to construct a mating position. But  click for larger viewis a draw.
The rules may have changed since then.
I had every advantage in my game. There was no sudden death, and my game before the adjournment was a short draw. That was an odd games. THe KBN ending went 91 moves, while my other four games <combined> totaled 59! |
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Jul-02-20 | | Tiggler: You are probably right. I always refused to play blitz or anything with sudden death involved, precisely because of absurdities like that. |
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Jul-05-20
 | | Annie K.: Hi <Phony>, the upload script rejected your latest game submission, on grounds of being identical to Yermolinsky vs Paschall, 1995 (which has Bill Paschall as Black instead of Waitzkin). Here's your pgn back in case you want to check details. ;) Which version do you think is correct? [Event "US Class Championship"]
[Site "Syracuse, NY USA"]
[Date "1995.10.??"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Yermolinsky, Alexey Vladislavovich"]
[Black "Waitzkin, Joshua"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2560"]
[BlackElo "2440"]
[ECO "A11"]
[PlyCount "80"]
1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 c6 3.Bg2 Bg4 4.c4 e6 5.cxd5 exd5 6.O-O Nf6 7.d3 Be7 8.Nd4 O-O 9.h3 Bc8 10.Nc3 c5 11.Nb3 Nc6 12.Bg5 c4 13.dxc4 dxc4 14.Qxd8 Rxd8 15.Nd2 Be6 16.Rfd1 h6 17.Bxf6 Bxf6 18.Nde4 Be7 19.Nb5 Rxd1+ 20.Rxd1 Rc8 21.g4 a6 22.Nbd6 Rd8 23.Rd2 b5 24.f4 b4 25.Kf1 Bxd6 26.f5 Be5 27.fxe6 fxe6 28.Rxd8+ Nxd8 29.b3 c3 30.Ke1 Kf7 31.Kd1 Kg6 32.Bf3 a5 33.h4 Kf7 34.Kc2 Ke7 35.Nc5 Bg3 36.h5 Nf7 37.e3 Bf2 38.Nb7 Ne5 39.Bd1 Bxe3 40.Nxa5 Bc5 0-1 |
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Jul-05-20
 | | Phony Benoni: <Annie K> Are you sure I submitted this game? I don't recall doing so, and it's certainly not my latest submission. (Besides, it's only 25 years old, and I don't normally deal with the future. ;) Yermolinsky vs Paschall, 1995 has no game details other than the year. The details of Yermolinsky - Waitzkin, if accurate, do describe an actual game; see the crosstable from MSA at http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.... (By the way, the game date would be 1995.10.21, according to tournament ads in <Chess Life.>.) I suspect that the game in question is actually Yermolinsky - Waitzkin, in which case you need only change Black's name and update the game details. But I cannot be sure of this. |
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Jul-05-20 | | jith1207: <Besides, it's only 25 years old, and I don't normally deal with the future> Poem. |
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Jul-06-20
 | | Annie K.: :) Yes, I had the same impression. Thanks for looking into it, I'll probably go with that. Hmm, I thought it was your submission, but maybe I clicked the wrong line in the queue. Yours should be uploaded too, anyway. |
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Jul-24-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
Good Evening.
I thought you might be interested to know that four new games have been discovered for USSR Championship (1924) - 67 games are currently on <rusbase>. I only identified and harvested one of them, which I will upload at some point in the future. This is the pgn from rusbase, which includes the original source: [Event "Ch URS"]
[Site "Moscow (Russia)"]
[Date "1924.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Levenfish Grigory (RUS)"]
[Black "Wilner Ya"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "?"]
[WhiteElo "0"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
[Remark ""]
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Bd3 Be7 6.Nf3 Nbd7 7.Ng3
O-O 8.O-O b6 9.Qe2 Bb7 10.Be3 c5 11.Rad1 Qc7 12.Rfe1 Rac8 13.c3
Rfe8 14.Bg5 Nd5 15.Bxe7 Nf4 16.Qc2 Nxd3 17.Rxd3 c4 18.Rde3 Rxe7
19.Ng5 Nf8 20.Nh5 h6 21.Ne4 Ng6 22.Rg3 Kf8 23.Qd2 e5 24.d5 Rd7
25.Nhf6 Rdd8 26.d6 Qb8 27.Nd5 Nf4 28.Nxf4 Bxe4 29.Rxe4 exf4 30.Rxf4
Rxd6 31.Rd4 Rcd8 32.Rgg4 Rxd4 33.Rxd4 Rxd4 34.Qxd4 Qc7 35.f4
Kg8 36.Kf2 Qc6 37.b3 cxb3 38.axb3 Qb5 39.b4 a5 40.Ke3 f5 41.bxa5
bxa5 42.c4 Qb3+ 43.Qd3 Qb6+ 44.Ke2 Qb2+ 45.Ke3 Qb6+ /Moskovskij Sluzascij 1924, ♘r.14 z 3.10./
1/2-1/2
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This is the version of that pgn I processed for cg.com upload: [Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Moscow URS"]
[Date "1924.09.??"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Grigory Levenfish"]
[Black "Yakov S Vilner"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[Source "Moskovskij Sluzascij 1924, Nr.14 "]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nf6 5. Bd3 Be7 6. Nf3
Nbd7 7. Ng3 O-O 8. O-O b6 9. Qe2 Bb7 10. Be3 c5 11. Rad1
Qc7 12. Rfe1 Rac8 13. c3 Rfe8 14. Bg5 Nd5 15. Bxe7 Nf4
16. Qc2 Nxd3 17. Rxd3 c4 18. Rde3 Rxe7 19. Ng5 Nf8 20. Nh5
h6 21. Ne4 Ng6 22. Rg3 Kf8 23. Qd2 e5 24. d5 Rd7 25. Nhf6
Rdd8 26. d6 Qb8 27. Nd5 Nf4 28. Nxf4 Bxe4 29. Rxe4 exf4
30. Rxf4 Rxd6 31. Rd4 Rcd8 32. Rgg4 Rxd4 33. Rxd4 Rxd4
34. Qxd4 Qc7 35. f4 Kg8 36. Kf2 Qc6 37. b3 cxb3 38. axb3
Qb5 39. b4 a5 40. Ke3 f5 41. bxa5 bxa5 42. c4 Qb3+ 43. Qd3
Qb6+ 44. Ke2 Qb2+ 45. Ke3 Qb6+ 1/2-1/2
I was able to add the round number from your T.I. write up- very interesting thank you for doing all of that work eh? |
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Jul-26-20
 | | Phony Benoni: <fq> Wow -- it's been over a decade sine I worked on the USSR Championships. If RusBase has been adding new games, we do need to go back and check the tournaments which are missing games. In this case, there are only three new games (66 in all), as RusBase repeats the game N Grigoriev vs V Sozin, 1924. Besides your find of Levenfish - Vilner, the other new games are: [Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Moscow URS"]
[Date "1924.08.??"]
[EventDate "1924.08.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Sergey Nikolaevich von Freymann"]
[Black "Nikolay Dmitrievich Grigoriev"]
[Result "0-1]
[Source "/Molodaja gvardija 1924, Nr.7-8, str.318/"] 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.d4 b6 3.e3 Bb7 4.Bd3 g6 5.Nbd2 c5 6.c3 Bg7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qe2 Qc7 9.e4 Nh5 10.g3 cxd4 11.Nxd4 d6 12.Re1 Nf6 13.a4 a6 14.a5 b5 15.Nc2 Nc6 16.c4 Nxa5 17.cxb5 axb5 18.b4 Nc4 19.Rxa8 Rxa8 20.Nd4 Qb6 21.Nxb5 Qxb5 22.Nxc4 Qxb4 23.Bd2 Qc5 24.Rb1 Bxe4 25.Bxe4 Nxe4 26.Nb6 Nxd2 0-1 [Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Moscow URS"]
[Date "1924.08.??"]
[EventDate "1924.08.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Abram Isaakovich Rabinovich"]
[Black "Grigory Levenfish"]
[Result "0-1]
[Source "Zarja Vostoka 21.9.1924 "]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.0-0 d6 6.d4 Nxe4 7.Re1 f5 8.Bxc6+ bxc6 9.dxe5 d5 10.Nd4 Bc5 11.c3 0-0 12.Nd2 Bb6 13.Re2 c5 14.Nc6 Qe8 15.Nxe4 dxe4 16.Qa4 Bd7 17.Bg5 Bxc6 18.Qb3+ Kh8 19.e6 c4 0-1 |
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Jul-26-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
Excellent.
I submitted all three new games now.
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From USSR Championship (1923) rusbase has one new game: [Event "Ch URS"]
[Site "Petrograd (Russia)"]
[Date "1923.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Wilner Ya"]
[Black "Lebedev Sergey F (RUS)"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C41"]
[WhiteElo "0"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
[Remark ""]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 Nd7 4.d4 Be7 5.dxe5 dxe5 6.Qd5 Nh6 7.Bxh6 1-0 ---
Processed pgn:
[Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Petrograd (Leningrad) URS"]
[Date "1923.07.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Yakov S Vilner"]
[Black "Sergey Fedorovich Lebedev]
[Result "1-0"]
[Source "Tkachenko 'Vilner' (2019) 43"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bc4 Nd7 4. d4 Be7 5. dxe5 dxe5 6. Qd5
Nh6 7. Bxh6 1-0
Not a stub! Black is busted.
You have 29 games from this event, and rusbase currently shows 30. =================
On USSR Championship (1925) you have 51 games and rusbase currently shows 54 of 183. At least one of those is *really* a new game:
Event "USSR Championship"
Site "Leningrad URS"
Date "1925.??.??"
Round "?"
White "Abram Isaakovich Rabinovich"
Black "Yakov S Vilner"
Result "0-1"
Source "Tkachenko 'Vilner' (2019) 64-66"
1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. e3 c5 6. Bxc4 a6 7. a4 Nc6 8. O-O cxd4 9. exd4 Nb4 10. Qe2 Be7 11. Rd1 O-O 12. Ne5 Nfd5 13. Ne4 b6 14. Ra3 f5 15. Ng3 Bg5 16. Bd2 a5 17. Nf1 Bxd2 18. Qxd2 Ra7 19. Rh3 g6 20. Ng3 Rg7 21. Rh6 Nf6 22. h4 Nbd5 23. f3 f4 24. Ne4 Ne3 25. Ng5 Qd6 26. Rc1 Nf5 27. Bxe6+ Bxe6 28. Rc6 Qxd4+ 29. Qxd4 Nxd4 30. Rxe6 Nxe6 31. Nxe6 Re8 0-1 I copied this score from Tkachenko's Vilner biography, so I'm not sure if this one counts as one of the three new rusbase games. =================
I have not yet submitted either of these new games. As you may have guessed I am working on this at the moment: Game Collection: Yakov Vilner games |
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Jul-27-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
On USSR Championship (1927) you have 83 games, and rusbase currently lists 85 http://al20102007.narod.ru/ch_urs/1... This is one of the missing games:
[Event "Ch URS"]
[Site "Moscow (Russia)"]
[Date "1927.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Wilner Ya"]
[Black "Kholodkevich Khrisogon"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C84"]
[WhiteElo "0"]
[BlackElo "0"]
[Annotator ""]
[Source ""]
[Remark ""]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.c4 O-O 7.Nc3
d6 8.d4 Nd7 9.Bc2 Bf6 10.dxe5 Ndxe5 11.Nxe5 Nxe5 12.f4 Nc6 13.Be3
b5 14.cxb5 axb5 15.Nxb5 Bxb2 16.Rb1 Bf6 17.a4 Be6 18.Qf3 Qd7
19.h3 Na5 20.e5 dxe5 21.fxe5 Bd5 22.Bxh7+ Kxh7 23.Qh5+ Kg8 24.exf6
Be4 25.fxg7 Kxg7 26.Bh6+ Kg8 27.Qg5+ 1-0
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Processed for upload:
[Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Moscow URS"]
[Date "1927.10.19"]
[Round "18"]
[White "Yakov S Vilner"]
[Black "Khrisogon Lustinovich Kholodkevich"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Source "rusbase"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. c4
O-O 7. Nc3 d6 8. d4 Nd7 9. Bc2 Bf6 10. dxe5 Ndxe5 11. Nxe5
Nxe5 12. f4 Nc6 13. Be3 b5 14. cxb5 axb5 15. Nxb5 Bxb2
16. Rb1 Bf6 17. a4 Be6 18. Qf3 Qd7 19. h3 Na5 20. e5 dxe5
21. fxe5 Bd5 22. Bxh7+ Kxh7 23. Qh5+ Kg8 24. exf6 Be4
25. fxg7 Kxg7 26. Bh6+ Kg8 27. Qg5+ 1-0
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I didn't upload it yet though.
So presumably 1 more new game in the updated rusbase batch. |
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Jul-27-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
From USSR Championship (1924) now published: Levenfish vs Y Vilner, 1924 S Von Freymann vs N Grigoriev, 1924 A Rabinovich vs Levenfish, 1924 |
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Jul-28-20
 | | Phony Benoni: Glad to see they got connected to the tournament page. I always worry about that. I've made a few updates to the introduction reflecting the new games. |
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Jul-28-20
 | | jessicafischerqueen:
<Excellent news!> I submitted these three games now:
[Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Petrograd (Leningrad) URS"]
[Date "1923.07.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Yakov S Vilner"]
[Black "Sergey Fedorovich Lebedev]
[Result "1-0"]
[Source "Tkachenko 'Vilner' (2019) 43"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bc4 Nd7 4. d4 Be7 5. dxe5 dxe5 6. Qd5 Nh6 7. Bxh6 1-0 Event "USSR Championship"
Site "Leningrad URS"
Date "1925.??.??"
Round "?"
White "Abram Isaakovich Rabinovich"
Black "Yakov S Vilner"
Result "0-1"
Source "Tkachenko 'Vilner' (2019) 64-66"
1. Nf3 d5 2. d4 Nf6 3. c4 e6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. e3 c5 6. Bxc4 a6 7. a4 Nc6 8. O-O cxd4 9. exd4 Nb4 10. Qe2 Be7 11. Rd1 O-O 12. Ne5 Nfd5 13. Ne4 b6 14. Ra3 f5 15. Ng3 Bg5 16. Bd2 a5 17. Nf1 Bxd2 18. Qxd2 Ra7 19. Rh3 g6 20. Ng3 Rg7 21. Rh6 Nf6 22. h4 Nbd5 23. f3 f4 24. Ne4 Ne3 25. Ng5 Qd6 26. Rc1 Nf5 27. Bxe6+ Bxe6 28. Rc6 Qxd4+ 29. Qxd4 Nxd4 30. Rxe6 Nxe6 31. Nxe6 Re8 0-1 ================
[Event "USSR Championship"]
[Site "Moscow URS"]
[Date "1927.10.19"]
[Round "18"]
[White "Yakov S Vilner"]
[Black "Khrisogon Lustinovich Kholodkevich"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Source "rusbase"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. c4 O-O 7. Nc3 d6 8. d4 Nd7 9. Bc2 Bf6 10. dxe5 Ndxe5 11. Nxe5 Nxe5 12. f4 Nc6 13. Be3 b5 14. cxb5 axb5 15. Nxb5 Bxb2 16. Rb1 Bf6 17. a4 Be6 18. Qf3 Qd7 19. h3 Na5 20. e5 dxe5 21. fxe5 Bd5 22. Bxh7+ Kxh7 23. Qh5+ Kg8 24. exf6 Be4 25. fxg7 Kxg7 26. Bh6+ Kg8 27. Qg5+ 1-0 |
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Aug-01-20 | | jith1207: Hi <Phony Benoni>, speaking of your avatar in another page recently, I have to admit that I use this same avatar of yours for my account in a Minnesota Vikings forum, to portray effectively how Kirk Cousins looks like when he has to play a tough game or need to complete a pass to avoid yet another quick walk back to the bench in an important game or with the season on the line. I wanted to say this, but realized you're also from Michigan, like Kirk Cousins! What if you know him, or you supported him in Michigan State Football or his relative or God Forbid, his father!! Who knows, he may have acquired his nerd characteristics from a Cataloger, sounds fitting. Anyway, if you know him, please ask him not to turn into a BEAKER on the football field. Now if you're a Lions fan, you can bet and relax that soon we will be losing to Detroit as well. |
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Aug-01-20
 | | Phony Benoni: <jith1207> You needn't worry. I'm a graduate of the University of Michigan. Enough said. I will root for Kirk Cousins, as a Michigander, as long as the game doesn't affect the Lions' chances. Which means I generally root for him. As for my opinion of him as a player, I will only say that, as a Lions fan, I was quite happy when the Vikings acquired him. |
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Aug-02-20 | | jith1207: Ha ha, nice to know. I hope Stafford gets healthy and wins one season before his time ends there, he has gone through a lot recently. But patricia is scary, in a bad way for their own. |
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Aug-22-20
 | | MissScarlett: You've put today's pun in the wrong place: Game Collection: Chess Review 1937 |
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Aug-22-20
 | | Phony Benoni: <MissScarlett> Thanks. Should be fixed now. |
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Sep-11-20
 | | MissScarlett: James E Warren Any idea if this Warren hailed from Boylston or, failing that, Boston or, at least, Massachusetts? Found a game between James Warren of the Boylston CC and Claude Shannon of MIT. |
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Sep-15-20
 | | Phony Benoni: James E Warren (1933-2014) was associated with chess in Illinois from the mid-1950s until his death. An obituary at https://www.il-chess.org/history/73... makes no mention of his earlier life or education. However, he evidently had a background in computer work, so it's not impossible he attended college in Massachusetts during the 1950s and had a chance to play Shannon then. However, that is just an observation; I have no idea if it is actually true. Warren's professional career began in Illinois in 1959, so it would seem unlikely he would have been at Boylston CC after that. |
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Sep-15-20
 | | Phony Benoni: <MissScarlett> Was you source Lynn Burgess's column in the <Boston Globe>, May 26, 1957? The opening variation (Black side of the Sicilian Dragon) is one that James E Warren played at the time. Warren shows up in this column several times from late 1956 through 1957 (generally playing on a high board for Boylston), but not before or afterwards. There is no mention of him being a student or from Illinois. USCF annual rating lists fro 1956-1959 have James E Warren as an Expert from Illinois, but no similar name from Massachusetts. Still not sure if they can be identified, but there is a little evidence for a fit. |
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Sep-15-20
 | | perfidious: I beat Jim Warren in one of the middle rounds of the 1988 US Open at Boston and then as before, he was listed as being an Expert-level player from Illinois. |
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Sep-16-20
 | | MissScarlett: <Was you source Lynn Burgess's column in the <Boston Globe>, May 26, 1957?> Yes. I've just submitted the game. Agreed that the case for <James E> is less than compelling, but I think it more likely than not, so I've gone with him anyway. The 'anyway' being that we're more interested in getting his opponent into the DB. |
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Sep-27-20
 | | Chessical: Would you be able to nominate your collection Game Collection: Fine - Steiner, 1947? It seems fully referenced and only has a few typos to correct. If you are too busy, but are agreeable, I can clone the collection and clearly show that you are the originator and author of this collection. |
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