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May-11-11
 | | chessgames.com: <Hesam7: <CG.com> could please organize World Championship Candidates (2011) in a manner that one can find the games more easily?> We understand your plight, and had considered making 4 separate threads, one for each match, then to make still others if tiebreaks were needed. We decided instead of lump them all together and only make a new tournament page when it comes down to the final match (and then yet another for the tiebreaks, if required). The easiest solution to help sort out the chaos is just to make sure that the dates are all correct on the game records. Then at the very least we will have a chronological account. Right now I believe there are games out of order. |
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May-11-11
| | chessgames.com: <Annie K.:Question: you guys seemed to like the idea of creating a specific forum to contact the biography admins/editors. Is the new <CG Librarian> account meant to be the address for those issues as well, or is that going to be implemented separately some day?> We still do like that idea, but the CG Librarian chessforum is not a replacement for that. Our librarian does look at biographies and sometimes makes fixes to them, but her main job is to tend to corrections (both corrections from slips and ones we find ourselves just searching the database). As far as the Biographer corner goes, we will make one soon. he simplest approach is just to make a premium account and activate it's chessforum, but we are considering making it a special feature like the Kibitzer's Cafe. With a little effort it could do some interesting things. One idea is to show information about biography editing, e.g. "The most recent biographies added", or "Recent biography changes". Another idea is to make the forum private only to those who can edit biographies, although we're not sure if that would be such a good idea. |
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May-11-11
| | chessgames.com: <crawfb5: Might one dare ask how massive <is> the backlog? :-)> The backlog for corrections at the time of this writing stands at exactly 3,579 correction slips. That figure sounds a little bit worse than it actually is, for example we often pull up a slip to find that the correction has already been made. Also we sometimes get multiple slips for the same problem, like a duplicate game may have a slip on both copies. Also some slips do not indicate any error at all. Some people use the slips for discussion that probably would be better placed in the Kibitzer's Corner. For example here is a real slip from Bird / Winawer / Blackburne vs Zukertort & Allies, 1880:
<Just wondering whether Zukertort was also present at the Wiesbaden, Germany / WSB-13Kongress. Apparently, this game was part of the consultation team event for show-off outside the main tournament.
Clicking on the links of Bird, Blackburne, etc gives a hint of hom the opponents & participants of this tournament were (the Paulsens, Schwartz, etc). The dates of the rounds suggested that the Kongress started August 1880. Perhaps a pre-cursor to some sort of team-play fide styled chess event?!> It's an interesting line of enquiry, but we can't really do anything about that other than archive it to a special directory for later reference. Now that we've announced that the corrections are being processed regularly there has been a notable increase in correction slips. Fortunately we are still keeping the figure down and finding time to chip away at the old ones. |
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May-11-11
 | | Annie K.: <cg.com> thanks for the answer. :) I'm glad to have that clarified, and very pleased to hear about your plans for a Biographer Corner with extended functionality. Sounds great, and will surely encourage members to contribute more to filling in and correcting player biographies! I agree with your reservations about a private forum, too. I have had occasion before to observe how such forums can create an unpleasant gang mentality. For example - when there's a member who interacts with the moderator (or, in this case, biographer) group, who has interesting things to contribute, but also has some irritating mannerisms - as long as the moderators are each on their own, this member's contributions will still be handled more or less as usual. But once the group gets together, gets to chatting, and suddenly discover that they ALL dislike this member... they will, pretty inevitably, start feeling more and more free to ignore and snub him. Eventually, the site loses out on these things. OK, keep up the great work and ideas! :) |
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| May-11-11 | | fear444: <chessgames.com> I have a question Sir/Ma'am. I am new to chessgames. I wanted to know that if a comment is considered inappropriate is the comment only deleted or isthe user banned from chessgames. Under such circumstances, do you e-mail this to the user?Thank you in advance,
Regards,fear444 |
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| May-12-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: When it comes to corrections, does this include double games??? Spassky vs Avtonomov, 1949
Spassky vs A Aftonov, 1949
One of these is a dupe ... I have no idea how you verify which game/spelling is correct ... if so, do you consolidate the comments/kibitzes? |
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| May-12-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: Thousands of corrections ... many must be years old ... it boggles the mind. |
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May-12-11
| | chessgames.com: <fear444> < I wanted to know that if a comment is considered inappropriate is the comment only deleted or is the user banned from chessgames. > While we may delete a handful of messages daily due to complaints, very rarely is anybody banned from Chessgames. For the vast majority of administrative actions, a post is deleted but no other action is taken. However, occasionally there is an extreme violation of rules, such a heinous obscenity or racism, or a longstanding pattern of behavior that we cannot abide. In these cases we may decide to place the user on "kibitzing probation" so that they can no longer post until they contact us. < Under such circumstances, do you e-mail this to the user?> No. Once on probation it is the member's responsibility to contact us and not the other way around. The member learns that they are on probation when they try to post again. At that point they get a message informing them to contact chess@chessgames.com to discuss being taken off probation. Once they write us, they are shown the messages that violated our rules and are asked to 1. acknowledge that they broke our rules, and 2. to promise not to do it again. The entire affair can often take less than 24 hours. |
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May-12-11
| | chessgames.com: <LIFE Master AJ: When it comes to corrections, does this include double games???> Sure. <Spassky vs Avtonomov, 1949 - Spassky vs A Aftonov, 1949
One of these is a dupe ... I have no idea how you verify which game/spelling is correct ...> Research is a big part of the corrections process, although spelling is usually the least of our worries. Where it really gets tricky is determining which moves are correct, e.g. in your example, was 7. Qe2 b5 8. Bb3 Nc6 9. Nc3 cxd4 10. Rd1 Bb7 or 7. Qe2 Nc6 8. Nc3 b5 9. Bb3 Bb7 10. Rd1 cxd4 actually played? <if so, do you consolidate the comments/kibitzes?> Yes, and we also update Game Collections. |
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| May-12-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: My web pages may be of help, Soltis told me that he pulled this game (directly) from old copies of Soviet/Russian mags. Of course, I am referring to the hard-back book, (with orange dust cover); "The Best Games of Boris Spassky," by Andrew Soltis. (I am looking at my copy as I type this.) |
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| May-12-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: Getting a copy might help you here ... |
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| May-12-11 | | zarg: <cg.com: I believe it's time to revisit that plan.> Well, on <to Zap or not to Zap> I would certainly love powers to Zap others, but hate to be Zap'ed myself! Sometimes violating posting guideline [3], is a blessing and a flamewar can be handy to blow off some steam. However, a zero-tolerance policy against posting guideline [1,2,4], I wouldn't mind. The question of policing or allowing anarchy, there are pay-offs on both. I am pragmatic, if things are getting out of hand on a player page or forum, I would support <cg.com> activating a fire-brigade of Zap'ers, but if there is no fire going on, I don't see the point of having this fire-brigade running around and Zap'ing... my well crafted flames, insults the victim fully deserve! :) My point is that a fire-brigade is not needed usually, and people need to use their private Zap-function called "ignore". If making a Zap feature and authorizing a fire-brigade, some useful features could be 1. <cg.com> can activate/deactivate fire-brigade (default: off) 2. <cg.com> put poster on watch-list for X days 3. only posters on watch-list can be Zap'ed
4. poster leave watch-list after X clean days
5. IF poster on watch is Zap'ed, days left set to X again this is a crude system, we have <law> and <police>, but where is the <judge> and the <jury>? How to select the fire-brigade? In case of a dispute between two posters, they would certainly like to argue their case somewhere for a long time, an appeal court? And if we get an unjustified Zap, of a brilliant post to our mind, how do we make a case against such police violence? Of course, then some want to make a case against the Zapper and get their rights revoked! Some troubled water.. good luck! |
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May-12-11
 | | jessicafischerqueen: It's not my place to speak for <tpstar>, but if you go to his forum you'll see that he didn't just suggest this "Zap" thing out of the blue. tpstar chessforum
In fact, you'll find that <tpstar> mainly thinks that members should work out problems between themselves, as they were forced to in the early years of the website. Worth reading- <tpstar> has provided an historical account of the early website that puts his recent comments at the admin forum in a wider context. |
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| May-12-11 | | hedgeh0g: Hey, chessgames! I thought McShane vs Y Zherebukh, 2011 might make a nice GOTD: "A man, a plan, a Canal-Sokolsky". The pun seemed too good to waste! :) |
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May-12-11
 | | Phony Benoni: <hedgeh0g>: It's been done. E Canal vs NN, 1934 |
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| May-12-11 | | hedgeh0g: Figures, but I think mine is better as it not only makes more sense (the game was a Canal-Sokolsky, whereas the other pun simply refers to the name of the player), but sounds a little snazzier. I recall one or two GOTDs with identical puns, so it wouldn't be unheard of to use mine. Come on, Phony, work with me here! |
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May-13-11
 | | Stonehenge: <CG> What does the black star behind some player's names mean? Does it mean they have to be always on top of the page?
Personally I find it better to put the player with the most games on top of the list. -What about giving kibitzers the possibility of deleting their posts for an indefinite period of time, as long as there hasn't been an answer to the post. |
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| May-13-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: I have a decent library. Hundreds and hundreds of books. About 40-50 copies of the original "Informants." (etc.) If there is any way I can be of help, just let me know ... BTW the CS 1904 site (http://home.roadrunner.com/~etzel/c...) has literally DOZENS of corrections on those games. NOT! just by me, but also many discovered by around a group of 50 hard-core CS1904 fans. Steve Etzel's research in this area is beyond anything I have seen ... at least my most on-line sites. |
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May-13-11
 | | OhioChessFan: <Stonehenge: What about giving kibitzers the possibility of deleting their posts for an indefinite period of time, as long as there hasn't been an answer to the post.> Not gonna happen. I may read your post tonight and decide to respond tomorrow. It's hardly fair to make yourself a moving target. |
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| May-14-11 | | LIFE Master AJ: Good point. |
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May-14-11
| | Stonehenge: Hmm, I don't see the problem. How often is it going to happen that you read a post and want to respond, but are going to wait until tomorrow? And how often will it happen that the post you are going to respond to is already deleted? And when that happens I still don't see the problem. I would think, nevermind. |
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May-14-11
 | | WannaBe: <Stonehenge> It does happen, sometimes, one would read a post, that is so vile, and offensive, but yet, with good sense, you would not respond. Hoping, maybe, the poster would have the good sense to delete, and reconsider... This is not uncommon, I, for one, have delayed posting more than once, and have had times, where I leave an e-mail in my Draft box, and go back to 'reconsider'. |
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| May-14-11 | | shivasuri4: <chessgames.com>,please create a tournament page for the Capablanca Memorial.Ivanchuk and Le Quang Liem are part of the six membered drr tourney. |
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| May-15-11 | | shivasuri4: I read your note at the Capa Memorial page.So is there no explanation of the game score?Maybe it is better to have no score than an incorrect one. |
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May-16-11
 | | Domdaniel: <WannaBe> - <This is not uncommon, I, for one, have delayed posting more than once, and have had times, where I leave an e-mail in my Draft box, and go back to 'reconsider'.> Yeah, but you're *sane*. It makes a difference. |
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