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| May-12-07 | | chessmoron: What about 29...a5 to block Nxb4? |
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| May-12-07 | | Marco65: <chessmoron> Good idea! I'll have a look at it when I have time today |
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| May-12-07 | | Elixir of Life: 'Tis a shame that there are so few people left on the team. As The World vs Yury Shulman is starting to turn out like a win for us, I'll be spending less time there. Therefore, I'd like to join the team. I can contribute maybe half an hour to an hour with analysis. I know that I've made some posts on Achieve's forum, and consulted Rybka in the process, but that was like at move 15. I haven't even looked at Rybka ever since. I haven't even peeked at MFO, not even once, either. I would like to join the team, as a substitute for hitman84. Hey, wait, there are only 2 substitutes allowed... Well, from what I heard, MFO also has a shortage of people, so perhaps we could discuss with <Akvall> to increase the number of subs. |
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| May-12-07 | | Marco65: <Elixir of life> as for me, you are more than welcome! It's particularly generous of you since you join when the position is a little compromised and we are fighting for a draw! I think <TheAlchemist> must make the decision, and if everybody agrees we have also to ask Akavall for another substitution if all subs allowed were used |
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May-12-07
 | | TheAlchemist: <Elixir of Life> Of course you are welcome, I'll try and persuade <brankat> and <MFO> to let you in. I feel lucky about our combination, yur nickname suggests you are what I've been looking for this whole time, how can we lose now? :-) |
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| May-12-07 | | dakgootje: Sorry guys, you have noticed I haven't been around here for ages, so my sincere excuses for that. Due to real life-obligations I often aren't behind my computer for days and if so barely for anything else but reading emails or giving a quick look my userforum isn't completely messed up - I don't have the heart closing it down after I refused to open it for so long. If it has any use for the team I will resign as team member, but I'm quite unaware about the number of currently active teammembers. Again, my sincere excuses, but I don't feel I could've done any better. Sorry. ~ dakkie |
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| May-12-07 | | Elixir of Life: <Team> Here is a proposal I posted on <Brankat>'s forum: <Here's a proposal: Perhaps we shall allow both teams to "reform". That is, they can change their lineup as much as they want. They can completely overhaul all 10 members if they want. <Akvall>, do you like that idea?> <TheAlchemist>
Did you know that my real name in English is a transliteration of "Elixir of Life" in Arabic? Notice that it DOES NOT MEAN "<THE> Elixir of Life". It just means "Elixir of Life". Based on this info, guess what my real name is :) Here's a short intro in case I get admitted. And I'm confident I will :) I'm a rather interesting mix, and it is sort of confusing. Ethnically, my mom is Chinese and my dad Iranian. However, both of them are American by citizenship. So you can say I'm an Chinese-Iranian American :) I currently live in China, and I'm not a very strong player. However, I'm trying to train myself to become one :) |
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May-12-07
| | TheAlchemist: <Akavall> has ok'd <Elixir of Life> joining our team, let's see now what <brankat> has to say before announcing anything officially. |
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| May-12-07 | | Zebra: Hi <dakgootje>, good to see you again. |
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| May-12-07 | | Marco65: So about 29...a5, if they get the right move order we might end in some trouble: 29...a5 30.Rg1 g6 [30...Bg6 31.Ba4  ] 31.Bf4 (now Ba4 is a threat) Bxd5 32.Bxd5 Rc8 33.Qd4 Qf8
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Although we kept the extra pawn we are very passive. I don't like our position here, but I'd like to see what the other moves produce before discarding 29...a5 |
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| May-12-07 | | Marco65: The exchange sacrifice 29...Rxc2+ invented by TheAlchemist in a similar situation fails here: 29...Rxc2+ 30.Bxc2 Bxd5 31.Qd3 g6 32.Qd4 Qe5 33.Qxe5 and 34.Rxd5  |
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| May-12-07 | | Marco65: After the move I prefer, 29...Qe5, possible moves are Nxb4, Bd4, Bf4, Re1, Rf1, Rg1... I'll examine <29...Qe5 30.Nxb4> here: 30...Ba5 31.Qd4 Bxb4 32.Qxb4 [32.Qxe5? dxe5 33.Rd8+ Bf8  ] 32...d5 33.Bd4 Qf4+ 34.Kb1 Qf5 35.Qe7 Rc8
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it seems we can resist imo |
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| May-12-07 | | chessmoron: <Marco65> Our Queen is trapped if we move 29...Qe5 from 30.Bf4. So no good. |
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| May-13-07 | | Elixir of Life: Whooopppieee!!! I can finally join the team!
After a brief glance at our current position and some analysis, I found out that one common threat black has is the pin on the black knight the white b3-square bishop can exert. So here's a suggestion: When you are particuarly bugged by that pin (or the threat of that pin), what about considering <...Kh8> as an option?? It is perhaps one of the propylaxical moves that would make our life easier. Has anyone considered <...Kh8> as an option before? |
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| May-13-07 | | Marco65: <EoL> Welcome onboard! Yes I remember I proposed it earlier, but now it would make hxg7+ just more forcing, in the best case we lost two tempi by playing ...Kg8 again <chessmoron> 29...Qe5 30.Bf4 Qf5 great position for our queen, where is the issue? |
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May-13-07
| | TheAlchemist: <EoL> We have considered it for a few moves now, maybe you can read a few pages back to get into what we've been discussing. I'm not sure about it now, however. Let's say 29...Kh8 30.hxg7+ Kg8 and it's white to move. While if we play something else, 29...? 30.hxg7 it's our move in the same position. Of course, white wants to play 30.Qd4 here, not hxg7. It's just that I think we can use this tempo better. You can analyze it and post your findings, my first impressions were often wrong, so... |
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May-13-07
| | TheAlchemist: <Of course, white wants to play 30.Qd4 here, not hxg7> Or maybe not, now that I look at it... Moves like Bd4 are also possible, Rg1 etc. hxg7 would be useful for either opening the g-file in case of Kxg7 or piling up on the Nf7 in case the king stays on g8 |
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| May-13-07 | | Marco65: Of course our problems don't go away after hxg7, but the real risk is if White is able to capture in g7 with a piece. That's why it's too late for 29...Kh8: 30.Bd4 and now Ba4 is a threat so we can't avoid Bxg7 imo. |
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| May-13-07 | | Marco65: <29...Qe5 30.Bf4> Qf5 31.Qd4 is without decent defence: 31...Bf6 32.Ne7+! Kf8 33.Nxf5 Bxd4 34.Nxd4 chessmoron was right (unfortunately), for the time being we are just left with 29...a5. Really a pity, 29...Qe5 seemed like the last opportunity to activate some piece. Please <team> find some ideas urgently! |
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May-13-07
| | TheAlchemist: I say we play Rc8. I don't want to worry about Ba4 anymore. So, 29...Rc8 30.hxg7 a5, or 30.Qd4 Qe5, 30.Nxb4 a5. 30.Qxb4?? Bxd5 |
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| May-13-07 | | Zebra: I was a bit surprised by 29.h6.
I prefer 29 ...a5 to ...Rc8. At least that way if they want to get material they will have to spend a tempo and a useful bishop to get it. After Rc8 we lose two pawns anyway. |
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| May-13-07 | | Marco65: <TheAlchemist> It gets my vote! We can sacrifice b4 with pleasure, since after 29...Rc8 30.Nxb4 a5 the knight can't take back its powerful outpost: 31.Nd5?? a4 |
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| May-13-07 | | Zebra: <Marco> Yes, you're right. |
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| May-13-07 | | Marco65: <Zebra> No I'm not: 29...Rc8 30.Nxb4 a5 31.Nd5 a4? 32.Qd4 Qe5 33.Qxe5 fxe5 34.Bxa4 Of course we don't play 31...a4 but keep that threat pending What I like of 29...Rc8 is that we don't end up so passive with our queen in f8 as with 29...a5. 29...Rc8 30.Rg1 Bg6 and we now have e4 as a good square for our queen 29...Rc8 30.Bf4 (the usual good way to prepare Qd4) 30...Bxd5 31.Bxd5 Bf6 should remove any risk on the a1-h8 diagonal forever. Of course d6 falls. We can end down one pawn in many variations, but I'm really more concerned about king's safety and piece activity. Ubi maior minor cessat. |
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| May-13-07 | | Marco65: <EoL> Since you have just entered, I remind you that the deadline is today at 5 pm EDT. I suspect it's in the dead of night for you, so remember to let us know which move you vote. |
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