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Arpad Elo
Number of games in database: 17
Years covered: 1935 to 1957
Overall record: +1 -13 =3 (14.7%)*
   * Overall winning percentage = (wins+draws/2) / total games
      Based on games in the database; may be incomplete.

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ARPAD ELO
(born Aug-25-1903, died Nov-05-1992) Hungary (citizen of United States of America)
PRONUNCIATION:
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Arpad Emrick Elo, born in Hungary in 1903, emigrated to the US and became a professor of physics at Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Many times Wisconsin State Chess Champion he is best known for developing a mathematical rating system for players that was universally adopted in 1970.

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 page 1 of 1; 17 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. Dake vs A Elo  1-053 1935 Western ChampionshipA09 Reti Opening
2. W A Ruth vs A Elo  1-030 1935 ACF CongressA45 Queen's Pawn Game
3. A Elo vs Santasiere  0-152 1935 ACF CongressB29 Sicilian, Nimzovich-Rubinstein
4. A Elo vs A Simonson  0-137 1935 ACF CongressC11 French
5. Kashdan vs A Elo  1-024 1935 USA-36.Congress MastersD49 Queen's Gambit Declined Semi-Slav, Meran
6. A Elo vs Fine ½-½58 1935 Western ChampionshipC01 French, Exchange
7. A Elo vs Dake  ½-½31 1936 Milwaukee City ChampionshipB84 Sicilian, Scheveningen
8. Santasiere vs A Elo  1-039 1937 ACF CongressA21 English
9. A Elo vs E W Marchand 0-133 1937 ACF CongressB73 Sicilian, Dragon, Classical
10. A Elo vs Fine 0-135 1940 US OpenB20 Sicilian
11. A Elo vs Fine  ½-½23 1940 US Open (Prelim 2)C27 Vienna Game
12. A Elo vs H Burdge 1-023 1940 US OpenD51 Queen's Gambit Declined
13. J Thompson vs A Elo  1-038 1940 US OpenC86 Ruy Lopez, Worrall Attack
14. A Elo vs Albert Roddy  0-141 1940 US OpenB58 Sicilian
15. O Ulvestad vs A Elo 1-019 1946 47th US OpenE10 Queen's Pawn Game
16. W Shipman vs A Elo  1-027 1946 47th US OpenC39 King's Gambit Accepted
17. A Elo vs Fischer 0-149 1957 Milwaukee N-WesternB93 Sicilian, Najdorf, 6.f4
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Jul-02-13
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  alexmagnus: Any idea what happened to the women's top list in July 2013? If the statistics on the FIDE page is correct (didn't check it), the average of women's top 100 dropped by 14 points in comparison to June. Normally you don't expect such a change within a year, let alone within a month.
Jul-24-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  alexmagnus: ... And the answer turned out to be simple: they published top 120 instead of top 100.
Aug-14-13  tolengoy: <Arpad Elo
Number of games in database: 17
Years covered: 1935 to 1957
Overall record: +1 -13 =3 (14.7%)*>

You are a horrible chess player.

The same is true with your ranking system .

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: <tolengoy: <Arpad Elo Number of games in database: 17
Years covered: 1935 to 1957
Overall record: +1 -13 =3 (14.7%)*>

You are a horrible chess player.

The same is true with your ranking system.>

Meanwhile, by all evidence, you are not a chessplayer at all. You are no more than an incorrigible troll and mass producer of sockpuppets bouncing and drooling in spiteful glee whilst attacking those among your betters who are dead and can't defend themselves.

Bon courage.

If the admins weren't far more lenient than they need (or arguably ought) to be, do you imagine you'd still be here?

Aug-14-13  tolengoy: <Meanwhile, by all evidence, you are not a chessplayer at all.>

You are mistaken. See my games here:

http://www.chess.com/members/view/t...

<You are no more than an incorrigible troll and mass producer of sockpuppets>

nonsense...I am an avid chess fan turned committed crusader for truth and justice.

<If the admins weren't far more lenient than they need (or arguably ought) to be, do you imagine you'd still be here?>

They told me to make my posts relating to the elo rating system here:

<Premium Chessgames Member chessgames.com: This page is for discussing the 2013 World Cup and not for debating the merits and shortcomings of the Elo rating system. Pursuant to that goal, a number of off-topic messages were deleted. For those who would like to continue discussing Elo ratings, including Elo conspiracy theories, may we suggest the page for Arpad Elo himself.>

Aug-14-13  torrefan: May I ask: why did they call it Elo System or Elo Rating?

Why not Arpad System/Rating since most of the ratings are padded?

Aug-14-13  tolengoy: <are padded>

Why not elongated System?

Aug-14-13  pugak: <Overall record: +1 -13 =3 (14.7%>

I can honestly lie that this result is great.

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: <pugak: <Overall record: +1 -13 =3 (14.7%>

I can honestly lie that this result is great.>

How, then, could you *dishonestly* lie? ;-)

Seriously, though: Are you sure that the 17 games now in the database represent <Arpad Elo>'s career results?

(And even if they were, would this necessarily disqualify him from developing a valid rating system?)

In general, I've found it wise to examine more than the most readily available facts before rendering a final judgment. Often subsequent examination discloses other facts that alter my opinion.

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: Does anyone happen to know why this page "flickers" in some browsers? (I note that others don't do this.)

Aug-14-13
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  mjmorri: For those who are complaining about Elo's record, take a look at the names of the people he was playing.

If you played Fischer, Fine, Dake, Kashdan, and Santasiere, would you have a plus score?

I also assume that not many, if any, of these games are from the Wisconsin state championships that he won.

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: < Does anyone happen to know why this page "flickers" in some browsers? (I note that others don't do this.)>

It's magic, you know. Never believe it's not so.

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: <OhioChessFan: < Does anyone happen to know why this page "flickers" in some browsers? (I note that others don't do this.)>

It's magic, you know. Never believe it's not so.>

Ah, yes. Magic. What else?

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: Well, magic, or some slightly unstable script on the page.

One or the other.

Aug-14-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Let's try that again:

<Does anyone happen to know why this page "flickers" in some browsers? (I note that others don't do this.)>

Strange magic,
Oh, what a strange magic,
Oh, it's a strange magic.

Aug-16-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: <OhioChessFan: Let's try that again:

<Does anyone happen to know why this page "flickers" in some browsers? (I note that others don't do this.)>

Strange magic,
Oh, what a strange magic,
Oh, it's a strange magic.>

Ah. I should have known your post had something to do with song lyrics, but didn't recognize the reference.

Aug-16-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Shams: <Abdel> You get all kinds of obscure references, but not Electric Light Orchestra??
Aug-16-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  Abdel Irada: <Shams: <Abdel> You get all kinds of obscure references, but not Electric Light Orchestra??>

Like everyone, I know more about some things than about others. As it happens, I don't think I've listened to ELO — or, if I have, I have not been aware of it.

Now, if the reference were to ra'i (say, to Natacha Atlas, Cheb Nasro, Hakim, Amina Annabi, Cheb Mami or any of various other chebs and chebbas), it might be a different matter. :-)

Dec-18-13  solskytz: His rating system's surely Standing in the Rain after all those years
Dec-18-13
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  offramp: The highest Elo rating I've ever seen is Stan Vaughan with the very commendable 3,902. Well over a thousand more than GM Carlsen.
Dec-18-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <offramp>: Shows what all these people know who have debated the merits of such titans as Kasparov, Lasker and Fischer. Even Houdini and Komodo will get toasted if they face the likes of Vaughan.
Dec-18-13  prensdepens: <solskytz: His rating system's surely Standing in the Rain after all those years>

Surely, Arpad ELO's system has stood the test of time. I guess he devised his system because there was nothing available at the time, not mentioning the necessity to have one system to rank them, to be at work right away.

However, with the advance of technology, I guess it is not bad if someone could devise an alternative system which would be more precise, and with which the players and organizers themselves would approve.

Dec-19-13
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: I prefer the BCF system. After all, what is the point of a system that begins at 1,000? Shouldn't ratings begin at 0?

Knitting needles, paper and degrees Reaumur also annoy me. As things get bigger their number gets smaller, so a 1-needle is bigger than a 2-needle and A1 paper is bigger than A2.

Whose idea was that? A midget?

Dec-19-13  RedShield: So what is Magnus's current rating in real money?
Jan-13-14
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  FSR: <prensdepens: ... I guess [Elo] devised his system because there was nothing available at the time>

Not so. Before adopting Elo's system in 1960, the United States Chess Federation used the Harkness rating system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_r... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harkn... That was the system under which players like Bobby Fischer were first rated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby...

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