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Jun-01-12
 | | chessgames.com: Oh no, of course not! Team White has their private sticky, Team Black has their own. It's as confidential as the discussion. |
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| Jun-01-12 | | WinKing: Ok thanks chessgames for the quick response. I thought so but figured it better to 'never assume anything'. |
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| Jun-01-12 | | Shams: <cg> Gents, if I may-- any updates on when we can hope for historical tournament pages? |
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| Jun-01-12 | | DrNyet: Messages are assigned numbers. As far as I can see, you can't obtain the number from the message itself, but if you identify a post in a search or in the list of a player's posts on his profile page, the link includes that number. This is used by Chessgames and others to quote a post and link to the original posting. Suggestion: If the message/reply number were available in the post itself (perhaps by hovering the mouse over the date of the post) it would be easier to link to a particular message when one posts. It could also be used to fairly easily make oneself a bookmark to note where he left off reading a thread of particular interest. (Of course a less precise and more cumbersome bookmarking method is available now -- to note the poster and date and perhaps key words.) |
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| Jun-01-12 | | hoodrobin: <CG> In the opening Explorer games <1475-2022> is declared. Congrats! |
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Jun-01-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <hoodrobin> That's due to this game from a 2002 tournament being misdated as 2022: J Fraser-Mitchell vs W Purkiss, 2022
Since it is not a correspondence game, I have Notified the Librarian. Yes, I'm a spoilsport. |
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| Jun-01-12 | | hoodrobin: <WinKing> Please post your analyses in our (White) Team Kibitzer Corner or in my forum. I'll become famous among my (White) Teammates! |
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| Jun-01-12 | | Benzol: <Shams> <<cg> Gents, if I may-- any updates on when we can hope for historical tournament pages?> Can I second this?
:) |
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| Jun-01-12 | | I play the Fred: Can I second <Shams> and <Benzol>? |
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| Jun-02-12 | | Shams: <IPtF> Unless you can eat more than one egg on an empty stomach, I'm afraid you must third. |
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Jun-02-12
 | | Stonehenge: <CG> Evening chaps. Any chance of uploading the games that are in the queue? Tia :) |
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Jun-03-12
 | | Phony Benoni: <Stonehenge> Looks like quite a few games have become unqueued. At least, I've noticed many of my own submissions. |
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| Jun-03-12 | | Benzol: Can't say any of mine have.
:( |
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| Jun-03-12 | | morfishine: <CG> Are you able to retrieve a deleted post? |
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Jun-03-12
 | | chessgames.com: <games that are in the queue> We put the processing on hiatus during the WCC but now we're back at it. Hang in there Benzol, your games are next. |
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Jun-03-12
 | | chessgames.com: <morfishine: Are you able to retrieve a deleted post?> Yes, to varying degrees of effort. 1. If it was deleted by an admin it's easy to retrieve. We even wrote a command "undelete" for occasions when an admin screws up or has misgivings over removing something. By "admin" I mean the normal CG admins but it also includes a player like say Nigel Short deleting things from his payer page. It does not include normal users on their own chessforums. 2. Now, if it wasn't deleted by an admin, but it was deleted today, we can retrieve it from the nightly backup that takes place around 2:30am EDT each morning. But this takes some work, there's no "undelete" command for that. We could write a program to fetch the post out of the old file and then decide what to do with it. 3. Finally the worst case scenario: it was deleted a few days back, and not by an admin. Then we've have to get the back-up drive out of the safe, plug it in, and go scouring for it. If the post in question is in the 3rd category, I guess all I can say is "sorry". If it's in one of the other categories, and you need help, contact me at chess@chessgames.com. |
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Jun-03-12
 | | chessgames.com: <J Fraser-Mitchell vs W Purkiss, 2022> That's nothing. Somebody once uploaded a game from a British sci-fi show and the top year was over 3000. I believe the game is still in the db, we just reset the date to the year that the show was broadcast. |
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Jun-03-12
 | | Peligroso Patzer: The following theoretically interesting game may be worthy to be included in your database: <Sokolov,Ivan> (2640) - <Oll,Lembit> (2585) [D44] Hoogovens, Wijk aan Zee (2), 01.1993
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 e6 5.Bg5 dxc4 6.e4 b5 7.e5 h6 8.Bh4 g5 9.Nxg5 hxg5 10.Bxg5 Nbd7 11.g3 Bb7 12.Bg2 Qb6 13.exf6 0–0–0 14.0–0 c5 15.d5 b4 16.Na4 Qb5 17.a3 Nb8 18.axb4 cxb4 19.Qg4 Bxd5 20.Rfc1 Nc6 21.Bxd5 Rxd5 22.Rxc4 Kd7 23.Rac1 Rxg5 24.Qe4 Nd8 25.Qd4+ Ke8 26.Qxa7 Qa5 27.Qb8 Qxa4 28.Rd4 Rd5 29.Rxd5 exd5 30.Qc8 Qd7 31.Re1+ Qe6 32.Rxe6+ fxe6 33.f7+ 1–0 After an interesting opening and early middlegame, Oll went astray at move 28. Following <28. Rd4>, Black’s only move was <28. … Qa5>. Oll's <28. … Rd5?> allowed the e-file to be opened, leaving the Black King fatally exposed. |
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Jun-03-12
 | | chessgames.com: <DrNyet> <Suggestion: If the message/reply number were available in the post itself (perhaps by hovering the mouse over the date of the post) it would be easier to link to a particular message when one posts.> A little bit like what they call "permalinks" in the blogging world. We have the technology to take people directly to specific posts as you can see from Search Kibitzing and other features. So why not allow people to link to any post they want, anytime they want? Here's the situation:
That feature, and about 3 or 4 others, would be very handy to have, but it would require us to put the new features on every single kibitz. 1. I would like to see a "Whistle" command that works on a specific post, so the Whistler no longer needs to describe the post they are complaining about, they click on a whistle icon. This would save admins endless time trying to figure out what the person is referring to. 2. I would like to see the "permalink" feature you describe. 3. The idea of people voting on posts to be "thumbs up" / "thumbs down" in the style of Youtube or Reddit is not offensive to us, as long as it's not used as a kind of censorship tool. It could pave the way to "Kibitz of the day" and other cool things. 4. As some have suggested, a way to "bookmark" your place on a certain page could be handy so you can resume reading where you left off. Now here's the problem: From a point of design philosophy, we are incredibly stingy when it comes to monitor space. We are the Ebenezer Scrooges of monitor ink. Every pixel is precious and we won't let one slip through our fingers without having a darn good reason. I'm sure you've all seen PHPBB forums (even if you aren't familiar with the name) in which even the most terse conversation will take up a full page of monitor space just because of all of the frills and avatars and links and doohickeys that surround each post. We wanted to avoid that trap so we tried to make CG as condensed as possible: we gave a little space for a date (and an avatar, if they have one) and that's that. So in summary, we would love to give you folks permalinks and a few other "per-post" type features, but first we have to grapple with the thorny question "where will we stick that feature?" |
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Jun-03-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Shams: <cg> Gents, if I may-- any updates on when we can hope for historical tournament pages?> That's a wonderful topic to revisit. It has a very high "benefit to time-invested" ratio. Basically, the hard part of the work is already done. I know that several users have slaved away at making game collections for just this purpose. What's missing is a way for those users to say "This collection is for a tournament called _____________ in the city of _________". Then an admin will approve it, and Bob's your uncle. More on this subject soon. |
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Jun-03-12
 | | chessgames.com: <Peligroso Patzer> Please don't take this the wrong way, but we're going to have to stop accepting PGN submissions made on this forum. Some people have been waiting weeks or longer to see a game get inserted. Then when you (and others) come here with games and get instant attention, it breeds resentment from the people who are trying to follow the protocol correctly. I'm sure the game is great (any game with Oll is a must-have) and if somebody wouldn't mind adding to the PGN Upload Utility we'll be happy to queue it for insertion like the other ones. Thanks for understanding. |
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Jun-03-12
 | | Annie K.: <cg: <but first we have to grapple with the thorny question "where will we stick that feature?">> The date "link" that's on every post. It doesn't seem to do anything else, and it's the most intuitive place for a post-specific permalink. :) |
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Jun-03-12
 | | Annie K.: Personally, I think the thumbs up/down feature is a mark of the cheapest "social networking for dummies" kitsch mentality a site could possibly display. Please don't do that. If you're really thinking about adding 3-5 other post-specific functions, the way to go is with one row of small (15x15 pixels or so) intuitive icons, probably best placed above the date. A whistle icon, a book(mark) icon, and an icon for the permalink (could be simply an arrow pointing right, toward the post, for example) - if you don't turn the date itself into a link - could work well. :) I would also really like having an actual time stamp (not just date) on the posts, but that's probably pushing it. ;p |
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Jun-03-12
 | | Diademas: Hi <CG>
Just four more days before Tal Memorial kicks off.
Could we please have a discussion page?
Thank you. |
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| Jun-03-12 | | twinlark: Hi <ceegee>
The Albena Masters in Bulgaria just finished: http://www.albenachess.com/index_en... It's a relatively high value tournament with about 60 masters competing (with 19 GMs including Akopian, Cheparinov and Petrosian). It's a strange home page: there's no sign of, or links to, results or PGNs. In any case, here are the results at the trusty C-R site: http://chess-results.com/tnr73870.a... Hope there's a way of finding the PGNs. If not, hopefully they will soon be posted in FIDE's tournament database with the formal notification of results. |
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