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Mar-19-12  twinlark: Seeing as voratco wants public demonstrations of his wares, I'll relocate his posts in my forum to here for the public appreciation he so obviously craves:

<voratco: When you are ready to play more name calling, let me know, I am ready. Ok?

Pak off, you bastard.>

and

<voratco: Screw you, twinlark, you bastard, calling me sod off is uncalled for. Now you have a problem with your delete button. I will come do it here until you publicly apologize.>

Mar-19-12  voratco: <I'll relocate his posts in my forum to her>

Is ceegee a him or a her?

Mar-19-12  voratco: Good job, twinlark, you just demonstrated that I spoke the truth since you had no re butt. Accepted it like a man, guilty as charged. You started it, you should be able to finish it and clean your act.
Mar-19-12  rogge: <voratco>, I nominated <matebay> to the <most articulate troll> award. Still a troll, though ;)
Mar-19-12  voratco: rogge, I had no recollection about the <troll> hahaha.
Mar-19-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: I would like to add two opening suggestions.

King's Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.f4


click for larger view

It's way shorter than 6 moves, and some famous games have started this way (e.g. Anderssen vs Kieseritzky, 1851). Also, very popular in the 19th century, but very rare to see in the 21st century. The database says only 700 games have been with this opening since 2000. I hope there's nothing wrong with it. :)

Latvian Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5


click for larger view

Hasn't even been played in 2012 yet. Also, it's obviously shorter than 6 moves. Some famous games played include Bronstein vs V Mikenas, 1941. I hope there's nothing wrong with it. :)

Mar-19-12  voratco: I can feel the bulldozer's engine is running on its way to this forum. I hope everything will be wiped out like project x. I am quite certain the <voratco: sod off> comment will be spared for everyone to see. Well, that is what my crystal ball predicts.
Mar-19-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: <AJ: Another suggestion: An unlimited ignore list. (For everyone.) >

I agree with this in principle. I don't know if there's logistical issues.

Mar-19-12  hms123: <OCF> I disagree about an unlimited ignore list. If this is to be a community then people need to figure how to get along with each other. 100 slots ought to be more than enough.

I would be interested in some data on the distribution of numbers on the ignore list; e.g., how many are full, how many are close to full, etc.

Mar-19-12  WinKing: Well we had something resembling peace for a little over a week. Guess that's about all we could expect around here...sad. I don't envy <cg>'s job trying to keep the peace...and they are trying.
Mar-19-12  benjinathan: <Guess that's about all we could expect around here...sad.>

I think we can expect more, much more. Really, it should be easy.

I hope I did not waste my $25.

Mar-19-12  Thanh Phan: Unlimited Ignore list? Would it become more fast to select a few and Friends them, and then select Favorites-Mode to On? A view to save time in place of unlimited ignore
Mar-19-12  voratco: Look at what I have found, a treasure worth safekeeping. Is this for real, someone slap the crap out of me, will you? Wake me up, huhuhu, I am having a nightmare, huhuhu

http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/in...

Anybody want to volunteer for the arbitration job?

Mar-19-12  frogbert: <I don't envy <cg>'s job trying to keep the peace...and they are trying.>

yes, they probably are, but there are a couple of problems.

1) they are seemingly understaffed, at least in some sense.

2) the available tools and the "technical" structure of the site (forums, pages) make it hard to handle the kind of issues we're seeing; maybe a more distributed form of "moderation" could've been implementable if there was more structure to build it upon.

3) the apparant tendency to "reward" those who make the most noise in the cg.com-forum (regardless of reason) does not scale very well - it inevitably leads to more new issues than it solves.

4) it appears that a more revolutional "root cause analysis" might be needed, where one is willing to rethink a couple of factors that currently seem to be outside the scope of consideration.

returning to us, the users and kibitzers of this site, i think there are a few things most of us would do good to consider. most of the problems i observe around here are due to the following, imo:

1) there seems to be a worrying lack of tolerance for people who hold different opinions and beliefs than oneself, and way too many arguments go personal instead of focusing on the topic of debate. discuss what the other kibitzers say and argue, not who you think they are and what you assume are their motives. (because a) you don't know, and b) it's inflammatory)

2) there also seems to be a considerable tendency for passing judgment and making accusations instead of giving others the benefit of the doubt or leaving room/time for people to change their ways. there aren't bad people or good people - we're all human beings and we do good things most of the time and bad things some of the time. the big majority tries to do their best most of the time.

3) if all of us would mainly watch ourselves and make sure to keep our own path clean, we could safely leave to the site administration to take care of the few missteps that people are bound to make. we don't need private lynch mobs, "troops" or "site patrols" who think it's their task to take care of "unwanted behaviour". we don't need their cheerleaders either. those initiatives make the problem worse, not better; blow the whistle or write an email to the admins and *accept* what they choose to do (or not do) about it.

4) and if you absolutely need to interfere with how other people here behave, then try watching your *friends' behaviour* and be a friendly corrective for those who already respect and believe in you. if you can't convince a friend to change his/her ways, you can forget about making someone you openly despise listen to what you have to say.

those were my 2 cents.

Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: OK where to start ...

First of all, let me say that I deleted many posts to keep things concise and to the point here. I left a few long posts as I hate to delete something that people put obvious effort into, as well as a few posts I thought were well stated. Many posts demand answers, those are coming.

Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: Next, matebay, you wrote <when my only aspirations is to enable CG to make a transition from this dire state to one that would make it a bastion of freedom and democracy for all to see.>

Oh God, give us all a break.

Apparently your interpretation of Freedom is the right to come barreling through a private place of business and insult as many people as you can, being rude and abrasive to the business owners and customers alike.

Read this loud and clear: This forum is NOT for sounding off on whatever CG related topic you happen to want to get off your chest.

Take this as a serious warning: If you make ONE more post on this page, no matter how trivial, which is NOT a genuine support-issue, you WILL go on probation, and that's a promise. I don't want to see your name on this forum even one more time.

If you want to communicate to me please do so at chess@chessgames.com.

Mar-20-12
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  chessgames.com: <<shivasuri4> <chessgames.com>, could you please reinstate GM Parimarjan Negi in the pulldown list on the home page?>

This is always a touchy issue. We recently got an email from somebody who was furious that Hou Yifan was not present. They were a bit rude but I forgive them as I know how passionate people can be about these things.

First it's important to understand that there are two lists, the "short list" that everybody gets, the "longer list of players on the homepage" which you can activate with a preference option. There aren't many important people missing from the long list, but the short list has some very conspicuous absentees. So if it bothers you that somebody is missing, just activate your long list, and forget that a short-list even exists.

Next understand that we have an algorithm to determine who gets to be on the short-list and the long-list. There's no editorial staff that determines which player merits inclusion. It is not strictly based on rating, it also has to do with the number of games. So it's not easy to predict exactly who will be on the lists.

Third point: we do not give the women a bonus. If we just added a rule that said "add 100 points to all women for purposes of being on the list" then we'd suddenly have Kosteniuk and Hou Yifan and a number of popular women on the list along with the guys.

Such a rule seems to us sexist, as if saying that "women are weak and need a handicap to stand on par with the men." We don't believe that to be true.

And yet Yifan Hou's 2639, it might be enough to make her Women's World Champion, but it's a lower rating than (say) Zoltan Gyimesi or Igor Lysyj. Nobody sends us angry emails about THEIR omissions on the short-list.

Sometimes when somebody writes "so-and-so needs to be one the short list" I ask in return "OK, so who should we remove to make space for them?" I know, it's sort of a snarky answer, but it illustrates the dilemma: we can't just keep adding to the short list, or it will one day become longer than the long list!

In conclusion, not sure what to do, if anything at all.

Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <<achieve> Is it policy to eventually have pronunciation icons with as many player pages as possible?> Oh, I hope so. But I see your point: if some guy is just playing amateur tournaments, rated 2000 or so, do we really need an mp3 file for him? Not really, but it doesn't hurt. <In my case for example can I submit audio files of any Dutch player in the Dbase, or should I limit strictly to well-known strong GMs, past and present?> I'd say start with the big names then go to smaller players as time allows. If we could have that icon on EVERY page, we'd do it!
Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <<shivasuri4> <Jonathan Sarfati: Ulf Andersson vs Portisch, 1989 and Ulf Andersson vs Portisch, 1990 are duplicates.> From the Kibitzer's Cafe.>

Thanks, but a few comments:

• No correction slip was submitted. If the protocol was followed this might have been fixed ages ago. Complaining in the kibitzing areas is the worst way to get things done around here.

• We still have two different game scores and don't know which is right. In this case it's a question of the year (1989 or 1990). Note that very few so-called-duplicates are truly identical!

Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <<Annie K.>: Hey <WannaBe>...! :) How about some audios for Chinese players, hmm? ;)> We got them and they are great. Bu Xiangzhi, Wang Hao, and Yifan Hou.
Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <al wazir: It's been more than a year since the last Chessgames Challenge. What's wrong, are GMs all afraid of us, or is <chessgames.com> not offering enough money?> We're sorry, we are negotiating the next one right now. It will probably be an Akobian rematch unless that gets postponed to accommodate his schedule.
Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <AgentRgent: Would it be possible to have tournament results be sortable? For large tournaments (e.g. Reykjavik Open (2012)) I'd like to be able to sort by Opening (although sorting by result or even # of moves could also be useful).> Its definitely possible but it's a technically hard thing to implement really well on a server that handles so many requests per second. We want to offer than ability one day but I can offer no ETA.

When you finally do get the ability, virtually every field should be sortable. # of moves, ECO, even sacrifice.

Mar-20-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  chessgames.com: <Thanh Phan: Unlimited Ignore list? Would it become more fast to select a few and Friends them, and then select Favorites-Mode to On? A view to save time in place of unlimited ignore> Exactly right. If you really want to ignore thousands of users and focus on a small group of "friends" then you have the favorite's list--the conceptual opposite of the ignore list.

Most people don't appreciate how much work ignore lists take, both in server resources and in just the details that they entail. It gobbles CPU cycles, slows response times--no doubt, it's a big pain to offer this function. There's a reason why many forums offer no feature even similar. But as long as we don't have lunatics running around with thousands people on their ignore list, we can handle it.

Mar-20-12  achieve: <CG> - <I'd say start with the big names then go to smaller players as time allows. If we could have that icon on EVERY page, we'd do it!> Well if <I> were to provide <all> of those, I'd be running around as a certifyable lunatic, I grant you that. Perhaps you could announce the option and "request" for some audio at the Giri Page? There's a handful+ of Dutchies hanging around there with some regularity. Or I could alert them.

But indeed, you may expect my first contribution this week, with some 15 notable players, plus a few promising young talents. Later perhaps I can expand, as I have learned the ropes and have the quality upto <Annie K> standards, which is of course quite impossible.

If it's OK I will use my only stereo mic, and it seems that each single name file will not exceed the 50 Kb size; most will be in the 30s.

Mar-20-12  shivasuri4: Thank you for the detailed replies, <chessgames.com>! I understand the selection process better now.
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