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Feb-23-10 | | Jim Bartle: Parish hadn't done much for the Warriors in four years, then took off with the Celts. And if they'd gotten McHale instead of Mr. Apathy (Carroll), the Warriors might have done some damage in the early 80s. Especially with Bernard King flying up and down the court. |
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Feb-23-10
 | | chancho: Trading Robey to Phoenix for Dennis Johnson was another brilliant move by Red. |
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Feb-23-10 | | Jim Bartle: Was that the trade? I had forgotten. Johnson was another classic Celtic. How dumb was Phoenix to make that trade. Or maybe there was some problem between Johnson and the Suns. |
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Feb-23-10 | | Jim Bartle: Hold on. Looked up his record, and Robey played a whole lot more than I remembered. Not a benchwarmer at all. |
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Feb-24-10
 | | chancho: <Jim> Robey was a decent player.
But getting Johnson made it possible for the Celts to win the 1983-84 Championship over the Lakers.
(Scott Wedman too was a great acquisition.) |
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Feb-24-10 | | Jim Bartle: I don't care how good Robey was; getting Johnson for him was a steal. The Celts benefited in the 80s, as they always have when winning titles, with a number of role-playing subs: Wedman, Sichting, ML Carr, even Quinn Buckner. Players with limited ability who could do a couple of things really well. |
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Feb-24-10
 | | chancho: <Jim> I didn't say Robey was good, just decent. And yeah, it was a steal. Dennis Johnson was ten times the player Robey was. I think the reason the trade happened was because Johnson was not happy at Phoenix and was not playing like the Johnson of old. Once he went to Boston that all changed. |
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Feb-24-10 | | Jim Bartle: Wasn't meaning to demean Robey, I meant to praise Dennis Johnson. Just a great player, for some reason often left out when the call those the Bird-McHale-Parish teams. |
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Feb-24-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Al Dark, Mad Genius:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... One shudders to think how many runs the Giants might have given up in the first if they hadn't used four pitchers. |
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Feb-24-10 | | Jim Bartle: Now that's a quick hook. But hit a batter, walk a batter, single...not a good start. I see Mays threw home and let Callison go to second as well, which surprises me. Hendley did have better days, of course. With the Cubs he threw a complete game one-hitter against the Dodgers. Unfortunately Koufax threw a perfect game. |
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Feb-24-10
 | | HeMateMe: I remember those draft years. McHale was a skinny white guy, playing center at the U. Minn, Minneapolis. When the draft was announced, we laughed, figuring Auerbach drafted a guy who couldn't possibly be an effective NBA center ("there go the Celtics--drafting another big, slow white guy"). It didn't dawn on us that McHale would play power forward, instead of center, in a half court, walk the ball up the floor offense. Turned out to be the best half court team ever. |
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Feb-24-10 | | Jim Bartle: The goalies in the USA-Switzerland hockey game were Miller and Hiller. No Haller and no song, unfortunately. |
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Feb-26-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Retrosheet now has box scores for the 1941 AL season up. This means you can follow around such historical feats as Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak. I immediately went to the final day of the Boston Red Sox. You remember the story? Ted Williams has a batting average of .3996, so he can sit out a meaningless doubleheader against Philadelphia and preserve a .400 average. His manager even offers to give him the day off. Ted insists on playing, and here's the first game:
http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1941... Now Williams' average is up to .404, and he can skip the second game with honor. Nope. http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1941... Of course, the prospect of facing the Philadelphia pitching staff, which had the worst team ERA in the league that year, may have whetted his appetite. By the way, the second game is also noteworthy as being Lefty Grove's final appearance. He does go out with a bang instead of a whimper. Too bad the bang was from the A's bats. |
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Feb-26-10 | | Jim Bartle: After the first game Williams could have gone 0 for 4 and still hit .400. In fact 0 for 5 would still have given him an official .400. The story goes that the A's catcher told him before his first at-bat that they were going to try to get him out, but weren't going to walk him. |
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Feb-26-10 | | Jim Bartle: Checking the record I see Williams had the same number of hits in 1942, but with 66 more at-bats, making him slump all the down to .356. Gives an idea how amazing .400 is. |
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Feb-27-10 | | Travis Bickle: Mr. Benoni I was just thinking back on old time baseball ya know The Babe, Gehrig, later Reggie jackson & the charismatic manager Billy Martin. Ahh those were the good old days! ; P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFwB... |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: OK, Travis, you're on my blacklist! Forever!!
Reggie Jackson, old time?? Billy Martin, old time?? How old do you want me to feel? It's like on Cheers when the gang was talking about oldies music, and Woody said, "Oh, you mean like Devo." The others wanted to throttle him. |
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Feb-27-10
 | | Phony Benoni: That didn't look like Gehrig in the dugout. At first, I thought it might be Mickey Mantle, but now I'm wondering if it's Terry Bradshaw. Move over Babe; looks like I'm the one who needs some of that iced tea. |
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Feb-27-10 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony I think that was supposed to be Roger Maris who still had the single season homerun record back then (before steroids). ; P |
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Feb-27-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Who needs steroids when you have iced tea?
Though I have to say that the Babe's first swing was more productive, when his bat flew into the dugout and clobbered Steinbrenner. |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: That really is an excellent commercial. The bat nailing Steinbrenner, and that George is wearing his turtleneck in the heat, is classic. |
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Feb-27-10 | | playground player: To me "old-time baseball" is eight teams a league, only the World Series as "post-season play" (somehow I have come to shudder at that term), games played on natural grass under natural sunshine... and Masonori Murakami, all three Alou brothers in the outfield, Dick Schofield not being the answer at shortstop after all--oops, better stop! Bad enough making <Jim Bartle> feel old; now I'm making myself feel old! |
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Feb-27-10 | | Travis Bickle: JB thats my favorite commercial of all time! Thats right up there with the commercial where the guy is walking through the desert ravaged by the sun dying of thirst. He walks past a man that has a shack. The guy then proceeds to ask the man, "you wouldn't happen to have any Stroh's beer would you"? The man says, "no but I've got some nice cold water". Our thirsty hero says, "no thanks I really had my heart set on a nice ice cold Stroh's beer" and keeps walking into the desert, to which the announcer says, "now there goes a real beer lover"! HAHAHA!!! |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: It's great, but in my opinion "Bingo, must be in the front row!" is the greatest, can never be equalled. What makes it great is that after being booted from all the good seats and getting stuck in the nose-bleeds, Uecker still loves it: "Great seats, eh buddy? He missed the tag!" |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: "all three Alou brothers in the outfield"
When did we move into science fiction? What happened to Mays?? Of course the biggest question for the Giants in the 60s was not getting a shortstop (never did, until Speier showed up in 71), but how to get both Cepeda and McCovey into the lineup. |
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