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Jun-02-10
 | | keypusher: Oh, my God. What a horrible way to lose a perfect game. In case anyone is looking for a comparison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBrh... |
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| Jun-02-10 | | benjinathan: pb-perhaps a list of the worst ref calls in sports history is in order. |
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Jun-03-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <benjinathan> Right now, the last thing I need is something depressing. |
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| Jun-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: Ken Griffey Jr. retires.
I feel old. |
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| Jun-03-10 | | Travis Bickle: You are old. |
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| Jun-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: I remember when Ken Griffey was a promising rookie.
Ken Griffey Sr. |
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Jun-03-10
| | Phony Benoni: Here in Detroit, we're sort of wishing a certain umpire had retired before the game yesterday. Actually, people are now giving Joyce some respect. After the game he looked at the replay, told the press frankly that he had missed the call, then went to the Tigers clubhouse and apologized to Galarraga in person. Now I know why he's an umpire. He never could have gotten a job at BP. Which doesn't mean we're not in shock around here. Sorry if I have a one-track mind today. |
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| Jun-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: Looking at that play I wonder about the defense. Cabrera went way, way to his right to field the grounder and make the throw. I would think that would be a routine ball for the second baseman, but he seemed pulled much farther toward the base than usual. Was the batter an extreme pull hitter? |
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Jun-03-10
| | keypusher: The umpire and especially the pitcher have at least given us a lesson in responsibility and forgiveness. But as I always felt about the Christian concept of the "fortunate Fall," it doesn't make up for the loss of the Paradise of perfection. <PB> For what it's worth, here's a famous "blown call" I read about in one of my musty books when I was a kid -- turns out it was just a legend. I'm sure you already knew about it, though. http://www.snopes.com/sports/baseba... |
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Jun-03-10
| | Phony Benoni: It was less a matter of a pull hitter than Galarraga being a "pitch to contact" kind of pitcher. He's not overpowering (only struck out three), but on a good day he resembles someone like Greg Maddux. Other factors: the second baseman was Carlos Guillen, who is new to the position. Also, Cabrera has worked very hard on his fielding, and takes a lot of pride in it. But I also think he's showing a tendency to take too much on himself; that may have been part of the drinking problem last year. Finally, if you look at the replay, that's a bit of a "snowcone" in Galarraga's glove. You could argue he didn't have control of the ball before the batter crossed the base. |
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| Jun-03-10 | | A.G. Argent: So what the hell's going on with this perfect-game-a-week business? Because that was another one, it just ain't gonna be official. Is hitting MLB-wide accordingly anemic so far this season? How can this keep happening? At this rate maybe I'll start taking side bets on who's gonna toss the next one. Lincecum? Carpenter? Lee? |
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| Jun-03-10 | | just a kid: <Phony Benoni> Even if he has a good game,the bullpen will blow it. And we have 31 consecutive innings without a run. <A.G Argent> I think part of it is that,the MLB cracked down on steroids and hitters aren't hitting as well without them. My bet is on some random pitcher from the Blue Jays or whoever is pitching to the D-backs next. |
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| Jun-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: Or maybe catching the Phillies stealing signs has scared other teams, and now batters are on their own. Philadelphia has hardly scored a run since start of the sign-stealing affair. |
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Jun-03-10
| | Phony Benoni: <A.G. Argent> These things just happen. There's no rhyme or reason to them. For example, take the unassisted triple play. The first recorded one came in 1908. The second was in the 1920 World Series, in the same game with the first WS grand slam and the first WS home run by a pitcher. Then from 1923-1927 there were five, including two on consecutive days. After that, it was 1968 before the next one, and then another lull until 1992. These things happen, or rather, don't happen. It may be twenty years before we see another perfect game. Even with that, scoring does seem to be down this year. However, it's not quite at the level of 1968, so it may just be another cycle where the pitchers are a bit ahead of the hitters. |
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Jun-03-10
| | Phony Benoni: Detroit fans probably surprised a few people today. After the game last night, the only people around here not calling for Tim Joyce's immediate firing were those calling for his assassination. But things calmed down after his apology. At today's game, where he was behind the plate, he even got some respectful applause. Not a standing ovation, and not unmixed with boos, but the fans showed they appreciated a man willing to acknowledge his mistake and take the heat. Tigers won, 12-6. What hitting slump? |
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| Jun-03-10 | | hangingenprise: phony: it is a tough break, but your
team showed total class today!!
something of a rarity in todays sports
world.
have to say hey to travis.
my flyers are battling his blackhawks.
go flyers!!
major props to the tigers! |
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Jun-03-10
| | Phony Benoni: Sorry for getting overbearing for a while there.
Ken Griffey Jr. Sure Hall-of-Famer, no breath of scandal. But for those injuries... There may be a reason he retired on June 2. Here is Retrosheet's summary of the events of June 2, 1987. It includes picks from the amateur baseball draft that day. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
Full cycle. |
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Jun-03-10
| | Phony Benoni: OK. One more thing. We still have Austin Jackson's catch for the first out in the ninth. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?c... |
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| Jun-03-10 | | A.G. Argent: Whoa, GREAT catch. And he did it again today, going the other way, pretty much a mirror image. |
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Jun-04-10
| | Phony Benoni: http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/video... |
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| Jun-04-10 | | just a kid: <Travis Bickle:No way does it make up for the Cubs. They ripped my heart out of my chest in 2003 when they CHOKED to the marlins with only 5 OUTS TO GO!! I still haven't recovered.> Try being a Minnesota Vikings fan |
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| Jun-04-10 | | Travis Bickle: <just a kid> Yeah it's been a long time coming for you too but you guys were in about 4 Superbowls but with nothing to show for it. I'd like to wish you luck but the only team in The NFL I hate worse than the Vikings is the Cheesehead Packers!!! |
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| Jun-04-10 | | just a kid: <Travis> I'd imagine that. I feel sorry for cubs fans too. 100 years without winning a championship... |
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Jun-04-10
| | keypusher: A lot of books have been written about the 1908 season, but the one I have is <Crazy '08>. It's worth a look, especially for Cubs fans, because the Cubs were the most successful team in baseball then. <They were grizzlies, those Cubs> says one old-timer in the book. The facile comparison would be to the Yankees, but they remind me more of the mid-70s Big Red Machine -- fast, smart, ultra-aggressive, intimidating. |
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Jun-04-10
| | Phony Benoni: <keypusher> Does that book cover the AL race of 1908 as well? That was another close one, with a puzzling finish. Here are the standings at the close of play: Detroit 90-63
Cleveland 90-64
Chicago 88-64
I'm curious why some games were left unplayed. The missing ones would have been: DET @ WAS
CHI @ WAS
STL @ CHI
Were the logistics just too much? You see, the Tigers and White Sox finished on Tuesday, October 6--but the Senators played a season-ending series with the Yankees (Highlanders) on the 7th and 8th. So the replayed games couldn't have started before the 9th (not to mention any possible tie-breakers) with the Series due to start on the 10th. Maybe they just decided to leave well enough alone. |
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