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Feb-28-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Marco> The time out was a brilliant idea because we were going to move <12.o-o> already anyways, but now we are inestimably better prepared for it thanks to the extra analysis. This is very good for us... Plus, I still believe that: Now we can better defend our kingside, we know our king will not be trapped in the center, and we can begin queenside expansion-- they will castle long, of course. In other words, we have something of a plan, if I'm reading all our previous posts correctly. I will continue work on refutations of <13.f4>, thanks <Marco> I will start with analysis from the position you last referred to in your response to my previous <13.f4> analysis. Since I'm going to focus my work on a possible <13.f4>, perhaps others of us could work on other White Candidate moves for <13.?> |
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| Mar-01-07 | | brankat: <jessica> <Since I'm going to focus my work on a possible <13.f4>, > No more homework, term papers, exams, professors, damn schools ? :-) Free At Last!?? |
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| Mar-01-07 | | Elixir of Life: You guys forgot this : filler |
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| Mar-01-07 | | Marco65: <Free At Last!?> I never feel more free (or should it be "freeer"?) than when I have time to study chess! <Jessica> I have no time for new analysis but before the deadline I still examined 12...O-O 13.f4 finding something new (that of course doesn't change the evaluation of O-O or I would have posted it) Let's first sum up the old stuff.
13.f4 e5 is premature imo: 14.Nf5 exf4 15.Bxf4 Nde5 16.Nd5 is something we shouldn't allow <13.f4 Nxd4> (this is considered a good idea at least by me and TheAlchemist if I remember well) <14.Qxd4> (seems more threatening than Bxd4) <b5> (alternatives can be considered here as well) and now: 15.O-O-O received a lot of attention by hitman84 and is probably best, although more critical for us is to examine the consequence of an immediate kingside attack, where I suggested <15.h5> Qc7? 16.h6 e5 New stuff: this is wrong! After 17.Qd2 g6 (otherwise some file gets opened) 18.Nd5 Qd8 19.O-O-O White wins the d6 pawn. Probably ...Qc7 is not a good idea in this kind of positions. We have to play 15...Bb7 or anticipate <15...e5> and all is fine, because <16.Qd5?! Rb8 17.Ba7 Bb7 18.Qd2 Ra8> as analysed by hitman84 is only good for us. |
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| Mar-01-07 | | Elixir of Life: again, you guys should type this: filler |
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Mar-01-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <Elixir> Please stop with that, I don't think we need it, and I am against it, personally I believe in fair play and thus trust our opponents not to look at my forum. You can do that on <achieve>'s forum, so we don't see the posts on the recent kibitzing, but please don't do it here. Thanks! |
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| Mar-01-07 | | Elixir of Life: <TheAlchemist> I think that the opponent might accidentally stumble across the messages though, and I think they should be free to use the recent kibitzing feature without fearing accidentally stumbling across "secrets" |
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Mar-01-07
| | TheAlchemist: <Elixir of Life> I know, that's a risk, but filling the forum with "fillers" all over would also render it messy. I think Akavall is the only MFO player that actually comes here, plus he's played in such games before, so he knows the drill (what he can or cannot do). Anyway, I don't think we need to worry about that if we keep making good moves. But thanks for your concern, I appreciate it, really. |
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| Mar-01-07 | | Marco65: Again, I don't know what this "filler" feature is. But I agree with <TheAlchemist> that we have to trust our opponents. Also because if they want to cheat they'll switch on a chess engine rather than sneaking our analyses! |
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Mar-02-07
| | TheAlchemist: MFO also took a timeout. All according updates in my profile. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | chessmoron: <TheAlchemist> BTW I still can't figure out how to move the pieces on their site. I do know the handle and password but I don't know how to move the piece. Do we write the moves in or something else? I feel dumb by asking. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | Swapmeet: <chessmoron> There should be an option somewhere at the bottom that says "Analyze Position", that should take you to a board with moveable pieces. |
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| Mar-02-07 | | TTLump: Looking at this position reminds me of the feeling of fear I have so often of playing black in the Sicilian with White's imposing center and a pawn storm coming at me on the King side. Then I am so often surprised at how the attack seems to fizzle out (not always however!) and I come out with a winning position. I am still looking for the "fizzle" in THIS White's game! I think White's best move now is 13.g6 (I haven't seen any analysis on this move yet ...) and I have not yet found a good response to it. 13... fxg6 loses immediately to 14.Nxe6 (forking the Rook and Queen) 13...hxg6 succumbs to 14.h5! and I don't see how we can stop White's Rook Pawn from reaching the 7th rank.
(obviously NOT 14...gxh5?, else 15.Qxh5 and its all over), if 14...g5 (to prevent hxg5), then 15.h6 and now we can't play 15...gxh6 because of 16.Rxh6 or even worse, 16.Qh5! I think we need some serious work on a response 13.g6! |
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| Mar-03-07 | | Swapmeet: <TTLump>
There has been some analysis on 13.g6, which was initially my main concern with 12...0-0. I think we are alright after 13...hxg6 14.h5 Nxd4, followed by Bf6. |
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| Mar-03-07 | | Marco65: <Swapmeet> <TTLump> It was one of the two lines that concerned me about ...O-O. Yes it was analysed, although I think after 13.g6 hxg6 14.h5 Nxd4 15.Bxd4 Bf6 16.hxg6 fxg6 White actually opened lines and we have a ridicuolous pawn structure on the kingside. Better imo is 13.g6 hxg6 14.h5 g5 15.h6 g6 and 16...Bf6 to cover our weak dark squares when White shouldn't have enough compensation for the sacrificed pawn |
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Mar-03-07
| | TheAlchemist: <chessmoron> If you wish to analyze a position, you click on "Analyze position" and there you just drag and drop the pieces where you wish. |
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| Mar-03-07 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Hi guys! Sorry for not having been around much. It's because I'm still recovering from pneumonia and I can't stay on the computer very long. But I'm almost recovered now and will give my contributions after this weekend, I promise you that! :) |
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| Mar-03-07 | | Marco65: <EmperorAtauhalpa> So sorry. We miss you, but take all time you need to recover and relax! We are still preparing our army for the battle, we'll need you at full strength when the clash really begins! |
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| Mar-03-07 | | hitman84: <EA>Get well soon, mate! |
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| Mar-03-07 | | Zebra: <Marco> I agree that we should not allow Nf5. That means no ...e5 without first taking out the Nd4, and that in turn means no ...Na5. We can probably bring the other knight to c4 instead. Also I would be against ...e5 as long as Bc4 is still possible. <TTLump> I agree with <swapmeet> that 13.g6 hg should be OK, though whatever white throws at us in the next few moves is likely to be tricky. |
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| Mar-03-07 | | Zebra: filler ;) |
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Mar-03-07
| | TheAlchemist: <EA> I also wish you to recover soon, but don't hurry, you need to take your time. |
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Mar-03-07
| | TheAlchemist: They played 13.f4. Now, 1:00 PM EST is quite an uncomfortable time for me, not so much for Monday, but if we continue like this, I could have trouble making it on Friday for our 14th move. I will notify you in time and we'll arrange for a substitute to post the move. OK? |
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Mar-03-07
| | TheAlchemist: Now, about the game, my proposition from before was <13...Nxd4> 14.Qxd4 b5, and I think it remains my choice for now. |
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| Mar-03-07 | | Marco65: I'm also for <13...Nxd4>. It's the fastest way to get ...b5 in, and it's been extensively analysed. |
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