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| Feb-17-16 | | twinlark: <chessgames.com: <twinlark> Good point about Zurich Chess Challenge (Opening Blitz) (2016)> The important blitz event at Zurich was not this one but the one that came last and was part of the actual scoring and determining prizes. Including it would make the set of three complete and able to be cross-referenced. |
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Feb-17-16
 | | tpstar: <Check It Out> "King David" was used already = Bronstein vs Keres, 1955 I challenge you right now in real time to invent a new GOTD title for Navara-Wojtaszek. If you cannot, Spank the Booty! |
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| Feb-17-16 | | Keyser Soze: <tpstar: <Check It Out> "King David" was used already = Bronstein vs Keres, 1955
I challenge you right now in real time to invent a new GOTD title for Navara-Wojtaszek. If you cannot, Spank the Booty!> "I`m the Lizard King, I <CAN'T> do anything"(The Doors) Ok, horrible .heh |
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Feb-17-16
 | | chessgames.com: <Check It Out>
I'm sorry that my answer was dismissive.
You get to the core of the problem when you write <It is a source of pride to score the title of the GOTD, ask anyone.> I understand now you are proud of it as a kind of accolade which has now been unexpectedly stripped from you for purely arbitrary reasons. You know the switch wasn't aimed at you, but you were caught in the crosshairs. I still say that the daily pun is not to be taken as seriously as many people do; but I see that some of the extravagant ideas like storing all puns, or adopting new policies, make more sense when seen in this light. To add to the irony of the whole situation, while you and others feel that we're not taking the pun feature seriously enough, the more common complaint is that we take it far too seriously. If it means a lot to you, I have no qualms changing it back to King David. I'm not trying to defend some grand principle here. However, as long as people take this so seriously, I can't promise that the daily pun will not cause more anxiety in the future. |
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| Feb-17-16 | | zanzibar: <Check It Out> <I'm seriously contemplating leaving the site. I'll think it over.> I'd miss seeing your occasional post...
not to mention the heavy metal head-banging!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1U... |
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Feb-17-16
 | | AylerKupp: <chessgames.com> A typical situation arose recently on the Tata Steel page. Someone started discussing the topic of ratings inflation, others commented on it, and the next thing you know there were a lot of posts addressing the topic which was clearly off-topic for the Tata Steel page but there was some worthwhile information in the posts. So my first question is, is there an existing page suitable for addressing this topic, which I and others think is relevant to chess? The Kibitzer's Corner seems to be too general a forum to address this specific topic. If there isn't an existing suitable page, is there a mechanism for requesting that a page be created for it besides a post such as this one on your forum? And if there is a mechanism for requesting the creation of special interest pages such as one for discussing the topic of ratings, is there a way to find out what other special interest pages there are? That might be of assistance in helping reduce off-topic posts. Of course, the burden of determining whether the request for a page to address a special topic is of a sufficient chess-related interest would fall on you, but it's hopefully not an unusually large extra burden. |
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Feb-17-16
 | | AylerKupp: <MissScarlett> Your mention of the Falklands and Argentina reminded me of a story, perhaps apocryphal, that I heard many years ago and that hopefully you and others will find amusing. There was a chap who lived in Chile that was trying to send a package to the Falkland Islands and addressed as such. The most direct path was through Argentina, of course, but each time he mailed the package it was returned with the notice "No such destination". So he thought that he would be clever and send the package addressed to the Malvinas Islands. This time it took a little bit longer but the package was again returned, this time with a notice indicating that "This package addressed to the Malvinas Islands was erroneously delivered to the Falkland Islands." If it actually did happen it was truly a case of "You can't get there from here." |
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| Feb-17-16 | | Keyser Soze: <AylerKupp> Several elo rating discussions happened here before Arpad Elo |
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Feb-19-16
 | | chessgames.com: Yes, Arpad Elo is the encouraged place to take such discussions, although compared to the amount of rating discussion on recent tournaments you might say it's rarely used. I think it's one of those things that is useless to fight against. 100 years from now when we're playing chess on Mars, chess fans will still be talking about the nature of ratings, how <insert-favorite-dead-GM-here> would crush all these guys if he were still alive, and how it's a shame that <insert-favorite-living-GM-here> wasn't invited. |
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Feb-19-16
 | | WannaBe: Now accepting entries for 2116 Mars Open, place your deposit now! Spaces going fast. |
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| Feb-20-16 | | FairyPromotion: <WannaBe: Now accepting entries for 2116 Mars Open, place your deposit now! Spaces going fast.> I heard Williams went to Kepler 452b to prepare for this event, and found some exceptional novelties. He told Milky Way Media that he can't wait to avenge last years loss in Kudrin vs A Williams, 2115. |
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Feb-20-16
 | | MissScarlett: <<MissScarlett> You should be happy to know all games (not just the new ones) played in Caleta are now designated as "Caleta GIB".> Not really. Caleta is the name of the hotel the tournament took place in. It would be akin to designating the site of New York (1924) as "Alamac, NY USA". That's why I suggested "Hotel Caleta, Catalan Bay GIB". |
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Feb-20-16
 | | MissScarlett: <I'm seriously contemplating leaving the site. I'll think it over.> Have you ever, in all your born days, heard anything quite so pathetic? |
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| Feb-20-16 | | morfishine: <Check It Out> Cool off man, don't take these puns so seriously <CG> How bout this game for GOTD: W Pollock vs Allies, 1893 Thrilling, exciting and instructive all rolled into one. You don't have to use my Pun suggestion "The Chess School of Pollock" which combines the player with a school of fish (pollock) but at least use the game, its totally GOTD worthy Respectfully always,
morf
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Feb-20-16
 | | Domdaniel: On Puns: I tend to agree with CG (and Morf) here -- it is a tad mystifying that some people seem to invest such significance in GOTD puns.
I've suggested a few, and I think some were used. I never really kept score, nor would I notice (or object) if they were later changed. <Check It Out> -says < It is a source of pride to score the title of the GOTD, ask anyone.> ... well, don't ask *me*, as it just wouldn't occur to me to feel proud of this dubious achievement. Then again: according to Thomas Pynchon, there is high magic in low puns. There's nothing like a good pun... and if you want to feel proud of one of your creations, good luck. |
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| Feb-20-16 | | optimal play: Still On Puns: I'm disappointed that following the recent passing of Harper Lee, a pun I submitted a while ago has not been used to honour this great author ... Mecking vs D Baretic, 1971
"To Kill A Mecking Bird"
Hmm, then again, there's nothing like a good pun and I guess that is nothing like a good pun! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| Feb-21-16 | | optimal play: <morfishine <CG> How bout this game for GOTD: W Pollock vs Allies, 1893 Thrilling, exciting and instructive all rolled into one. You don't have to use my Pun suggestion "The Chess School of Pollock" which combines the player with a school of fish (pollock) but at least use the game, its totally GOTD worthy> If we knew the Allies were Polish we could call it "Blue Poles" You know ... Jackson Pollock painted Blue Poles ...
Anyway, now you know why my puns hardly ever get chosen! |
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| Feb-21-16 | | sonia91: <"Caleta GIB"> As I already wrote in the 2-3 correction slips I submitted you did not write for 2015 World Cup, held at Fairmont Hotel, "Fairmont AZE" but "Baku AZE", or for the 2014 Olympiad "Mackhallen NOR" but "Tromso NOR". I think Miss Scarlett's suggestion is good. There is another mistake (<Tradewise Gibraltar started in 2008>): as I already reported in <at least 2> correction slips I submitted and as I already explained in this post Tradewise Gibraltar (2016) Gibraltar Chess Festival started in 2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibra...), in 2008 the main sponsor was still Gibtelecom: http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.c... and as you can read in the 2008 edition website it says <6th Gibraltar Chess Festival>, so the first edition cannot be held in 2008 at all! |
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| Feb-21-16 | | zanzibar: "To Kill a Mecking Bird" is pretty good, and topical. "(Chess) School of Pollock" is also good, though I think the shorter version would do. * * * * *
As for GOTD puns, I can sympathize that some people think it more important than other things. I mean, some people think each and every Capablanca simul game is worth preserving and documenting (heck, you could include me in that). The GOTD problem is having no ground-rules established, I think. So it seems arbitrary when one gets replaced. But I can certainly see allowing other puns to be applied to the same game. So I would propose a compromise (1) A pun, if elected for GOTD, stays in place for one year, at least. (2) <CG> memorializes all GOTD's/puns in a collection it automatically maintains and makes available. The first point should satisfy any author as fair I should hope. And it provides ensures <CG> does not to repeat games for at least a year, itself a "good" thing. The second point should give pun authors the satisfaction that their pun lasts as long as <CG>. And preserves evidence, in case the author should ever be called to task for poor taste. Plus, <CG> building an automatic collection of GOTD's will free up <Phony> for other endeavors. Another "good" thing. |
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Feb-21-16
 | | MissScarlett: Eat not of the low-hanging fruit:
Mecking vs A Rocha, 1969
<<CG> memorializes all GOTD's/puns in a collection it automatically maintains and makes available.> Game Collection: Game of the Day Pun Index (A-B) |
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| Feb-21-16 | | zanzibar: <CG> - Here's a search that left me scratching my head, if only momentarily: <Advanced Search> on player <Keene>... http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... When I first scanned the results I was in disbelief, not seeing Raymond at the top of the list (in fact I thought he wasn't even on the list, to tell the truth). So, why wouldn't a player with 1673 games be placed above four consultation teams, each of which have but one game? And why are all the consultation teams rated with a star? . |
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Feb-21-16
 | | MissScarlett: < I submitted you did not write for 2015 World Cup, held at Fairmont Hote..> Geography, history and politics not being their strong points, I suspect that <cg.com> didn't appreciate that Caleta was simply the hotel name, but blindly followed the 'official' PGNs from the organisers. I now discover that 'Caleta, ENG' has been used for previous editions of this event. |
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| Feb-21-16 | | zanzibar: <<MS> Eat not of the low-hanging fruit:> Yes, I put the reference in to freeing up <Phony> from the task. I wasn't aware that the Mecking game already used the pun, but a good pun is a good pun. And as for <King David> being reused, I don't have a problem with a pun being applied from one game to another. That's similar to the year lock-down on a game. Perhaps a year lock-down on a pun should also apply. I'm mostly a disinterested observer from the sidelines on this... though I have to admit I've submitted one or two myself. That was before the electro-shock treatments - and I'm feeling better now! |
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| Feb-21-16 | | morfishine: <zanzibar> Very well put. While I've been a persistent detractor or critic of puns selected, I could really care less if mine don't get submitted With that said, I really hope <CG> uses the Pollock game, its one of my favorites ***** |
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| Feb-21-16 | | TheFocus: What criteria do you use in selecting people on the birthday list? Today you had, IIRC, a non-master and a FIDE Master, but you left off such GMs as Arnold Denker and Laszlo Barczay. |
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