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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: In teh database <8.Nxc6> was played as well: Opening Explorer and even <8.Nd5> (S Melia vs N Dzagnidze, 2005), but this seems highly unlikely to appear in our game. |
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| Feb-09-07 | | Zebra: A question about 8.f3 Nf6. This seems to mean we face the English Attack a tempo down, or rather having been forced to invest a tempo in Nc6, where the knight doesn't really belong in the Najdorf. Or is that a good place for the knight in this variation? |
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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: Well, take Leko vs Kasparov, 2003 for instance (we can transpose to it via 8.f3 Nf6 9.Be3 e6). I remember reading the commentary to the game that the positions resulting from Nbd7 were too analyzed, and that even Garry seems to have been tired of it. |
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| Feb-09-07 | | Zebra: Thanks, that is a good answer. Personally I am fine with the knight on c6 anyway, it's just that I don't know much English Attack theory and was worried that there might be some problem with it. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Captain> I'm just hitting the sack here. <Patterson Sasquatch film> You can watch an excellent quality video of the whole thing, slowed down frame by frame, on the Net. It's quite something. I'll post the link for you tomorrow in case you want to look at it. <Analysis> You've done a great deal of work here, thank you from me, and from one and all, I'm certain. I will carefully play through everything you've posted in your profile and on this forum page tomorrow when I get up. See all of you anon then.
Paix, tous les monde |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Very Brief Natural History Lesson:
<Why Zebras make good chess analysts> They are cautious, always alert, can run very fast, have fantastic endurance, and, when need be, they can cut you to pieces with their hooves or kick your freaking face off. Source: <National Geographic Video> |
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| Feb-09-07 | | Marco65: <ThaAlchemist> Very good recap captain! About the game you submitted: in fact the caption reads "Scheveningen" and not Najdorf. I took some time to have a look at all diagrams in the excellent "Easy guide to Najdorf", with two conclusions: 1. Black main line is always ...e5 except against Bg5 or Bc4, this echoes what I already posted after Sam Collins: "there are only a few situations in the Najdorf where 6...e5 isn't a good idea, and these generally occur when White has tried to seize control over d5 (with 6 Bc4 or 6 Bg5, for instance)" 2. When Black plays ...e5, she/he never combines that with ...Nc6. The only exceptions I found are when White has already played a4 and therefore a knight on c6 is useful to control a5 and b4. On the other hand, ...e6 and ...Nc6 appear often together. I'm afraid our urge to avoid a repetition made us play a move that is actually very committal. I now agree to enter a Scheveningen with ...Nf6 and ...e6 against 8.Be2 and 8.h3, while ...Qb6 is to be tried against 8.f3. I would never vote a Najdorf if I knew it had to end like that! Uffa! (You know what I mean!) |
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| Feb-09-07 | | Zebra: A good summary, <Marco>, and I agree with your conclusions. <Jess> Not all zebras are cautious. Some of them thrive on chaos and confusion. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: kk I went through all the new stuff on screen and over my board, and I don't have anything analytically relevant to add to <Marco's> summing up. Opinion, however: I don't see any particular problem with playing a <Schveningen>, way back on the first pages I noted that the <Schven> is really a version of the <Naj> anyways, I think they are both sound for black. Our Ng4 can't be considered a waste of time, since we didn't lose a tempo and we also found something out with this Knightly Probe- the other team is more apt to be cautious. Be3 was cautious (avoiding sharp kingside lines where we might develop g and h pawns while chasing their bishop (ie: Topalov, Kasparov with black) Bc1 (although Anand won with it) is even more cautious. So Ng4 gave us valuable information about MGO psychology. I think we should continue to probe and challenge when safe-- and I think we can continue to do that from a <Schven>. Please, everyone (including me), lets take the time we have to look a few moves past the options laid out by <Marco>? I agree also with his conclusions, as I said, so we have a good template from which to look at possible continuations from the moves <Marco> suggests... |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Zebra> So the relation between a <chaos> zebra and a <regular> zebra is similar to the relation between a <koala bear> and a <drop bear>? (click on <hitman's> first <uncyclopedia> link for a hilarious article on the <drop bear>) |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: For our <Captain> and anyone else who wants to see: Enhanced frame by frame video of the <Patterson Sasquatch>: http://www.bigfootencounters.com/fi... |
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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: Thanks! |
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| Feb-09-07 | | chessmoron: <8.Be2> <8.f3> <8.h3> could ALL go to 8...Qb6 BTW. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <Jessica> I had a look at your game at Domdaniel chessforum, I think you played quite well for the better part (you are really aggressive aren't you? I like that :-)), the probably only real major improvement was the already suggested 17.Na4, although you were probably better anyway. It's great how sometimes things work out for you without you even knowing it, it happens to me often as well (when I think I've overlooked a mate, but then see that it's somehow miraculously defended against :-)). Nice job! BTW, a suggestion, you may want to put your comments in brackets - personally I od it like (<comments>), so it's both easier to distinguish between the moves and possible variations and it's easier to just copy and paste the game to a pgn viewer (I use WinBoard), especially for longer games. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <for all>
<Domdaniel> has published one of his games in his forum, it you care to have a look/comment. |
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| Feb-09-07 | | themadhair: <All student groups improved after listening to the CD> This reminds me of one of those dodgy documentaries featuring oddball martial arts a right while back. I can't remember the name of the martial art, but the idea was to be able 'psyche out' an enemy. They did a before and after test. The idea is that you are blindfolded and you have to try and predict when your would-be enemy was attacking you. You were scored on how accurately you did this. After taking the initial test and then under going a grueling training regime the test was taken again. In all case there was a substantial improvement. Now my theory is that in this case a person taking the test for the second time would still score better even if they had had no training. I was wondering if it would be the case here - that students would still score better in their second test regardless of the music. Maybe a control for future tests?? |
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| Feb-09-07 | | hitman84: <I'm afraid our urge to avoid a repetition made us play a move that is actually very committal. I now agree to enter a Scheveningen with ...Nf6 and ...e6 against 8.Be2 and 8.h3, while ...Qb6 is to be tried against 8.f3.> <Marco>S Wagman vs B Gruzmann, 2005 I prefer this line for 8.h3
V Laznicka vs A Czebe, 2005
The game looks dry..
10...Qd1 is dubious.
He moved the queen three times in the opening only to exchange it at d1 - loss of tempo. How about 10...h5
11.Bh5 Qe5 pseudo threat on h2.
11.Qd4 Nd4 12.Bd1 e6 13.Be3 Nc6
Black's idea is to castle(since h5 will be hanging we first need to play g6) on the king side and operate on the Qeen side by carrying out a minority attack. Our dark square Bishop is very important. Once we place it on f6, we can own the diagonal but for this to happen we need to guard d6. I dont see a good plan for white after the queens are off. In the game black starts rolling the pawns a bit too early allowing Nd5. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <themadhair> I tend to agree. I think having a past experience helps you when taking the test for the second time (if you study before both of them). But since in this case it was just about the basics, and since the songs are supposed to cover all of that, it probably did play a role in the results improving, although I don't think it was the only factor. If only it were that easy! :-) Personally, I often take a test for the first time just to get a feel (I of course study before, but don't "exaggerate") and it has always helped me the second time, I get a feel for the types of questions, time management, etc. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Captain> Thanks tons for analyzing my game and for the formatting tips.. <Hitman> food for thought!!! Got my board and pieces out already, just went through <Dom's> game in his forum, will now look at your newly posted stuff... |
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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <Jessica> No problem, I'm here to help! :-) Ok, to be a little conceited, if you have the time, you can look at a game of mine where I did well for a change: ? |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Captain> I'd love to go through one of your games. Helps me learn, it was very instructive for me to play through <Mack's> game in his forum and <Dom's> as well... I don't think it's conceited to post games one is proud of, your peers will root for you and also help through analysis... |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Hitman> <Wagman- Gruzman> Very nice- the g4 outpost Knight travels e5, g6, and Black looks very, very good at this point... |
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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <hitman84> I like your h5 idea and the resulting plan, although with the bishop on f6, d6 would really be hard to cover (maybe by putting the King on e7?). BTW, what do we do in case of 14.Na4 in your variation? We can't really stop Nb6, which will tie our queenside down. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Hitman> <Laznicka- Czebe> Agreed- I don't like Qb6 after Be2-- They can initiate exchange with Bxg4 that leads to Queens coming off and a very drawish position... I played through the game without knowing the result, thought <draw> as soon as the Queens came off, and lo and behold-- Draw. I don't want to draw against MFO.
I want to obliterate them, burn their villages and sow salt into their fields, like Rome did to Carthage... |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: BTW I got a million chessbucks sez they play Be2. |
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