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Jul-02-12  Benzol: <Maybe I should have just gotten to work and kept my mouth shut until the official announcement, if any.>

Dave I don't think there is any secret about it. It was also something I just noticed about 10 minutes ago. Anyway like you I will go through the tournament collections I have and update accordingly. This might take a bit of time, however. I may be able to help <suenteus po> as well.

:)

Jul-02-12  Benzol: If <crawfb5> isn't already a bio editor maybe <cg> could make him one and if not then maybe we who are can help him out.
Jul-02-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Benzol> I think I'm going to start in on the USSR Championships, since that was one of our more important projects. Someone should probably check on the World Championship series as well, but I'm not sure how much info we have.
Jul-02-12
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  chessgames.com: No it's no secret, it's the new level of editing capabilities available to the group of people we used to call "Biography Editors." Please note one detail, since the role is expanding so much, from now on, let's just call this crew the "Chessgames Editors".

The Chessgames Editor Guide (formerly called the "Player Editor FAQ") has a new section about the new feature, in which CG editors can modify date & round information on the fly.

To answer Phony's question about the zeros preceding round numbers: Honestly, we never really thought about it. It's a little bit abnormal, and we want to be consistent, so let's leave out preceding zeros. No need to scold anybody for putting them in, so I think it's best if the software just silently removes them.

About round numbers: we don't want to get too fancy here. I know some tournaments demand things like "14.5" but for the most part we just want ordinary integers, sometimes with *one* decimal point. I don't believe the field should allow you to use letters or other symbols.

We haven't even gotten to the best part yet: believe it or not, this feature is integrally related to a discussion we were having here not long ago about opening up kibitzing on historical tournament pages. You see, we want to do that, but there is a glaring problem: the sort order of the games on most old tournaments is utterly pell-mell. This is simply because round and date information is hard to come by with the older games. If we had the dates, everything would sort itself perfectly, just like modern tournaments do.

So what this means is that the finishing touches now need to be placed on precious resources like (just to pick one at random) Game Collection: Hastings 1895. Once we get the dates and rounds, we'll be almost ready to launch pages dedicated to historical events. Over time, these pages may even have photos and articles sort of like our History of the World Chess Championship feature--but for starters, we'll just be happy if we can get the rounds in the right order.

We will summarize these changes and plans for future expansion in the Biographer Bistro soon, but for the time being that's the idea.

Thanks for everybody's help!

If you notice any bugs or unexpected details crop up using the feature, please let us know.

Jul-03-12  Benzol: <chessgames> Game Collection: Hastings 1895 now has its finishing touches and the ball is now firmly in your court. Good luck.

:)

Jul-03-12  Shams: <Admins> Great news that historical tourney pages are coming! And thanks to users like <Benzol> too. Perhaps as the official tournament pages eclipse the game collections, some modest permanent note of these users' contributions would be appropriate.
Jul-03-12  twinlark: Great changes, <ceegee>!
Jul-03-12
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  chessgames.com: <The ball is now firmly in your court> Amazing work Benzol, thanks. Things are about to get very interesting!

And thanks to everybody else involved as well (I can see from the logfiles that so many of you are making changes devotedly.) It will be great to be able to discuss some of these historical tournaments on their own pages.

<Shams> brings up a good point, but fear not--I think there's an easy way to give credit where credit is due. If you notice, our WCC pages like Euwe-Alekhine World Championship Rematch (1937) have a small link at the bottom that reads (say)

<Reference: game collection Game Collection: WCC Index [Euwe-Alekhine 1937]>

That link points to suenteus po 147's excellent game collection on the match. We need to preserve that spirit in the new feature: that we keep track of where we learned our information, so when the time comes we'll be able to give our members the credit they deserve.

Jul-03-12  Blunderdome: I'd like to see the policy of not allowing pun submissions on games under 10 moves repealed. If a game is of low quality, it will be judged so by the voters or the admins; there's no need for an arbitrary cut-off.
Jul-04-12  twinlark: <ceegee>

Probably sounds trivial after this incredibly useful and important feature, but could you include a couple of more variables for editors to update: to wit, the score sheet ratings of players in games played after 1971 or 1975?

1975 is safer as it is apparently unclear what the dates of effect are for the 1971-74 ratings: http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/rat...

Jul-04-12
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  LoveThatJoker: <CG> Still looking forward to "Pun Graveyard" page or having you post more bad puns on here.

That sure is entertaining!

LTJ

Jul-04-12  crawfb5: Letting the bio editors add/correct round and date on games is great, but might I suggest also letting them edit the event and site fields as well? Many of the historical tournament have games that were submitted at different times, so event names are inconsistent and sometimes incorrect. There were a number of games from different events in New York that were misidentified as "New Orleans" events of one kind or another. The Librarian fixed most or all of that heterogeneous group last summer.

As another example, the games in Game Collection: 1946 Denker-Steiner match are listed here (and in other online databases) as from a <playoff> match. However, this match was played May 1946 and the 1946 tournament was Oct-Nov 1946. In the 1946 tournament, neither Denker nor Steiner finished anywhere near Reshevsky, who took clear first over Kashdan by 2.5 points. Denker had won the 1944 championship and the May 1946 match was a challenge match with Steiner with the understanding the winner would hold the title until the tournament in the fall.

Currently there is no mechanism to fix something like this other than appeal to the CG Librarian or some other overworked administrator.

Jul-04-12
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  Phony Benoni: <crawfb5> That's a concern of mine as well. Another good example is AVRO 1938, which has seventeen different combinations of Event/Site in 56 games.

I had been hoping that, once <chessgames.com> had a collection of games, they could do some sort of magic batch change to fix everything at once.

Of course, there is still the question of what the event should be called in the first place. For example, should it be "Louis D. Statham Masters" (the official name) or "Lone Pine" (popular name)? Or if the event and site name are the same, should event be something like "it" for "International Tournament" (you see that one all the time).

Jul-04-12  Benzol: <Of course, there is still the question of what the event should be called in the first place. For example, should it be "Louis D. Statham Masters" (the official name) or "Lone Pine" (popular name)? Or if the event and site name are the same, should event be something like "it" for "International Tournament" (you see that one all the time).>

Indeed. I am hoping <chessgames> will make the call on what to name the tournaments and events. For "International Tournament" I would prefer "Intl Tt" but that's just me.

:)

Jul-04-12  Benzol: <Another good example is AVRO 1938, which has seventeen different combinations of Event/Site in 56 games.>

Dave I hadn't realized it was that many. A lot of people think the whole tournament took place in Amsterdam but this wasn't so. That was why I included the name of the Town/City each round was played in.

Jul-04-12
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  Phony Benoni: <Benzol> Paul, you're right, of course. I was speaking of the scores on the game pages, not the correct information in your collection.

What should be recorded for site in a case like that is difficult. Will being historically accurate make it appear that more than one event had taken place? And what of events like Hastings that span two years?

When we're dealing with information which will be manipulated by a computer, we have to take into account how our data will be interpreted. It might not be the way we think.

Jul-04-12
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  chessgames.com: <Blunderdome: I'd like to see the policy of not allowing pun submissions on games under 10 moves repealed.> You're right, and the fact that we ourselves picked a *zero* move game once (Kramnik vs Topalov, 2006) just emphasizes your point.
Jul-05-12
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  OhioChessFan: <89 registered members online, plus 783 anonymous users.>

What exactly does that mean? Only 10% of the users are registered? Or many registered users are on the site but not logging in? Or there's over 700 spammers online? Something else? Is that 10% typical in the industry? I just saw that and am surprised at the percentages.

Jul-05-12  Kinghunt: <CG> Can we get a World Rapid & Blitz Championship page open? The first round of the finals is in less than 15 hours and I know there are many people who would like to have a place to talk about it.
Jul-05-12
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  chessgames.com: <<89 registered members online, plus 783 anonymous users.> What exactly does that mean?>

It's like this: if we look at our logfiles over the past 15 minutes, we see 872 different I.P. addresses. Now we know that it's not quite true that "one IP address = one web surfer" but it's *mostly* true so we'll pretend it is for our purposes.

Now, out of those 872 different users, how many are actually registered members of and signed-in right now? 89.

One question that comes to mind is "Who are these other 783 web surfers?" Don't they realize how much more fun CG is when you can make game collections and kibitz? But there are many explanations. Here are a few:

• Maybe they just cruised in from searching "Magnus Carlsen" in Google. Believe it or not, not everybody knows about CG.

• Maybe it's a web spider, either a legitimate one or a "rogue" spider.

• somebody with an account who isn't currently signed-in

• Lots of people are "lurkers" who use Chessgames but never thought it necessary to actually make an account.

The last category is probably the biggest. 10% is actually very high for most websites of our format. Most people are lurkers, and probably always will be.

Incidentally, if you set your preference option "Don't show me on the Recent Visitors section of the homepage" you'll be added into the registered user count even though your name is not displayed. That's why if you took the pains to count all those screen-names you'd find it doesn't add up quite to 89.

Jul-05-12
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  chessgames.com: <Can we get a World Rapid & Blitz Championship page open? > We're working on that right now. Does anybody know, is there a separate section for women?
Jul-05-12
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  chessgames.com: Oh never mind, the women played in Georgia earlier this year.

Anyhow, here's your tourney page: World Rapid Championship (2012) and then for July 9-10 it will be time for World Blitz Championship (2012).

Jul-05-12  Alien Math: <chessgames.com> World blitz and rapid chess championship in Astana | Appears that Dinara Saduakassova, 2216, the only female participant, did not qualify for the finals http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...

Qualified and nominated players for Astana World Rapid and Blitz Championships, Officials/Arbiters listed also here http://www.fide.com/component/conte...

World Rapid and Blitz Championships Pairings 2012 http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

Jul-05-12  Kinghunt: Thanks <CG>.
Jul-05-12
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  LoveThatJoker: <chessgames.com> Still looking forward to more of those hilarious bad puns!

LTJ

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