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Feb-09-07
 | | TheAlchemist: Black did well in S Wagman vs B Gruzmann, 2005, one thing we have to be aware of is also that we would practically be on our own very soon if we follow it, which isn't necessarily bad. I find White's attacking strategy on the Kingside a little suspicious there. |
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Feb-09-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Captain> I think being <on our own> sooner than later is good also. As I said in my post about our Ng4 adventure, I think MFO is a bit on the timid side and quite likely wanting to stay in book as long as possible, for "safety" reasons. |
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Feb-09-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Captain> I just now got your joke with the ? as a hyperlink... very subtle humor there... lol Look forward to playing through your game. |
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| Feb-09-07 | | Marco65: <hitman84> I don't like where the knight ends in S Wagman vs B Gruzmann, 2005. White might play more aggressively by castling queenside and initiate a pawn storm on the kingside facilitated by the position of the black knight, e.g. 10.f4 Ng6?! 11.h4 (just to give the idea, maybe this can be better prepared). Maybe better for Black is to exchange knights after f4 is played, for instance 10.f4 Nxd4 11.Qxd4 Nc6 12.Qf2 but White is ahead in development. 10...h5 in V Laznicka vs A Czebe, 2005 seems a good idea, it gives new life to 8.Be2 Qb6 ! |
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| Feb-09-07 | | Marco65: I see now tons of posts arrived while I was preparing mine, it seems people like that knight tour Ng4-e5-g6. That's the fun of a consultation game! Let's start fighting for our views! Well... maybe tomorrow (yawn) |
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Feb-09-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: LOL <Marco> we have diametrically opposed views on the two games <Hitman> posted. And after we lobbied so hard for Ng4!! Well, we have time to consult. What fun this is!! |
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Feb-09-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Team> I have my own forum now, so all are super welcome to come spam me! Spam, spam spammmmmmmmm!
Bloody Vikings... |
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| Feb-10-07 | | hitman84: <14.Na4 in your variation?>Our Light square bishop is not that important and black will be losing enough tempos in the variation to exchange our undeveloped bishop on c8 besides our ♖ takes up a
favourable file after Rc8.
BUT then what if the N just squats there on b6 ? I did'nt think about this. I'll look into it deeper. <S Wagman vs B Gruzmann, 2005>Well, I agree with you Marco and will look into it deeper. |
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| Feb-10-07 | | hitman84: Re: <14.Na4 in your variation?> 11.Qd4 Nd4 12.Bd1 e6 13.Be3 Nc6 14.Na4 b5 15.Nb6 Rb8 16.a4 leads to the same continuation as in the game but we have h5 and is of no use. Here is another line..
11.Qd4 Nd4 12.Bd1 Be6 13.Nd5 Rc8 14.c3 Nc6 15.Nb6 Rc7 16.f4 Na5 seems playable.. I'm thinking of another line...
10...Be6 instead of 10...h5
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| Feb-10-07 | | Marco65: <jessicafischerqueen> Hey what's that avatar? You left me as the only non-premium member in the team! |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Rocafella: <jessicafischerqueen> Is it not like, Kent: Professor would you say it's time for people to start panicking and feeding off others? Professer: Yes I would Kent |
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Feb-10-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Rocafella> lol yep that's a good one, as you know it's a running joke on <simpsons> How's the <family fortune> going? Are you the sole heir now? I think I'm now inadverntently the one true heir to the throne of <France>, but the historical details are a little hazy... |
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Feb-10-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Marco65> git yerself a forum too, Holmes!! I played with the <Opening Explorer> for hours last night... Even found some material relevent to our game here, but others have already found and, I believe, posted all of the games left in our current position? Please, can anyone let me know the link to a good free chess database I can download? The <Chessmaster> database is CRAP, and I can see others are posting games not in the <CG> database. Any help would be much appreicated... |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Zebra: <Jess> Congratulations on your premium membership. I joined nearly a year ago, largely for the Opening Explorer, and it was money well spent. I had an all-nighter last night, so any thoughts I may post about our game should be taken with a pinch of aspirin. Just away for a few hours and <Jess> has a new chessforum and Newcastle have beaten Liverpool. I prefer this to being sober any day. |
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Feb-10-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Zebra> What an incredible coincidence!! I just watched a fantastic soccer movie called <Goal> last night, in which <Newcastle> beats <Liverpool> in the last match of the season to qualify for the <European Cup>!! That's downright spooky... |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Rocafella: <family fortune>? lol |
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Feb-10-07
| | TheAlchemist: The chickens have played 8.h3 |
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Feb-10-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: LOL <Alchemist> was just thinking exactly the same thing. That's THREE TIMID MOVES in a row for them. I think we have a clear psychological edge at this point... h3, h3, h33333333333333333!! |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Marco65: 8.h3? I was really afraid of 8.Be2. Now, I haven't seen hitman84's conclusions, but I still think 8...Nge5 is a bad idea, especially if the intention is 9.f4 Ng6. Can anyone tell me what our knight is going to do in g6? No influence on the center, just a target for White pawns. Note this is not the same as the white knight often ending in b3 in the Najdorf: Black doesn't have any more the c-pawn, and the a-pawn can't be pushed ahead without losing control of b5. And the Nb3 sometimes comes back to life via a5 - c6. If we play 8...Nf6 we might enter a Scheveningen one tempo ahead if the game goes 9.g4 h6 10.Rg1 e6 11.h4. IMO the only acceptable variation for White is 9.g4 h6 10.Bg2 e6 reaching a position that could arise from the Keres Attack after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.g4 h6 7.h3 Nc6 8.Bg2 a6. 7.h3 is not the mainline, and Sam Collins' "Understanding the chess openings" (again) comments it in a sidenote: "7.h3 is also very interesting, trying to gain a tempo on conventional fianchetto systems". I don't understand what he means, imo White hasn't gained any tempo, but the very fact that we stop our opponents' ambition of a pawn storm on the kingside makes me happy. |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Marco65: 3 games in the CG database:
I Nepomniachtchi vs V Popov, 2006
Movsesian vs Ftacnik, 1998
Movsesian vs A Mas Hafizulhelmi, 1997 |
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Feb-10-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: <Marco65> so reassuring to see your mighty brain instantly on the case. I also thought Be2 was MUCH better for white...
They are timid. But we should still play them as if they were <Topalov>, hence thank god for your new analysis. I'm going thru the three games you posted there now.
Jesster Queen |
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Feb-10-07
| | jessicafischerqueen: Shooting from hip before doing any new actual work, my fingers want to play Nf3 on my board here... But, to work. |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Swapmeet: It looks like our options here are Nf6, Nge5, Qb6. Personally I like the look of the latter, so I'll look into that a bit more. |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Marco65: <jessicafischerqueen> None of the games seem to follow my ideas, which may mean 2 things: 1. Maybe the ideas are right, and there are simply too few games in CG to draw any conclusion from them 2. My brain (which you're the only one who considers it "mighty", thanks!) is trying to grasp from the few available books how a Scheveningen should be played, but had better get some sleep now :( |
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| Feb-10-07 | | Rocafella: Isn't Qb6 a losing move |
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