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| Aug-12-06 | | fevered cheek: <can look at 3 or 4 games, on the average, to find one real gem, but with Karpov I would have to look at many more to find a similar gem> i agree, but why is that? |
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| Aug-12-06 | | positionalgenius: <sneaky><fevered cheek>You guys should know Karpov-slamming will attract me.
<Sneaky>I agree Fischer is great,but
"but with karpov I would have to look at many more to find a similar gem"-how absurd!Karpov has many great games,all study-worth.His games have single-handedly improved my game,and he's inspired a generation of russian players.(He is Morozevich's favorite player and inspiration).I respect your opinion <sneaky> but this was way off. |
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Aug-12-06
 | | Sneaky: Of course Karpov has many gems--and many duds. And Fischer has some duds as well. Sometimes a game is a dud not because Fischer/Karpov did anything wrong, but just because their opponent blundered and cut the game short before it got interesting. Other times (more in the case of Karpov) an theoretically drawn opening line gets exhausted after 15 or 20 moves then a draw is agreed. But maybe you're right--maybe Karpov is a poor example for my statement. I tell you what, I will look at 10 Karpov games at random, and 10 Fischer games at random, and count the # of games I think qualify as "gems." My guess will be: Fischer 4 or 5, and Karpov 1 or 2, but we'll see, maybe Karpov will win. I swear I'll be honest. |
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| Aug-12-06 | | fevered cheek: i believe that fischers 'style without style' was his greatest strength. he could play like tal one day, and karpov the next. he didn't have any weaknesses, except for being human:) |
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| Aug-13-06 | | positionalgenius: <sneaky>I'll do the same,and post my results shortly. |
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| Aug-13-06 | | positionalgenius: Here are my Fischer results:
Fischer-Shocron 1959
Fischer-Korchnoi,Olympiad,1/2-1/2
Fischer-Reshevsky 1961
Fischer-A Koppay 1964
Fischer-R Byrne,US CHMP,1966 1/2
Fischer-P Dely 1967
Fischer-Geller 1968
Fischer-Gligoric 1970
Spassky-Fischer 1972,13th game.
I rated all on 1-10 scale,here is the total:75/100.Good score.The Fischer-Spassky game is one of my top-3 favorite games of all-time.
<sneaky>Take a game from karpov from these years,if you please:1995,1994,1992,1990,1988,1987,1
1986,1985,1984,1980.
<sneaky>It will be very interesting to see your results.By the way I rate 4/10 games gems. |
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| Aug-13-06 | | positionalgenius: <fevered cheek>why don't you join our little exersize,and where did your forum go? |
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Aug-13-06
| | Sneaky: <Take a game from karpov from these years,if you please:1995,1994,1992,1990,1988,1987,1 1986,1985,1984,1980.> I was thinking instead to pick ten random numbers from 1 to 3143 (the number of games on the Anatoli Karpov page.) Then I'll look up see which games are which numbers. Then I'll do the same with Fischer but I'll pick from 1 to 936. I hope there isn't any severe clustering in either case (e.g. too many games when they are really young), as that would invalidate the experiment. Something I should mention--the player being tested don't have to win a game for it to be a gem. If for instance we stumbled upon Fischer vs Tal, 1959, hell yes, that's a gem. He missed the win, but it's a still a gem. |
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| Aug-13-06 | | fevered cheek: <<fevered cheek>why don't you join our little exersize,and where did your forum go> to be honest and humble, im only rated about 1500, so i doubt my mind can appropriatley wrap around either fishers or karpovs games, maybe in a year or so after i've improved i will take up the suggestion. and my forum is still there |
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| Aug-13-06 | | Hesam7: <Sneaky> I have posted some analysis for this game: Korchnoi vs F Csajka, 1988. |
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| Aug-14-06 | | positionalgenius: <Sneaky>Yes,but you should pick ten games from karpov's prime.Thats what I did with Fischer. |
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Aug-16-06
 | | tpstar: <Sneaky> S Geirnaert vs E Denayer, 2006 Great game. I remembered the Sneaky Line from past experience H Smith vs G Aspler, 2004 , at least through 9. Nc3, but 9 ... d5 took me completely by surprise. Next time I'll try 11. Be3 instead. Please add any comments or suggestions. =) |
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| Aug-18-06 | | Joshka: <Sneaky> Your comments about how pollster's phrase their questions to get the answer they want and KNOW they will get, has been a tactic of the liberal left-wing news media here for a long time. I always laugh when I hear these poll questions, and almost yell at the TV monitor, "Why don't you ask the question in the correct way??"..nice to hear I'm not alone!:-) |
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Aug-19-06
| | Sneaky: <Joshka> Thanks.
<positionalgenius> I've put my "compare 10 games" project on hold, because to really do it right it's going to take a lot of time, and I'm short on time for the moment. |
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| Aug-20-06 | | Hesam7: <Sneaky> what are your sources for semi-slav from Black side? I am thinking about playing it myself. I had a look at Glenn Flear's book "starting out: slav and semi-slav" but I did not like it. |
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| Aug-20-06 | | Zebra: I would also be interested in resources for studying the Semi-Slav. I play the Cambridge Springs, but have sometimes found myself virtually forced to transpose into something like a Meran Variation when white omits Bg5. As it happens I won, but need to know these openings better - they are extremely complicated. |
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| Aug-20-06 | | Zebra: Incidentally there is some material on both at Exeter University's chess coaching site, which I have found generally quite good. I imagine though that you are looking for something more advanced. http://www.exeterchessclub.org.uk/O... |
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Aug-20-06
| | Sneaky: A long time ago I started playing the Slav, and a Flear book which I did enjoy was my first inspiration, called "The Slav for the Tournament Player." Later I started to appreciate the fact that the Semi-Slav is more dynamic than the Slav. In fact the Slav player has to brace himself against some crushingly boring lines if White wants to go that way. The Semislav on the other hand requires White to play precisely to maintain an advantage. Even against strong players I often find myself in an equal position when the middlegame arrives. And not just a "boring equal" postiion, but an imbalanced equal position. My sources? Amazingly, not a single book dedicated to the subject--just personal research. I just started to look at game after game of Semi-Slav, first at Chessbase and later at this site. My first "aha" experience is when I realized that the horrible looking Queen's bishop is just an illusion--it's poised to come alive at a moments notice, when ...c5 is played, and White can hardly prevent Black from doing this. Then when I started to see the games where White plays effectively, I was astonished at how Black seems to always find a "miracle defense", at least when a strong player has the Black pieces. That's when I started to believe that the opening has a "guardian angel" sent by Caissa. |
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Aug-20-06
| | Sneaky: A new feature on the Sneaky forum ...
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Saxaphone: John Coltrane
Piano: Wynton Kelly
Drums: Jimmy Cobb
Bass: Paul Chambers
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| Aug-20-06 | | suenteus po 147: <Trumpet: Miles Davis
Saxaphone: John Coltrane
Piano: Wynton Kelly
Drums: Jimmy Cobb
Bass: Paul Chambers> That is an awesome line-up. |
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| Aug-21-06 | | Hesam7: <Sneaky> Check this out: http://pandora.com/ |
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| Aug-21-06 | | Hesam7: <Sneaky: My sources? Amazingly, not a single book dedicated to the subject--just personal research. I just started to look at game after game of Semi-Slav, first at Chessbase and later at this site.> Interesting. As someone who plays semislav what do you do against 5. Bg5? As far as I know there are two choices for Black: The Moscow variation (5... h6) or the Botvinnik variation (5... dxc4). To play the latter you need to know a huge amount of theory while the first one might lead to positions you did not expect when you played semislav. I give you an example: 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bxf6 Qxf6 7. Qb3 Nd7 8. e4 dxe4 9. Nxe4 
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Aug-21-06
| | Sneaky: <As someone who plays semislav what do you do against 5. Bg5?> I lose ;-) No seriously, I take the bull by the horns and play the Botvinnik variation but I have to admit I don't feel particularly well prepared in that line (does ANYBODY?) I can even show you where my prep stops:
After 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 e6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Nxg5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Nbd7 11. exf6 Bb7 12. g3 c5 13. d5 Qb6 14. Bg2 O-O-O 15. O-O 
click for larger view From here I know that Black usually plays ...b4 but I forget the details. A big tussle is in store for both sides. |
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Aug-21-06
| | Sneaky: Hesam That's a cool music service. Try this: http://www.dwire.org/google-search-... It's a tool for using Google to locate mp3's, works very very good. Today's << free mp3 >> is by the musical band Phish, a song from a 1992 concert http://www.momadance.com/music/1992... The name of this song is "It's Ice" and if you listen to the lyrics it tells a strange tale of a man who sees his reflection in the ice of the frozen lake, and the reflection lashes out at him and starts a huge life-or-death struggle in which one of them surely must die. Strange as it may seem, I honestly believe that this song is some kind of metaphor for the game of chess, or at least that's what I believed when I first heard the song (and I had won my first three games a local weekender tournament). Is that not the overall theme of chess, that you are engaged in a life and death struggle with an opponent who is nothing more than your exact mirror image? "My double wants to pull me down ..." <<
I beg my mirror image for a moment with my soul /
He's leaning back, time to attack, to see who's in control /
And every move I make he's got a hand up just in time /
He's throwing several punches, and he's blocking most of mine /
Defeated now I sulk and squirm above the frozen heights /
Waiting, calculating till he ventures onto the ice.
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| Aug-21-06 | | Hesam7: <Sneaky> :-) My knowledge of Botvinnik is about the same as yours. After: 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 e6 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Bg5 dxc4 6. e4 b5 7. e5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Nxg5 hxg5 10. Bxg5 Nbd7 11. exf6 Bb7 12. g3 c5 13. d5 Qb6 14. Bg2 O-O-O 15. O-O b4 
click for larger viewAnd now White has two main options: 16. Rb1 or 16. Na4. Another point is that after 16. Na4, 16... Qb5 is forced. |
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