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Feb-27-10
 | | chancho: <Jim> did you feel the tremors over in Peru? |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: No, not at all (thanks for asking). But we made sure to check for tsunami warnings before going to the beach. There was a warning early, but it was called off. |
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Feb-27-10
 | | chancho: <Jim> We get mild tremors here from time to time.
The last major earthquake to hit Puerto Rico was in 1918.
It was followed by a tsunami that hit the western side of the Island.
118 deaths attributed to it. |
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Feb-27-10 | | A.G. Argent: Ok, Jim, here ya go - Mr. Baseball and Miller Lite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc3U...
With a couple of Tonight Show appearances in the '80s to choose from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qDK... or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5wR...
One of the very best dead-pans of all time. |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: So thoughtful of you, AG, to leave the 49ers 37 Redskins 24 shot after the Great Seats Eh Buddy! Uecker is legitimately funny. I think I've noted this before, but when asked for a testimonial for Mike Shannon for 50 years with the Cardinals, he said, "He's done a great job with the Denver Broncos." |
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Feb-27-10 | | Jim Bartle: When I tried to open the first Carson clip, it said... "An error occurred."
Somehow fitting. |
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Feb-28-10 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> Even Willie Mays needed a breather sometimes. Unless <Phony Benoni> beats me to it, there must be a box score showing all three Alous in the outfield--even if only for an inning or two. |
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Feb-28-10 | | Jim Bartle: Mays didn't take many games off, at least through 1966. He was out there every day. I do believe the three Alous played together for one inning in September 1963. |
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Feb-28-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Well, since you asked...
The only time the Alou brothers were all teammates was September of 1963, when Jesus was a late season call-up by the Giants. Felipe was dealt to the Braves before the 1964 season, and they never got together again. I couldn't find an example of all three starting a game, and only three games where they were in the outfield at the same time: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... (9/15; 8th inning) http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... (9/17; 9th inning) http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... (9/22; 7th inning) All three games were similar situations; blowouts for the Giants, and the Alous that didn't start were inserted as pinch runners or defensive replacements. It was hard to get them in, since Mays played every day and McCovey had to play the outfield with Cepeda becoming a full-time first baseman. Plus Harvey Kuenn, an occasional cameo from Tom Haller, and the Giants had also brought up José Cardenal for his major league debut that month. |
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Feb-28-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Extra feature: In the third game (9/22), all three Alous batted for the Giants in the bottom of the 7th. Also, Cardenal had also played a few games back in April. Sorry about that. |
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Feb-28-10 | | Jim Bartle: The Giants reliever in that game, Bob Garibaldi, was one of the phenoms who never made it. He was a local hero who had pitched for Santa Clara University and had been MVP of the College World Series. Big, big expectations and not much in the way of results. He became a long-time Pac-8 and Pac-10 basketball referee. |
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Feb-28-10 | | Jim Bartle: Looked at the list of College World Series MVPs, and there are four at most who became major league All-Stars, and only one Hall of Famer (Winfield). |
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Feb-28-10 | | Jim Bartle: Opinions on this review by Pete Hamill of the new biography of Willie Mays? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/b... Seems shallow and cliched to me. |
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Mar-01-10
 | | Phony Benoni: The review or the book? Neither one seemed particularly special to me. That picture of Mays from 1973 is sad. Most players tend toward paunchiness as they get older. He looks emaciated. |
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Mar-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: I meant the review. The story of a Brooklyn kid, the Dodgers leaving, Mays was great, all seems so bland and predictable. |
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Mar-01-10 | | Travis Bickle: Hey JB maybe the author should have told a few juicy lies in the book. ; P |
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Mar-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: Not talking about the book, Travis, just the review. How would you like a review of a Ernie Banks biography which said, "It was so great to go out to those day games, see the poor Cubs try, and their great shortstop struggling against the inevitable, always so upbeat he wanted to play two"?
Wouldn't you want something a little more original? |
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Mar-01-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Of course the reviewer wasn't being original. Nostalgia was the whole point. |
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Mar-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: Yes, but it just seems so mundane, nothing surprising, nothing different than we've heard fifty times before ("we" meaning the typical baseball fan). So he refused to follow baseball after the Giants and Dodgers left. So what? |
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Mar-01-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <JB> This one really seems to be sticking in your craw. Is that as a baseball fan, or is it a professional judgment as a writer? |
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Mar-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: Not really. More as a writer, I guess. Hamill writes unremarkable stuff but tries to present it as much more, touching on legends, shared history, etc. Imagine a review written by another NYC newspaperman, Jimmy Breslin. That would have been worth reading. |
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Mar-01-10
 | | Phony Benoni: An Early battery:
http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1941... |
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Mar-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: I didn't realize Wynn was pretty much an average pitcher for a number of years, basically until he was traded to Chicago. Wonder what the Senators thought about his big years as soon as he left Washington? Don't know the players Washington got in the trade, but they better have been good in exchange for Wynn and Vernon. |
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Mar-01-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Wynn and Vernon were originally traded by Washington to Cleveland after the 1948 season. The Senators got Ed Klieman (an undistinguished reliever who pitched only sporadically for a couple of years), Joe Haynes (a solid and consistent starter, but past his prime), and Eddie Robinson (a fairly good hitting first baseman with more power than Vernon). As it turned out, Vernon didn't work out in Cleveland and was back in Washington by 1950. As a matter of fact, his career is kind of weird: .257 1939 WAS A
.158 1940 WAS A
.299 1941 WAS A
.271 1942 WAS A
.268 1943 WAS A
.353 1946 WAS A
.265 1947 WAS A
.242 1948 WAS A
.291 1949 CLE A
.189 1950 CLE A
.306 1950 WAS A
.281 1950 TOT A
.293 1951 WAS A
.251 1952 WAS A
.337 1953 WAS A
.290 1954 WAS A
.301 1955 WAS A
.310 1956 BOS A
.241 1957 BOS A
.293 1958 CLE A
.220 1959 MIL N
.125 1960 PIT N
After two part-time years, he shoots up in .299 in 1941. Then a couple of mild slumps in 1942 and 1943, he spends two years in the military, comes back in 1946 and leads th league in hitting. Then two more slumps in 1947 and 1948, and he gets traded to Cleveland. Good year in 1949, stinks up the joint in 1950 and goes back to Washington in mid-season--where he hits over .300 the rest of the year. Good year in 1951, bad year in 1952, leads the league again in 1953. Decent seasons in 1954 and 1955, but the Senators figure he's due for a slump and ship him off to Boston. First year in Boston is fine, second year stinks. Off to Cleveland--and once again he does well the the first year in a new city! He's also 40 years old, though, and the Indians dump him as aga finally catches up for good the last two years. |
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Mar-01-10
 | | Phony Benoni: José Pagan's finest offensive game as a Giant, going 4 for 5 with two home runs: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... And nobody noticed. |
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