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| Sep-10-10 | | Travis Bickle: <Phony Benoni> Phony that's because I typed Matt Forte's name and I copied/ pasted the other guys name. LOL!! I'm not that smart to type that large name. ; P |
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| Sep-11-10 | | crawfb5: <PB> I am nearing completion on Game Collection: Cleveland 1871. I am having a tough time finding much information on players in the bottom third or so, but my bigger problem is the dates of play (aside from the general range of 5-15 Dec 1871) are apparently unknown. I can't really talk about the race for first when I have no idea if games were played early or late. I guess I'll have to look for critical games among the top players, especially games against each other. Any suggestions or comments on this or anything else? |
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| Sep-11-10 | | crawfb5: Thanks for the links to the <Westminster Papers>, but they have at least two facts incorrect, I think. They state the congress opened on 13 Dec, and it actually began on 5 Dec. They state that Mackenzie lost the first game to Elder, won the second, and drew the third, all on the same day. The draw <had> to be the first or second game, or it would not have been played. Two decisive games, even if +1 -1, were all that was required against each opponent. Yes, I've seen the summary in the book for the 5th congress. I also have the Olms reprint of Cleveland and it doesn't have any rounds or specific dates either. Access to a Cleveland paper of the era might give some details, but I don't think there's anything online. I checked the NY Times and the Brooklyn Eagle, the two most likely to have something. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | crawfb5: <One question: do you mean historical <Elo> ratings instead of <Edo>, or is there something else going on I don't know about?> You're perhaps thinking of Sonas' Chessmetrics site or something similar? There is another site with <Edo> rating estimates (the guy's last name is Edwards, hence <Edo> rating estimates), which seems to have more of a focus on older players (http://www.edochess.ca/index.html). Any way of trying to do this is going to be subject to some debate, but I am less interested in the rating estimate than some other quick information I can get, like being able to pull up basic data on matches and tournaments. For example, for the year 1871 (http://www.edochess.ca/years/y1871....), there are four matches and a number of tournaments, including three sections of Wiesbaden 1871. Edwards also usually cites his historical sources. |
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Sep-11-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Last Saturday, U-M won their opening game against Connecticut at home. Their quarterback, Denard Robinson, set a school rushing record for quarterback with 192 yards, and passed for 194 more to total 386 on the day. Not bad, but it's only Connecticut at home. This week, he goes up against Notre Dame on the road, and those numbers are likely to be a bit different! They were. 258 yards rushing, 244 passing, for a total of 502. Michigan wins 28-24 as Robinson engineers a long late-game drive. It is just possible that Michigan might have found a quarterback this year. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | Jim Bartle: Does Bo actually let quarterbacks throw the ball now? In the only Michigan game I ever saw in person (1972 Rose Bowl), they never passed until desperation time with two minutes left. |
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| Sep-11-10 | | vonKrolock: Vasconcellos was really a nice guy, with his own light - no need to be remembered as a loser in someone's brilliancy ... Thanks for the good news |
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| Sep-12-10 | | vonKrolock: ...or José !? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nBH... |
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| Sep-12-10 | | hangingenprise: phony: was it a tounchdown? i was listening to the game on the radio. |
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Sep-12-10
| | Phony Benoni: I've been watching football and following the Lions for a half-century now. I thought they had found every possible way to lose, but they continue to amaze me. There just happens to be a new rule this year by which the pass, which would have been a touchdown any other time since the days of Pudge Heffelfinger, could be called incomplete. And that's how the officials interpreted it. Only the Lions can lose games like that. Only the Lions. |
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| Sep-12-10 | | Travis Bickle: Phony that was the ugliest Bears game I've ever seen. The Calvin Johnson non TD was Twilight Zone material! I thought once both of your feet hit the end zone turf it's 6. What about when running backs break the plain of the goal and then fumble? As far as Im concerned the Bears did not deserve to win today. When you cant score from the 1 on 4 tries thats a defeat in itself! |
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| Sep-13-10 | | hangingenprise: phony: after seeing the replay your lions got hosed. not only was it a
great pass and a greater catch, but both feet were down and the ball in procession. how else is he supposed to maintain his balance with a corner-
back all over him? in the process??
b/s |
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| Sep-13-10 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: If Manning or Brady or Favre had thrown that exact same pass, it would have counted, but the Lions are a "nothing" team and were using a backup QB no one had ever heard of....so, no TD. The NFL Network, which is owned by the NFL showed two similar passes from last year, one of which was "complete" & the other "incomplete" |
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| Sep-14-10 | | Russian Grandmasters: <Phony Benoni> thanks for that prompt, and plausible response. I should think your hunch to be much, much, more likely than the possibility that <Dr. Szapiro> managed to get himself out of the Lodz Ghetto in 1944 to New York in time to be a simul player against Frank Marshall. I'd be inclined to go with the Polish sources on the Szapiro game-dating mysteries. |
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Sep-14-10
 | | keypusher: <Deus Ex Alekhina: If Manning or Brady or Favre had thrown that exact same pass, it would have counted, but the Lions are a "nothing" team and were using a backup QB no one had ever heard of....so, no TD. The NFL Network, which is owned by the NFL showed two similar passes from last year, one of which was "complete" & the other "incomplete"> I thought the rule had changed? As PB put it, it would have been a touchdown anytime from Pudge Heffelfinger until this season. If the refs really interpreted the new rule correctly, I suspect it won't last long. It seems like a recipe for controversy. |
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Sep-14-10
| | keypusher: <I thought the rule had changed? As PB put it, it would have been a touchdown anytime from Pudge Heffelfinger until this season.> Come to think of it, the forward pass was not legal in Heffelfinger's day. |
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Sep-14-10
| | Phony Benoni: <keypusher: Come to think of it, the forward pass was not legal in Heffelfinger's day.> That's how bad the call was!
OK, just to clarify: I understood that this was a new rule, just implemented this year, and that it had been emphasized by officials in sessions with teams during the off-season. The officials probably made a correct call on a literal interpretation of the rule, but this may have been a case that called for a little better judgment. The rule will undoubtedly be looked at after the season, and may be interpreted differently from now on. |
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| Sep-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: Just saw the play this morning (what a joke, just a joke), but Lions as the only team who could lose like that? I mean, the Lions don't even have a band ready to run onto the field before the final whistle. |
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Sep-15-10
| | Phony Benoni: <JB>: Don't give them any ideas!!! |
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Sep-15-10
| | Phony Benoni: I typed the preceding message in all caps for emphasis, and it was converted to all lower case. Is someone trying to tone down the shouting around here? Good grief, this place is turning into a Library! P.S. Seems to do that only when the entire message is in caps. |
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| Sep-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: Watched it again. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
He catches the ball in the air, comes down with both feet, lands on his butt completely inbounds and in complete control of the ball, then spikes it while on the ground. Your body hits the ground and you control the ball, that's a catch. (Is there another "tuck" rule I don't know about?) |
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| Sep-15-10 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: There is the "Friar Tuck" rule: you have to say the Hail Mary aloud while catching a Hail Mary pass. |
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| Sep-15-10 | | Jim Bartle: That rule was named after another famous Patriots receiver of an earlier era, Irving Fryar. |
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| Sep-16-10 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni>, <Jim Bartle> To return to baseball for a moment: maybe this is something for the sabermaticians (sp?) out there. I am wondering whether the development of different ways of handling a pitching staff has actually affected the average number of runs scored per game. For instance, take three different eras of pitching: 1)Starting pitcher expected to go 9 innings, only bums in the bullpen; 2) Just about every team has one really strong relief pitcher to lean on (think Dick Radatz, Roy Face, or Steve Foucalt of the 1974 Rangers [Steve Foucalt???]); 3) Bullpen by committee, half a dozen pitching changes per game, employing assorted specialists. The question is: did these 3 very different ways of using a pitching staff actually effect run production? I realize we would have to make allowance for fluke seasons like 1930, 1987, and maybe a few others. When they mess around with the baseball itself, or allow batters to take steroids, all bets are off. |
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Sep-16-10
 | | WannaBe: This is why you should always pay attention at a ball park, even during BP... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVy... |
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