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Oct-31-10 | | playground player: <hangingenprise> I envy you, having seen both Koufax and Ryan. Ron Guidry in 1978 pitched on that level, and Dwight Gooden in 1985. Guidry was performing a little over his head, and came back down. Gooden came way, way, way down--and part of the reason for that was the professional "coaching" he got. The Mets thought he was throwing too many strikeouts, and ordered Mel Stottlemyre to turn him into a sinker-ball pitcher like Mel Stottlemyre used to be. Clemens was great, but now it seems he was cheating all along. Oh, well... I can't afford to go to the ballpark anymore, anyhow. |
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Oct-31-10 | | Jim Bartle: Guidry's 1978, Gooden's 1985 and Clemens' 1986 have to be three of the best years of pitching ever. Never knew that about Gooden and trying to change his style. Reminds me a little of Whitey Herzog telling his coaches they'd be fired immediately if he caught them fooling with Willie McGee's swing. McGee appeared to do everything wrong, but Herzog didn't want to fool with the results. The opposite of the Gooden case. I saw Koufax pitch several times, Spahn as well, and Marichal many times, but missed on Ryan. |
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Oct-31-10 | | A.G. Argent: Congrats, <Czar> - Win #2. Lions and Niners, both 2-6, are on their way back. Heh, heh. Lions maybe, Niners NOT. But at least I got the Ducks. |
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Oct-31-10 | | Jim Bartle: Niners are undefeated in Europe! |
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Oct-31-10
 | | Phony Benoni: If you see the replay of Ndamakuong Suh's fumble recovery TD for the Lions, watch the Redskins player who catches up to him at about the five yard line. Very intelligent play. It was not the moment to attempt a tackle. |
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Oct-31-10 | | technical draw: Darn it! My search engine finds all the "TD's". And I hate it when it's about a touchdown! |
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Oct-31-10
 | | Phony Benoni: <touchdown> I thought you hadn't followed football since the Yankees folded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...(NFL) |
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Oct-31-10 | | technical draw: Yankees? What Yankees? Are they some kind of baseball team? Never heard of dem bums. |
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Nov-01-10 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> For sale (cheap): used copy of "The First Steps 2 Forever: My Story," by Justin Bieber. Introduction by Eddie Brinkman and Barbaro Garbey. |
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Nov-01-10 | | crawfb5: In looking for something else, I came across a report on the 1908 Western Championship held at Excelsior, MN. <ACB> 1908, pp. 212-214 has crosstables for the two preliminary sections of six players each in a single round robin (Swiss? this is chess, not cheese) and the final section of the top three from the preliminaries in a double round robin. There are also four games given (Uedemann-Elliott, Stacy-Schrader, Uedemann-Michelsen, Schrader-Uedemann). |
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Nov-01-10 | | dakgootje: actually somewhat toying with the idea to watch it myself; never really seen any World Series games and now it is the Giants who can win! On the other hand, the game starts at 1:30 am..
Even though I don't have any obligations tomorrow morning.. Oh, decisions decisions. |
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Nov-01-10 | | A.G. Argent: Congratulations Jim. |
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Nov-01-10 | | Jim Bartle: Thanks, but what did I do?
All I can say is winning doesn't feel nearly as good as losing feels bad (2002). Now four players have gotten the Series-winning hit twice: Gehrig! DiMaggio! Berra! Renteria (?) |
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Nov-01-10
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<All I can say is winning doesn't feel nearly as good as losing feels bad (2002).> Let's hope tomorrow isn't too bad for you then. :-) |
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Nov-01-10 | | technical draw: So the Giant's win it. Congratulations to all Giants fans. What Mays, McCovey, Cepeda and Bonds could not do these newcomers show how it's done. Dynasty? I don't think so. Repeat? Probably not. Well at least there's a year to celebrate. |
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Nov-02-10
 | | chancho: Land of the Giants.
Congrats San Francisco! |
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Nov-02-10 | | Jim Bartle: A few anachronisms, but still:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_jo... |
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Nov-02-10 | | playground player: <Jim Bartle> A few years ago I'd have been walking on air today: the Giants have won the World Series! Dusty Rhodes lives! But all those players' strikes and steroid home runs have left me living in baseball's past. Somewhere Christy Mathewson is throwing fadeaways and Carl Hubbell is striking out the demigods of the American League; Mays is catching Vic Wertz's line drive over his shoulder, and this time McCovey's line drive is just an inch higher than Bobby Richardson can reach... and there is no cheating. |
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Nov-02-10
 | | keypusher: <playground player: <Jim Bartle> A few years ago I'd have been walking on air today: the Giants have won the World Series! Dusty Rhodes lives! But all those players' strikes and steroid home runs have left me living in baseball's past. Somewhere Christy Mathewson is throwing fadeaways and Carl Hubbell is striking out the demigods of the American League; Mays is catching Vic Wertz's line drive over his shoulder, and this time McCovey's line drive is just an inch higher than Bobby Richardson can reach... and there is no cheating.> Yeah, but until eight years before Mays made that catch there was a color line; there was rampant throwing of games in the years leading up to the Black Sox; Carl Mays killed a man, etc. etc. No era is clean. |
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Nov-02-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Now that the offseason is here, I may be spending a little more time with <Baseball Digest> at Google Books. Here's an article from July, 1962. http://books.google.com/books?id=kS... Also some interesting pitching stories beginning on p. 35. |
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Nov-03-10 | | playground player: <keypusher> Carl Mays didn't kill Ray Chapman on purpose, did he? (I presume that's the incident you mean.) The Cleveland shortstop was hit in the head by a pitch, there were no helmets in those days, and it killed him. To my knowledge that is the only instance of a player being killed--by accident, of course--in a major league game. But kids get killed in high school ball now and then, usually by a hard line drive (off an aluminum bat!) right back at the pitcher. Meanwhile, I prefer baseball without steroids to baseball with steroids. |
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Nov-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: I prefer baseball with wooden bats. Made of ash, not maple. Too expensive overall, I guess. |
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Nov-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: From the annals of amazing headllines:
"Beltre declines $10M option, will test free agency" |
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Nov-03-10
 | | Phony Benoni: Sparky Anderson placed in hospice care due to complications from dementia: http://content.usatoday.com/communi... Not a big surprise. He was interviewed by a local station earlier this year when Ernie Harwell passed away, and it was obvious that he was not right. |
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Nov-03-10 | | Jim Bartle: I saw that. Really too bad. |
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