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TheAlchemist
Member since Feb-23-05

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   TheAlchemist has kibitzed 6848 times to chessgames [more...]

   Dec-24-24 TheAlchemist chessforum

TheAlchemist: Thank you, you too!

   Dec-09-24 Ding Liren vs D Gukesh, 2024

TheAlchemist: The genius of Ding's play to me was how (except Nb5) he made moves solely on his own half of the board and in 25 moves he completely outplayed Gukesh.

   Oct-28-23 D Lazavik vs Wojtaszek, 2023

TheAlchemist: White played a seemingly clever sacrifice, but the refutation on move 25 was simply stunning

   May-09-23 M Kolesar vs O Sikorova, 1998

TheAlchemist: <goodevans: Will we have another Milan-based pun tomorrow when its two big football teams face each other in the Champions League Semi-Final? https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsl... It's a huge reach, but you could call it even timelier. Unfortunately Slovaks call it ...

   Apr-30-23 Nepomniachtchi vs Ding Liren, 2023

TheAlchemist: Amazing, what a finish, what a match. Congratulations, Ding!

   Nov-08-22 D Citra vs R Vaishali, 2016

TheAlchemist: Great pun!

   Aug-08-22 European Team Championship (2001)

TheAlchemist: I'd have to dig out contemporary magazines to be sure, but I think it said Black simply left the playing hall and never returned, leaving everyone puzzled (teammates included).

   Jun-26-22 David Moody

TheAlchemist: Terrible news. Rest in peace, PB.

   Oct-17-21 Keres vs A Sakovski, 1936

TheAlchemist: I also forgot to add that both of those are masculine forms, the feminine one would be "šahistka". I was a bit too fast with the reply.

   May-25-21 A Ilyin vs A Model, 1932

TheAlchemist: <OCF> Zheneral?

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Jan-30-07		Zebra: I am still undecided at the moment, although the Dragon is my normal line, and I am encouraged by the number of other dragon players in the team. <TTLump: Anyway, I would still like to play 5... a6 and if we decide to go with the Dragon, we can most likely play 6... g6 on the next move.> This is possible if we intend to play a Najdorf-Dragon hybrid (a4, Nd7, g6) - a line I don't know much about, though it seems to be enjoying some success (I think Fedorov plays it for example). If we want to play a straight Dragon, however, then a6 is too slow (if we find ourselves facing the Yugoslav, which is not unlikely). I would dive straight in with 5...g6.

Jan-30-07		Zebra: For a nice example of the aforementioned Dragon-Najdorf hybrid, see S Satyapragyan vs Fedorov, 2006. Personally, IF we are going to play the dragon, I would prefer a straight 5...g6, or at any rate that is the only line on which I know any theory.

Jan-30-07		Zebra: Sorry, in my next to last post, a4 should of course be a6. The line referred to is 5...a6, 6...Nbd7, 7g6 (with possible permutations, as in the Fedorov game). I hope I've got it right this time...

Jan-30-07		Marco65: <Zebra> I don't feel confident either in experimenting such unbeaten paths. Just as a gut feeling, in that game I prefer White at move 10, but the manouever Nc6-b4 wasted the advantage in development imo. I am for 5...g6 and don't deviate from theory so early.

Jan-30-07		farrooj: Hi <TheAlchemist>! Does this count for memorable quotes? Edinburgh Chess Club

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: <farrooj> Of course, thanks! I can't beliee I didn't notice it myself, I posted there right after him. Oh, well... How have you been, by the way? Still on the grill? :-)

Jan-30-07		farrooj: Fine, a lot of homework though :) I'm trying to get back into professional chess (Tournaments, Studies, Clubs, etc..) but it's hard to manage. And you?

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: Ok. I'm studying a little (less than I should, however :-)), lurking around here... Not much, really. You know what, I'll add you to our fans' list, whether you like it or not, we need a few more members anyway. :-)

Jan-30-07		farrooj: Err...Thanks? :)

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: It's ok, you don't really have to do anything, just keep your fingers crossed.

Jan-30-07		Zebra: <Marco> I agree with you, in fact there is a lot about white's play here that I don't get. I would prefer not to adopt this hybrid for white, and stick to a straight choice (i.e. this move) between dragon or najdorf-scheveningen, and then go for it. For a Scheveningen I suppose Nc6 and e6 are also playable, though I much prefer Kasparov's a6 move order.

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: I don't like 5...e6 here because of 6.g4

Jan-30-07		farrooj: Can I comment about any move or am I assigned to sit and watch in awe? (non-sarcastic, fanboy tone)

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: <farrooj> You can comment freely on <Achieve>'s forum: User: achieve (really!)

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: A few recent correspondence games I've found: [Event "corr W-18ch"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2003.06.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Tiemann, Hagen"] [Black "Van Oosterom, Joop J"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2513"] [BlackElo "2725"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "108"] [EventDate "2003.06.01"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 O-O 10. O-O-O Nbd7 11. g4 Qc7 12. Kb1 Rfc8 13. g5 Nh5 14. Rg1 g6 15. Nd5 Bxd5 16. exd5 a5 17. a3 Nb6 18. Rg4 Bd8 19. Rh4 f6 20. gxf6 Nxf6 21. Bxb6 Qxb6 22. Bh3 Rc7 23. Be6+ Kh8 24. Ra4 Rg7 25. Rc4 Nh5 26. Nc1 Nf4 27. Ne2 Qa6 28. Re4 Nxe2 29. Qxe2 Qxe2 30. Rxe2 Bb6 31. Re4 Rf8 32. Rd3 Rc7 33. a4 Kg7 34. Kc1 Rf4 35. Rxf4 exf4 36. c3 Bg1 37. h3 Kf6 38. Kd1 Be3 39. Ke2 Rc5 40. Bd7 Ke7 41. Bb5 Rc7 42. Rd1 Kf6 43. Kf1 Kg5 44. Kg2 Kh4 45. Kh2 Re7 46. Bd3 Re5 47. Bb5 Bb6 48. Bf1 Rg5 49. Bg2 h5 50. Bf1 Bg1+ 51. Kh1 Be3 52. Kh2 Rg1 53. b4 b6 54. Re1 g5 0-1 [Event "corr W-18ch"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2003.06.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Van Kempen, Heinz Erich"] [Black "Spitz, Patrick"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2554"] [BlackElo "2548"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "72"] [EventDate "2003.06.01"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. g4 h6 11. O-O-O b5 12. h4 Nb6 13. Qf2 Nfd7 14. Kb1 Rc8 15. Nd5 Nc4 16. Bc1 Ndb6 17. Nxe7 Qxe7 18. Nd2 Na4 19. Nxc4 bxc4 20. Qe3 O-O 21. g5 h5 22. Ka1 Rc6 23. Qa3 Nc5 24. Bd2 a5 25. Rh2 Rb8 26. c3 a4 27. Be3 Ra6 28. g6 fxg6 29. Be2 Kh7 30. Kb1 Ra5 31. Bf1 Qc7 32. Kc1 Nd3+ 33. Bxd3 cxd3 34. Rxd3 d5 35. Bg5 Qc4 36. Rhd2 dxe4 0-1 [Event "corr W-18ch"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "2003.06.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Van Kempen, Heinz Erich"] [Black "Van Oosterom, Joop J"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2554"] [BlackElo "2725"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "84"] [EventDate "2003.06.01"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 O-O 10. O-O-O Qc7 11. g4 Nbd7 12. g5 Nh5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. exd5 a5 15. Kb1 a4 16. Nc1 f6 17. g6 hxg6 18. Qg2 a3 19. Qxg6 axb2 20. Nb3 f5 21. Bh3 Nb6 22. Qxh5 Nc4 23. Bxf5 Rxf5 24. Qxf5 Nxe3 25. Qd3 Nc4 26. Nd2 Nxd2+ 27. Rxd2 Qa5 28. a3 Qc5 29. Kxb2 e4 30. Qb3 Bg5 31. Re2 Bf6+ 32. c3 exf3 33. Rd2 Re8 34. Ka2 b5 35. Rc2 Kh7 36. Rhc1 Re3 37. Rb2 Bxc3 38. Qxb5 Qd4 39. Rbc2 Kh6 40. h4 Re2 41. Kb3 Bd2 42. Rf1 Qe3+ 0-1

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: [Event "CADAP Championship 15 Final"] [Site "ICCF Email"] [Date "2002.07.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Bernardino, Zelio (BRA)"] [Black "Walsh, Hector (ARG)"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2571"] [BlackElo "2417"] [ECO "B66"] [PlyCount "66"] [EventDate "2002.??.??"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O h6 9. Be3 Bd7 10. f3 b5 11. g4 Ne5 12. Bd3 b4 13. Nce2 d5 14. Ng3 Qc7 15. Kb1 Nc4 16. Qe2 Nxe3 17. Qxe3 Bd6 18. Rhe1 Bf4 19. Qe2 dxe4 20. Bxe4 Rb8 21. Qxa6 O-O 22. Qf1 Rfc8 23. Qf2 Nxe4 24. Rxe4 Bd6 25. Nb3 Ra8 26. Rd2 Be7 27. Ne2 Bc6 28. Rc4 Qb7 29. Nec1 Qa6 30. Rcd4 e5 31. R4d3 Bg5 32. Rd1 e4 33. Rd4 e3 0-1 [Event "ICCF Jubilee Officials/GM-B"] [Site "ICCF Email"] [Date "2001.11.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Fuzishawa, Richard Mitsuo (BRA)"] [Black "Schmelz, Thomas (GER)"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2453"] [BlackElo "2465"] [ECO "B96"] [PlyCount "126"] [EventDate "2001.??.??"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qc7 8. Qf3 b5 9. Bd3 b4 10. Nce2 Nbd7 11. O-O Bb7 12. Kh1 Be7 13. c3 bxc3 14. Nxc3 h6 15. Bh4 g5 16. Bf2 gxf4 17. Rad1 Rg8 18. Bc2 Rc8 19. Qxf4 e5 20. Qxh6 Bf8 21. Qh3 exd4 22. Bxd4 Rg6 23. Qf5 Bg7 24. b4 Ne5 25. Ba4+ Kf8 26. Nd5 Bxd5 27. exd5 Kg8 28. Bxe5 dxe5 29. Bb3 Qb7 30. Rf3 e4 31. Rf2 Rh6 32. d6 Rd8 33. Qc5 e3 34. Rf4 e2 35. Re1 Qd7 36. Rxe2 Rc8 37. Qg1 Qxd6 38. g3 Qd7 39. Qf1 Nh5 40. Rf3 Qb7 41. Bxf7+ Qxf7 42. Rxf7 Nxg3+ 43. Kg2 Nxf1 44. Rxf1 Rc4 45. a3 Rc3 46. Ra2 Rb3 47. Kh1 Kh7 48. Rg1 Bd4 49. Rd1 Be5 50. Re1 Rg6 51. Rg2 Bf6 52. Ra2 Bd4 53. Rd1 Kh6 54. Rg2 Bf6 55. Rxg6+ Kxg6 56. Rd5 Rxa3 57. Kg2 Ra4 58. Rd6 Kf7 59. Rb6 Bd8 60. Rb7+ Ke6 61. Kf3 Kd6 62. Rg7 Be7 63. Ke3 Kd7 0-1

Jan-30-07		Zebra: <TheAlchemist: I don't like 5...e6 here because of 6.g4> That is certainly one good reason. I also feel that 5...e6 is not the most flexible move here, unless we have some desire to reach the Modern Scheveningen (which I haven't noticed so far, and have no particular wish for myself). 5...Nc6 is a bit more flexible but still rules out a Najdorf, which again seems to go against the views of many team members. So it looks very much like 5 ...a6 or ...g6. I am personally pretty happy with either taking our chances in a probable Yugoslav Dragon or threading our way through the permutations after ...a6.

Jan-30-07		hitman84: <TheAlchemist>Is it gonna be a Najdorf or Dragon ? You might want to add this link in your bio http://www.chessclub.com/chessviewe... Its a PGN viewer. Btw, Where is <chessmoron> ?

Jan-30-07		hitman84: <TheAlchemist>How did you get those games ? See if you can find Bg5 Najdorf games.

Jan-30-07		Zebra: I have been looking back in the kibbitzing to try and get an impression of the balance of opinion at the moment, which looks - well, balanced I suppose. I may well have missed some however. for Najdorf: <Rocafella> (strongly), <Jess> (less strongly), <chessmoron> (at least anti-Dragon) undecided: <the Alchemist>, <hitman> (good at both, pretends not to know any theory ;)), <Zebra> just plain undecided, <dakgootje> happy with both For Dragon: <Marco>, <TTLump> (however prefers dragon with a6), <swapmeet> Is that about right at this stage?

Jan-30-07		Zebra: By the way, are any of you members of ICC? What do you think of it (as compared for example with Gameknot, which is where I usually play)?

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: <hitman84> Here: http://gamesarchive.iccf.com/ I went through the 2006 games briefly and only looked at Black's wins first, most of the Bg5 Najdorf went into the Poisoned pawn variation (Qb6), but with White playing Nb3 instead of Qd2. I'll try and look for some games, but it's a lot of them :-)

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: All right, some more: [Event "corr CXEB-Jub35 A"] [Site "CXEB Email"] [Date "2004.02.14"] [Round "?"] [White "Mesquita, Fausto Monteiro Jr"] [Black "Krzyzanowski, Wojciech"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2448"] [BlackElo "2506"] [ECO "B95"] [PlyCount "84"] [EventDate "2004.02.14"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [EventCountry "BRA"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.12.17"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qf3 Be7 8. O-O-O Nbd7 9. h4 Qc7 10. g4 b5 11. a3 Rb8 12. Bf4 Ne5 13. Bxe5 dxe5 14. Nb3 b4 15. axb4 Bxb4 16. g5 Nd7 17. h5 Bb7 18. Rh3 Rc8 19. Qg4 O-O 20. h6 g6 21. Rhd3 Rfd8 22. Qf3 Bc6 23. Be2 a5 24. Nd2 Be7 25. Qg3 Bb5 26. Re3 Bxe2 27. Rxe2 a4 28. Ndb1 Nb6 29. Na3 Rxd1+ 30. Nxd1 Nc4 31. Nxc4 Qxc4 32. Qxe5 Bxg5+ 33. Qxg5 Qxe2 34. c3 Qh5 35. Qd2 Qh4 36. Qd7 Rd8 37. Qxa4 Qxh6+ 38. Ne3 Qh2 39. Nd1 Qf4+ 40. Kb1 h5 41. c4 Qxe4+ 42. Kc1 h4 0-1 [Event "corr CXEB-Jub35 A"] [Site "CXEB Email"] [Date "2004.02.14"] [Round "?"] [White "Cleto, Fernando de Almeida"] [Black "Ferreira, Natalino Constancio"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2545"] [BlackElo "2452"] [ECO "B66"] [PlyCount "64"] [EventDate "2004.02.14"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [EventCountry "BRA"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.12.17"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O h6 9. Be3 Be7 10. f3 Nxd4 11. Bxd4 b5 12. Kb1 Rb8 13. Ba7 Rb7 14. Be3 O-O 15. h4 b4 16. Ne2 d5 17. e5 Nd7 18. f4 Nc5 19. Nd4 a5 20. g4 Ne4 21. Qg2 Qb6 22. Ka1 Bc5 23. g5 h5 24. g6 a4 25. gxf7+ Rbxf7 26. Rg1 a3 27. b3 Qc7 28. Nb5 Qe7 29. Nd4 Rxf4 30. Qg6 Qc7 31. c3 Bb6 32. Bc4 dxc4 0-1 [Event "corr CXEB-Jub35 A"] [Site "CXEB Email"] [Date "2004.02.14"] [Round "?"] [White "Cerqueira Filho, Reginaldo de Castro"] [Black "Cipolli, Antonio Carlos Rodr"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2481"] [BlackElo "2504"] [ECO "B80"] [PlyCount "104"] [EventDate "2004.02.14"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [EventCountry "BRA"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.12.17"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 Nc6 8. Qd2 Be7 9. g4 O-O 10. O-O-O Nxd4 11. Qxd4 Nd7 12. h4 Ne5 13. Be2 b5 14. Kb1 Rb8 15. h5 b4 16. Na4 Bd7 17. f4 Bxa4 18. fxe5 Qc7 19. exd6 Bxd6 20. Qc4 a5 21. g5 Qxc4 22. Bxc4 Be7 23. Bd3 Bb5 24. h6 g6 25. e5 Rfc8 26. Be4 Rc4 27. Bf3 a4 28. Rd2 a3 29. Re1 axb2 30. Rg2 Rc3 31. Kxb2 Ra3 32. Rg4 Rc8 33. Bb7 Rc4 34. Rxc4 Bxc4 35. Bd2 Rxa2+ 36. Kb1 b3 37. cxb3 Rxd2 38. bxc4 Rd4 39. Ba6 Bxg5 40. c5 Ra4 41. Bd3 Ra5 42. c6 Rc5 43. Be4 Bxh6 44. Re2 Bf4 45. Rc2 Rxc2 46. Kxc2 Bxe5 47. Kd2 h5 48. Ke3 g5 49. Bd3 f5 50. Kf2 g4 51. Kf1 Kf7 52. Kg2 Bc7 0-1 This one is very good: [Event "corr CXEB-Jub35 A"] [Site "CXEB Email"] [Date "2004.02.14"] [Round "?"] [White "Cerqueira Filho, Reginaldo de Castro"] [Black "Almiron, Luis"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2481"] [BlackElo "2485"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "58"] [EventDate "2004.02.14"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [EventCountry "BRA"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.12.17"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. Qd2 Nbd7 9. f3 b5 10. O-O-O Be7 11. g4 O-O 12. g5 b4 13. Ne2 Ne8 14. h4 a5 15. Kb1 a4 16. Nbc1 Nb6 17. Ng3 d5 18. f4 exf4 19. Bxf4 Nd6 20. Bg2 b3 21. cxb3 axb3 22. Nxb3 Qd7 23. Nc1 d4 24. e5 Nb5 25. Bxa8 Rxa8 26. Qe2 Bc4 27. Rd3 Qe6 28. Rf1 Bxa2+ 29. Kc2 Bc4 0-1

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: [Event "corr CXEB-Jub30 A"] [Site "CXEB"] [Date "1999.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "Haufe, Werner"] [Black "De Cresce, Salvador Homce"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2495"] [BlackElo "2483"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "86"] [EventDate "1999.12.31"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [EventCountry "BRA"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.12.17"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. g4 h6 11. O-O-O b5 12. h4 Nb6 13. Qf2 Nfd7 14. Kb1 Qc7 15. Nd5 Bxd5 16. exd5 Nc4 17. Bc1 Qb6 18. Qe1 a5 19. a3 a4 20. Na1 Qc5 21. f4 Rb8 22. Rh3 b4 23. axb4 Rxb4 24. Rc3 Ndb6 25. b3 O-O 26. Be3 Qa5 27. Bxc4 axb3 28. cxb3 Ra8 29. Bxb6 Qxa1+ 30. Kc2 Qa2+ 31. Kd3 Rxb6 32. Rd2 Qa7 33. Re2 Bf6 34. Rc1 Rxb3+ 35. Bxb3 Qd4+ 36. Kc2 Rc8+ 37. Kb1 Qd3+ 38. Rcc2 Qxb3+ 39. Kc1 Qa3+ 40. Kb1 Ra8 41. Ra2 Qd3+ 42. Kc1 Rxa2 43. Rxa2 Qc4+ 0-1 [Event "corr W-19ch ct05"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "1999.04.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Cardelli, Gabriel"] [Black "Hjort, Bo"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2541"] [BlackElo "2510"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "88"] [EventDate "1999.04.01"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] [WhiteTeam "USA"] [BlackTeam "Wales"] [WhiteTeamCountry "USA"] [BlackTeamCountry "WLS"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Nbd7 9. Qd2 Be7 10. g4 h6 11. O-O-O b5 12. h4 Nb6 13. Qf2 Rb8 14. Nc5 Bc8 15. Kb1 Qc7 16. Nd3 Nc4 17. Nb4 Nxe3 18. Qxe3 Bb7 19. a3 Qc5 20. Qd2 Kf8 21. Nd3 Qb6 22. Bg2 a5 23. Ne2 b4 24. axb4 axb4 25. Nec1 Ba6 26. Bf1 Bc4 27. Nb3 g6 28. Be2 Kg7 29. Qe1 Rhc8 30. Bf1 Bxb3 31. cxb3 Qa5 32. Rc1 Ra8 33. Rxc8 Qa2+ 34. Kc2 Rxc8+ 35. Kd2 Qxb3 36. Qd1 Qc4 37. Qc1 Qe6 38. Qd1 b3 39. Ke1 Rc2 40. Be2 d5 41. Nf2 dxe4 42. fxe4 Bc5 43. Nd3 Bb6 44. Rh2 Nxe4 0-1 [Event "corr W-19ch ct05"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "1999.04.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Cardelli, Gabriel"] [Black "Kazoks, Aivars E"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2541"] [BlackElo "2446"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "86"] [EventDate "1999.04.01"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] [WhiteTeam "USA"] [BlackTeam "Wales"] [WhiteTeamCountry "USA"] [BlackTeamCountry "WLS"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. g4 Rc8 11. O-O-O b5 12. g5 Nh5 13. Rg1 O-O 14. Qf2 Qc7 15. Nd5 Bxd5 16. exd5 f5 17. gxf6 Rxf6 18. Bd3 Nf4 19. Be4 a5 20. Qd2 a4 21. Nd4 a3 22. Bxf4 axb2+ 23. Kxb2 exd4 24. Bg5 Ra8 25. Qxd4 Ra4 26. Qe3 Ne5 27. Qb3 Nc4+ 28. Kb1 Rf8 29. Bxe7 Qxe7 30. c3 Qa7 31. Rge1 Qf2 32. Ka1 Rfa8 33. Bb1 Ra3 34. Rf1 Qxh2 35. Rh1 Qg2 36. Rhg1 Rxb3 37. Rxg2 Ne3 38. Rdg1 Nxg2 39. Rxg2 Rxc3 40. Be4 b4 41. Kb1 b3 42. axb3 Rxb3+ 43. Kc1 Ra1+ 0-1

Jan-30-07		TheAlchemist: [Event "corr W-19ch ct05"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "1999.04.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Hjort, Bo"] [Black "Nimtz, Manfred"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2510"] [BlackElo "2616"] [ECO "B99"] [PlyCount "116"] [EventDate "1999.04.01"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] [WhiteTeam "USA"] [BlackTeam "Wales"] [WhiteTeamCountry "USA"] [BlackTeamCountry "WLS"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Nbd7 8. Qf3 Qc7 9. O-O-O b5 10. Bd3 Bb7 11. Rhe1 Be7 12. Kb1 h6 13. Bh4 b4 14. Nce2 Nc5 15. Ng3 O-O 16. Nh5 Nxh5 17. Qxh5 a5 18. Bxe7 Qxe7 19. e5 Rfd8 20. Bc4 Ne4 21. exd6 Rxd6 22. Nf3 a4 23. Qe5 Rc8 24. Rxd6 Nxd6 25. Bd3 Nc4 26. Bxc4 Rxc4 27. b3 axb3 28. axb3 Rc5 29. Qd4 Rd5 30. Qb6 Rd6 31. Qa5 Ra6 32. Qe5 Qd8 33. Qb5 Qa8 34. Qe5 Bd5 35. Qd4 Qb7 36. Re3 Ra8 37. Ne1 Qa6 38. g4 Qf1 39. g5 h5 40. h4 Qh1 41. Qxb4 Qxh4 42. Nd3 Qh2 43. Kb2 Rc8 44. Ne1 Qf2 45. Rd3 Ra8 46. Rh3 g6 47. Rd3 h4 48. Qc3 Qxf4 49. Rd4 Qxg5 50. Qh3 Qf6 51. Qxh4 Qxh4 52. Rxh4 f5 53. Nd3 Rc8 54. c4 Be4 55. Kc3 Bxd3 56. Kxd3 e5 57. b4 e4+ 58. Kc3 Re8 0-1 [Event "corr W-19ch ct05"] [Site "ICCF"] [Date "1999.04.01"] [Round "?"] [White "Kazoks, Aivars E"] [Black "Van Kempen, Heinz Erich"] [Result "0-1"] [WhiteElo "2446"] [BlackElo "2561"] [ECO "B90"] [PlyCount "66"] [EventDate "1999.04.01"] [EventType "tourn (corr)"] [Source "ICCF Archive"] [SourceDate "2006.04.30"] [WhiteTeam "USA"] [BlackTeam "Wales"] [WhiteTeamCountry "USA"] [BlackTeamCountry "WLS"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 Be7 9. Qd2 Nbd7 10. g4 Rc8 11. O-O-O b5 12. g5 Nh5 13. Nd5 Bxd5 14. exd5 Nb6 15. Na5 Nxd5 16. Qxd5 Qxa5 17. Bh3 Rc4 18. Bg4 O-O 19. Bxh5 Qxa2 20. Bg4 g6 21. h4 Bd8 22. Qxd6 Qa1+ 23. Kd2 Qxb2 24. Ke2 Rxc2+ 25. Kf1 Bc7 26. Qd3 Rd8 27. Qxd8+ Bxd8 28. Rxd8+ Kg7 29. f4 Qb4 30. Rh3 Qe4 31. Rg3 b4 32. fxe5 b3 33. Bd1 Qc4+ 0-1 Ok, basically we can see, that against 6.Be3 in the Najdorf the top players prefer 6...e5 with 7..Be6 etc. giving exciting play with opposite side castling and even having good prospects in the endgame. The poisoned pawn variation is also popular with Black (6.Bg5 Qb6), but White usually chose the tame 7.Nb3, something I seriously doubt we could get should we decide for the poisoned pawn. I only found one Dragon game where Black won, but that was because White withdrew from the tournament. I guess it's not really popular.

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