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TheAlchemist
Member since Feb-23-05
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   Dec-24-24 TheAlchemist chessforum
 
TheAlchemist: Thank you, you too!
 
   Dec-09-24 Ding Liren vs D Gukesh, 2024 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: The genius of Ding's play to me was how (except Nb5) he made moves solely on his own half of the board and in 25 moves he completely outplayed Gukesh.
 
   Oct-28-23 D Lazavik vs Wojtaszek, 2023 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: White played a seemingly clever sacrifice, but the refutation on move 25 was simply stunning
 
   May-09-23 M Kolesar vs O Sikorova, 1998 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: <goodevans: Will we have another Milan-based pun tomorrow when its two big football teams face each other in the Champions League Semi-Final? https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsl... It's a huge reach, but you could call it even timelier. Unfortunately Slovaks call it ...
 
   Apr-30-23 Nepomniachtchi vs Ding Liren, 2023 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: Amazing, what a finish, what a match. Congratulations, Ding!
 
   Nov-08-22 D Citra vs R Vaishali, 2016 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: Great pun!
 
   Aug-08-22 European Team Championship (2001)
 
TheAlchemist: I'd have to dig out contemporary magazines to be sure, but I think it said Black simply left the playing hall and never returned, leaving everyone puzzled (teammates included).
 
   Jun-26-22 David Moody (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: Terrible news. Rest in peace, PB.
 
   Oct-17-21 Keres vs A Sakovski, 1936 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: I also forgot to add that both of those are masculine forms, the feminine one would be "šahistka". I was a bit too fast with the reply.
 
   May-25-21 A Ilyin-Zhenevsky vs A Model, 1932 (replies)
 
TheAlchemist: <OCF> Zheneral?
 
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Feb-17-16  Whiterun Guard: <TheAlchemist> Heard about you and your honeyed words...
Feb-17-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheAlchemist: <Whiterun Guard> Don't worry, just a few more hours and you can crawl under some furs.
Feb-20-16  Whiterun Guard: <TheAlchemist> I'm telling you, I heard it howling. Those werewolf tales are true.
Feb-20-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheAlchemist: <Whiterun Guard> Keep your eyes open. Damn dragons could swoop down at any time.
Feb-20-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: I was fascinated by the game excerpt you posted, which I found reproduced with annotation by Paata Gaprindashvili in his Imagination in Chess as you have it here. Gino Di Felice lists O. Kronlaks (probably Olafs -- born in Latvia in 1941) and Georgy Kneller as participants in the tournament at Liepaja 1976 in his Chess Results 1975-1977 at 166, but their game that year was a draw. Funny thing is, Kneller appears in another game excerpt ascribed to Liepaja 1972 that is seen here and there in collections -- that one against a player named Schapiro, who Kneller (playing Black) supposedly bested.

Kneller is pretty much a cipher (no offense to him), which makes me wonder about the authenticity of these game excerpts. Maybe they were concocted problems? I suppose tournament results from Liepaja 1972 with game scores would be definitive.

Anyway, I hope you are doing well. Best wishes. ~ lufty

Feb-20-16
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  TheAlchemist: <luftforlife> Hey! Thanks for the info, amazing you managed to dig so much up. Unfortunately cases such as this are where internet search engines are pretty useless. What is interesting is that apparently some mistakes just get repeated and reprinted over and over without any verification (I suppose I'm doing that as well in this instance).

And if you don't own many books, especially not from the period in question, you become pretty much reliant on other people who just so happen to know the information. I suppose the relevant Informant might contain the game if it is indeed genuine.

For a funny instance, once in a Slovenian magazine they attributed the finish of Rossolimo vs P Reissmann, 1967 to Planinc and I'm not sure they ever corrected it. And with word of mouth etc. it's easy to imagine how such mistakes get made, especially if the games or players in question are less known.

Feb-22-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: Great to hear from you! You certainly know whereof you write; I definitely agree with you. Sadly, online research in this area is often fruitless. Often these fragments get passed around like the proverbial Christmas fruitcake -- anonymous and ossified, studded with errors like so many petrified citrons, and just as jejune. Hard to digest!

I'm glad you mentioned Planinc. I'm on a mission right now to amass all his tournament wins and to share them. His games are the center of his estimable legacy, and each of his wins deserves to be studied and appreciated and enjoyed. I've found some games not hosted here; some I've uploaded (more than two weeks ago) and some I haven't. None of my uploads has yet made the grade, and I fear that's because I haven't provided hard, published sources for them (though certainly I've searched broadly and deeply), but merely soft, online sources, including a fascinating yet anonymous Russian or Slovenian list with some rare and valuable entries that, while it is tantalizing, remarkably accurate, and seemingly reliable, nonetheless is far from self-authenticating.

Would you be willing to help me in this regard? I believe your assistance would prove invaluable. Perhaps if we could verify these missing wins, we might convince the adminstrators this time to upload them, which would help to clarify Planinc's tournament history, to augment his oeuvre, and to inspire ardent admirers and newer fans alike. Frankly, given all the interest in Planinc's life and career, much of which remains compelling yet obscure, I think this mission is timely (indeed, long overdue) and worthwhile; certainly I believe it would be exciting to pursue and rewarding to fulfill.

I'm happy to provide a list of these unheralded victories, and to share PGN headers and moves for them. Three great games are from 1981, and two lesser games are from 1983. I'm convinced Planinc played these games, for a number of reasons (and I know you've expressed the belief here that he played into the early '80's), yet my sources, while seemingly reliable, are not definitively authoritative. Most of the other games from the '70's not yet hosted here I've found identically posted across several websites, but that doesn't constitute proper corroboration in my book. As you mentioned, errors creep in (especially online) even to published scores from complete games, and the "fruitcake" phenomenon of uncorrected error perpetuation (and the more remote possibility of fake games) calls for authentication by resort to reliable published sources. Perhaps you might have access to some of these sources I've not found online, and we might make real progress together. Anyway, I hope so.

Please let me know your thoughts. Thanks; I hope you are well; and I hope to hear from you soon.

Best wishes. ~ lufty

Feb-23-16  Knight13: <TheAlchemist> What's your take on the contents in my profile? I'm interested in knowing what you think.
Feb-24-16  Knight13: <TheAlchemist> Were you alive during the communist times?
Feb-25-16
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  TheAlchemist: <Knight13> Yes, but I didn't really experience it, when we gained independence I was 6 years old. And even during that time the country was going downhill (hyperinflation, tensions mounting between republics and with the authorities - one of the major incidents leading up to our independence happened in 1988, the rise of various nationalists like Milošević, power struggles, etc.). Basically the county was slowly dying since Tito's death in 1980, he was the glue that held it together.

As for your other question, I went through your list and some sources yesterday evening, it seems you did quite extensive research. I am actually familiar with some of the incidents you listed (Tim Hunt, the thing in Seattle, Milo's debate at Bristol), the Hunt one was blown way out of proportion and the Seattle thing is not really the right way of going about things (mildly put) and is obviously sexist.

The interview you posted is pretty interesting, I think I've heard some of those figures mentioned, and I am glad she mentioned the business aspect, as I've speculated before the movement (as is usually the case) is a refuge (pun intended :-)) for con artists and people looking for financial gain.

I wonder how it's in my country. We are quite conservative and there are cases where women are being discriminated against e.g. in scientific fields by the older generation (I was discussing this very thing with a colleague from work and she gave me some quite blatant examples).

Still, I think I've said a while ago it wasn't such a problem here, well I did a bit of research of my own and found we do have our version of gender studies as part of the curriculum for sociology, pedagogics and probably others. It hasn't been around that long, so maybe that's why I didn't see such a big influence on public debate, but maybe I was wrong and this is only the proverbial calm before the storm. And as the pendulum finishes swinging, it might swing too far in the other direction just as it did in some Anglo-Saxon and other countries.

Feb-25-16
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  TheAlchemist: <luftforlife>

Hey! Sorry it took so long. Honestly, I'm not sure I can be much help, but I can try if you wish, I just wouldn't want to give you false hope :-).

I think the only thing I could do is try and search through newspapers from those actual dates (if you have them), our national library has put many online in digital form and I could use this as a way to test the system as it were. And maybe help you along the way :-).

Other than that I'm not sure what I could do. Any ideas? Do you have or know someone who has the relevant Informants?

Feb-25-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: Thanks for getting back to me! Always great to hear from you. Please know I am grateful for your offer of assistance, and please know I wish never to impose. Any help you might provide would be very deeply appreciated.

I've checked the following archive, but sadly it is missing the issues from 1981 and 1983 that might contain vital, reliable information about Planinc's games from those years:

http://www.sah-zveza.si/sahvest/

I'm not sure if you would have access to hard copies, but resort to them might well prove invaluable.

Newspaper resources might be quite helpful as well, although I don't know how often or how thoroughly Planinc's games were covered in Yugoslavia back when they were played.

I did try to find a legitimate online archive for Šahovski Informator, but came up empty. I don't know who might have back issues and be willing to consult them, but certainly such research likewise might prove invaluable. I know the publication was held in the highest esteem, by Bobby Fischer and by many others.

I'll post my list of Bine's missing wins (meaning those not yet hosted here), with relevant information, in the hopes that you will enjoy the games and perhaps be able to help me to authenticate them so they might be uploaded. I did refrain from including Elo ratings when I submitted the games, for fear it might have been inaccurate; perhaps that was a mistake, as it might have disinclined the administrators from considering the games for upload. I had thought Planinc's GM status alone would suffice, and I should think each and every one of his games (especially his tournament victories) worthy of upload, but I may be mistaken in my assessments in these regards. My lack of hard, published sources may also have prevented my submissions from gaining traction. Accordingly, I'll send along all the information I have.

I'll be back in touch shortly. In the meantime, thanks so much, and I hope you are well. Kind regards.

Sincerely, ~ lufty

Feb-25-16  luftforlife: For ease of reference, here once again is the link to the January 8, 2009 article by Bernard Nežmah:

http://www.mladina.si/45876/v-pozab...

Among other listed resources in what appears to be an informal bibliography towards the end of the piece is this reference that caught my eye:

"Srbski mojster FIDE Janoš prek spleta prodaja partije najveèjih svetovnih igralcev, med njimi »268 partij Albina Planinca«."

I tried to find what appears to my uneducated eye to be this compilation or list of two-hundred sixty-eight of Albin Planinc's games, but had no luck. Do you think it might be worth searching out? I gather it was compiled by a Serbian FIDE Master named Janoš; not sure who that might be, as the three players in the database here bearing that surname are all Slovakian.

Just wanted to point out this possible resource. More soon.

Best, ~ lufty

Feb-25-16
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  TheAlchemist: <luftforlife> The Šahovski vestnik (the archive you found) was mostly a collection of tournament results, tournament dates and invitations, records from the chess association meetings, rating lists etc., i.e. it dealt more with the bureaucratic aspects than anything. I noticed some did contain selected games.

As an aside, it was interesting browsing through the older volumes, I found an announcement my chess mentor of sorts (he got me to sign up to our local club) was awarded the 1st category (the rank below candidate master) way back in '82 and with him a few others I recognize.

Feb-25-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  TheAlchemist: <I tried to find what appears to my uneducated eye to be this compilation or list of two-hundred sixty-eight of Albin Planinc's games, but had no luck. Do you think it might be worth searching out? I gather it was compiled by a Serbian FIDE Master named Janoš; not sure who that might be, as the three players in the database here bearing that surname are all Slovakian.>

Yeah, the FIDE database has none as well. I'm not sure where he got the info. The magazine in question has somewhat lowered its standards in the last decade at least (it used to be the best alternative and anti-establishment magazine in the 1980's and beyond), while the journalist is usually more of a political commentator than anything. What I mean is that we can be a bit sceptical, it could have been a mistake. The way players' names are often mangled is, frankly, embarassing, even in "established" chess publications.

Feb-25-16
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  TheAlchemist: <luftforlife> Also, it is possible CG simply have many games in their backlog and they're simply still in the queue waiting to be processed. You might want to ask Daniel or someone over at their forum. I've uploaded some games I found on the internet and they got accepted, even though the origins of some were dubious (it probably helped they were very wild and beautiful). In retrospect it may have made the database a little less historically accurate but in turn it has a few good games more. At least to me it's a fair trade, many will probably disagree.
Feb-25-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: Thanks for all the feedback! I really appreciate it.

Glad you found the back issues personally interesting. Although I have no Slovenian/Serbo-Croatian, I did perceive what you're referring to about the bureaucratic nature of the publication; I was happy to find a few games interspersed amidst the prose. I still believe some of Albin's games may be in the issues missing from the archive. Informator would probably be the more likely source, but any source would be a blessing.

I didn't take the Nežmah piece too seriously; looked pretty desultory to me, but, again, that was just a preliminary perception, given the language barrier. Your critical and contextual comments are extremely helpful. Healthy skepticism is warranted across-the-board, no matter the language; you're right about inexactitude and shallowness in much of what passes for chess scholarship.

Thanks too for the helpful insight and encouraging observations about the PGN-uploading process. I'm new here, so after waiting a month or so, even though the site seems fair and democratic to me, I feared there might be a pecking order, or some unwritten protocol to observe, and I'm heartened by your experiences and by your comments. Which wild and beautiful games did you successfully submit?

I recently found a splendid game from 1981 that I'll share with you shortly, along with the PGN moves for the four games (two from 1981 and two from 1983) for which I recently provided PGN headers in the Albin Planinc forum.

Best, ~ lufty

Feb-26-16
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  TheAlchemist: <luftforlife>

E Kalegin vs S Yuferov, 1990

Stanishevsky vs Nikonov, 1981

B Melvin vs R Cunningham, 1994 (in truth someone else uploaded it, I was the first to post the moves)

There are a few I copied from an issue of the 1973/74 Informator I have (like Podgaets vs V Gusev, 1974), there's A Kosten vs I Farago, 1992, Podgaets vs G Zaichik, 1986 (at least I think I uploaded them after posting), a few of Grefe's missing games from his US Championship win etc. I'm not that productive, actually :-)

Feb-26-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: Thanks very much! I greatly enjoy your game collections, and I look forward to playing through these games you've been kind enough to bring to my attention. I appreciate your good taste, your keen insights, and all your kind and generous efforts.
Feb-26-16  luftforlife: Here's a missing Planinc tournament victory I found on Internet Chessbase:

[Event "Yugoslavia"]
[Site "?, Yugoslavia"]
[Date "1981.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Milisevic, ?"]
[Black "Planinc, Albin"]
[ECO "E99"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5 Ne7 9. Ne1 Nd7 10. Nd3 f5 11. Bd2 Nf6 12. f3 f4 13. c5 g5 14. Rc1 Ng6 15. a4 Rf7 16. a5 h5 17. h3 Bf8 18. cd6 cd6 19. b4 g4 20. hg4 hg4 21. fg4 Nh7 22. Nf2 Ng5 23. Nb5 f3 24. gf3 Rh7 25. Qe1 Qf6 26. Rc7 Bd7 27. Qc1 Nh3 28. Nh3 Qh4 29. Qe1 Qh3 30. Kf2 Qh4 31. Ke3 Bh6 32. f4 Bf4 33. Rf4 ef4 34. Kd4 Qf6 35. Kc4 Bb5 36. Kb5 Rc7 37. Qb1 Qd4 38. e5 Ne5 0-1

I checked chessbites's tournament database (which does feature Planinc's two games from Pula 1981 -- the ones I provided PGN headers for at the Albin Planinc forum), but it does not list this game under "YUG-ch" or "Yugoslavia, Yugoslavia." White may have been played by FIDE Master Miodrag Milisevic or by Predrag Milisevic.

This game to me is very much in the Planinc style. Great pawn tension early on, careful strategizing in the early midgame, fierce concentration and avoidance of defensive distractions, relentless tactical attack, and conclusive positional domination. The king hunt is a merry chase indeed. Tally-ho!

Please play this one and let me know your mind. Any information from published sources would of course be most welcome. Enjoy!

Kind regards. ~ lufty

P.S.: I've not yet submitted this game as a PGN upload, but I'd love to authenticate it so I may do so with confidence. Thanks again!

Feb-27-16  Knight13: <TheAlchemist> I asked about communism because I suspect feminism may seem too close to it for ex-communist countries' citizens who have grown to resent it.

Let me go over how similar they are: the feminist belief in equality of outcome (50/50 men-women) instead of equality of opportunity (NBA is not 50/50 black-white), its anti-meritocratic nature of advocating for quotas and pressuring corporations to hire women and government to put women in positions of power with more emphasis on gender than on merit; dividing women and men into classes, the idea that the system needs to be completely changed because patriarchy(capitalism) is oppressive and the privileged white men (bourgeoisie) must be dealt with so that women (proletariat) can finally be free of the abuse of men (capitalist pigs). Oh, and it's okay if blacks outnumber whites in NBA for feminists because the blacks (honorary proletariat) have the advantage. They try to achieve it through non-violent means (cultural Marxism) instead of a revolution. Like in every bloody communist revolution, the bourgeoisie (men) are first demonized through propaganda before the "inevitable" uprising that will overthrow the system--except in this case they are trying to do it through cultural revolution instead of violent revolution.

Oh, and let's not forget the "central planning" aspect where the feminists, who are of course the ones in charge, determine what product is acceptable and not acceptable to be consumed by the public (such as what is "sexist" and "not sexist" in video games, comic books, toys, TV shows, movies, art, universities and whatever else they decided is sexist two hours ago).

The above applies to SJWs, too, of course--in which feminists are a subgroup of.

And thanks for your feedback on my profile. Do you think it's objective or too biased? Reasonably objective, for it is impossible to be completely objective. A second opinion helps.

Feb-27-16
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  TheAlchemist: <Knight13> Yeah, there are definitely many similarities and I don't think they're even trying to hide it. I have recognized the "central planning" aspect of it, for example, pretty quickly. Unfortunately, here we are still laden with nostalgia, thinking and methods from the old system, so perhaps my country isn't the best example (there was no lustration in politics, people in charge of public companies, etc.). I think people from countries that have had "harder" versions of communism (from the Warsaw pact) are much more likely to recognize the similarities - and thus reject their propaganda.

Regarding your profile, hmm, I know it's hard to be objective if you support one side, but I think focusing on the data and letting it speak for itself (though even that is often not enough) is best. If you find more studies, you could put links, etc. Hopefully I'm not just acting as an echo chamber, but I imagine someone who doesn't agree might find it completely biased.

Feb-28-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: Here's a lively battle you might enjoy:

Sax vs Vogt, 1976

I'm enjoying the games you forwarded, and I'll give you my considered commentary shortly. I hope you are enjoying Albin's win over Milisevic; were I to denominate it, I'd dub it "Dawn Patrol."

More soon. In the meantime, kind regards.

Best, ~ lufty

Feb-28-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: For your collection Chess Informant: 640 Best Games -- Part 2:

Looks like <Vladimir> Feldman beat Mark D. Tseitlin in the U.S.S.R. in 1971:

http://chess-db.com/public/game.jsp...

More soon! Best, ~ lufty

Feb-28-16  luftforlife: <TheAlchemist>: For your collection Chess Informant: 640 Best Games -- Part 2:

Looks like Svetozar Gligoric beat <Thomas> Avery at <Lone Pine> in 1971:

http://sah.hr/forum/index.php?topic...

More soon! Best, ~ lufty

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