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| Oct-15-18 | | zanzibar: Looks like <bippy> is back! (*) <FS>'s screed is basically laughable, and would only be accurate if every assertion were negated. I'll report this series of multi-posts (a typical <bippy> tactic) either tonight or tomorrow. It's pure libelous abuse. FWIW- this will be my first contact with the new management through "back"-channels(+). Hopefully the posts will be scrubbed before I need to do so. * * * * *
(*) I suppose it's <bippy>, though <focus> did mention Hogg in one of his recent posts. Given the level of hysteria: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1... it's possible they both caught it from the same source. Reminds me of this kind of "information" sharing: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en... (+)Though, of course, I'm providing public notice of intent with this post. |
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| Oct-15-18 | | Robed.Bishop: The recent postings by <Admins> display a disturbing level of arrogance and lack of respect. Posting a warning message in a user's forum would, to any reasonable user, indicate the warning was meant for that user. I certainly would have. The warning post in <OCF's> forum was misdirected. The reference to WWII law enforcers named for inclement weather did not originate with <OCF> and the warning to <OCF> was unwarranted. If the <Admins> made a mistake by warning the wrong user, then a simple apology would have resolved the issue. That didn't happen. If the <Admins> posted there knowing it wasn't <OCF>, then the <Admins> showed a serious lack of judgment. The <Admin's> follow up comments show a significant lack of respect and certainly will not foster a reasonable conversation, the stated goals of the posting guidelines. The <Admin's> callous approach to <OCF's> responses demonstrate arrogance and a lack of respect. While a heavy-handed approach may have been appropriate in the immediate aftermath of Daniel's death, its time has certainly passed. Civility goes both ways. While respect should be a default starting point between people, continued respect is based on subsequent interactions. In short, if one doesn't want to be referenced as an inclement-weather law enforcer, then one shouldn't act as an inclement-weather law enforcer. Mistakes and disagreement are an inevitable result of discussion forums, but it is how we deal with those mistakes and disagreements that defines the community. In this regard, we depend on the <Admins> to set an example. |
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| Oct-15-18 | | cormier: Russian Team Championship (2018) |
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| Oct-15-18 | | thegoodanarchist: < rogge:
<Perhaps the most honest on the internet> don't be modest.>I have no way to verify it, of course. Just conjecture on my part. |
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| Oct-15-18 | | zanzibar: <Robed.Bishop> I disagree, after a quick glance. You're backing the wrong team - <OCF> and his crew doesn't represent the "good" guys. Just check out <thegoodneega/thegoodneeger> episode, Search Kibitzing And consider the flack an otherwise uninvolved <CG> member took just for helping me find those old posts. Anyways, a sorry racist chapter with basically the same crew as those complaining the loudest today about being "misunderstood". |
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| Oct-15-18 | | zanzibar: And talk about arrogance and lack of respect... again Search Kibitzing |
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Oct-15-18
 | | OhioChessFan: I'll be blowing the whistle on those posts, identifying me as part of a racist chapter, but the link showing nothing remotely indicating such a thing. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | Robed.Bishop: <zanzibar> Thank you for your post, but I’m not backing a team. I’m not interested in vilifying any user or endorsing a point of view other than my own. I read the pertinent posts and saw the <Admin’s> response. I have kept relatively current on other <Admin> postings and the tone used in those situations. As I stated earlier, while a firm tone may have been necessary then, it was not in <OCF’s> case. Indeed, I would argue that the “emergency transition” period is over and it is time to set a tone for how users are to be treated. Of course, that is entirely up to management (as I have said repeatedly), but user input is useful. Everyone here is free to disagree with me, but please do not try to pull me into your war as I do not have a dog in the fight. I form my own opinions and occasionally post them. |
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Oct-16-18
 | | tpstar: <a sorry racist chapter with basically the same crew as those complaining the loudest today about being "misunderstood"> All this time and you still haven't figured it out. If only you knew who is the biggest sockpuppetmaster in site history, and then who is the second biggest sockpuppetmaster in site history, everything falls into place. Good thing someone here has read the Wesley So page from the top. <pure libelous abuse> AIEEE! |
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Oct-16-18
 | | Tabanus: <This website is now officially and decidedly anti-conservative and or anti right leaning.> Great! You've had your 16 years. Now it should be our turn. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | SugarDom: <Tabanus: <This website is now officially and decidedly anti-conservative and or anti right leaning.>
Great! You've had your 16 years. Now it should be our turn.> Nope. Daniel tried to be fair to all parties.
Looks like that's not happening now. But let's take a wait-and-see attitude. |
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Oct-16-18
 | | Tabanus: <Nope. Daniel tried to be fair to all parties.> Yes, I agree to that. Only that he did not succeed, but ended up with a bunch of trumpers he could not handle. Well, that's how I interprete it. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | Keyser Soze: <Yes, I agree to that. Only that he did not succeed, but ended up with a bunch of trumpers he could not handle. Well, that's how I interprete it.> Or maybe <you> and few others could not handle. Whats the problem being a conservative , (or a "trumper")?
Against the rules? Didn't knew that. Just asking anyway.. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | diceman: <Tabanus: <This website is now officially and decidedly anti-conservative and or anti right leaning.> Great! You've had your 16 years. Now it should be our turn.> I don't know who, or what, 16 years you are talking about, but that's what's known as losing. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | zanzibar: <<R.B> Everyone here is free to disagree with me, but please do not try to pull me into your war as I do not have a dog in the fight.> Well, you picked the time and place(s) to weigh in. It looked partisan to me, to tell the truth. <Chessgames> adopted a similar harsh tone several times earlier, and I don't remember you voicing a concern then (unlike, say <Tiggler>). But let me review this - fair and balanced and all that. PS- Did you review the <thegoodneega> episode I cited - in the interest of fairness and all that. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | zanzibar: <FS> quite the frothy foment. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | Robed.Bishop: <zanzibar> Had you read my post more carefully, and prior posts on the subject, you would have seen that I addressed the tone of earlier posts by <Admins>. If my comments there are not clear enough, please let me know. My interest isn't in defending <OCF>, it is preserving the rights of all users regardless of "sides." If it makes you feel better, you can use my language in any other fight where you feel a user is being treated unfairly by an <Admin>. If you disagree that the tone and content of the <Admin's> posts in question are not harsh, that's okay. You can just say so. We don't have to agree. But if you're only saying so because the posts were made to <OCF> in particular, then that's a different reason altogether. I did not and will not address that. That's what I meant by not having a dog in the fight. |
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Oct-16-18
 | | chessgames.com: <<chessgames.com> admin is a PINK PUSSYHAT wearing fascist control freak, bent on taking out his Trump Derangement frustration on only certain members of this forum. His motto: Don't make the liberals mad - because that is <trolling>.> At least <one> member of this Admin, specifically Chessgames.com member <Sargon>—recovering from major surgery, and with 10 pins and a plate in his right ankle and 2 pins in his right knee—passionately <canvassed> for Donald J. Trump in the days leading up to the November 2016 elections, doing his small part in ensuring that candidate's eventual inauguration as America's 45th President. Additionally, <Sargon> positively <loves> to "make the liberals mad". Consequently, the factually incorrect assertions regarding Sargon's ideology—claims which are either laughably presumptive or profoundly misinformed—convincingly illustrate the abject hysteria which can be triggered when transparent and deliberate trolling is met with a markedly uncontroversial rebuke. Chessgames.com member <Sargon>—like <most> reasonable individuals (regardless of political persuasion)—recognizes trolling when he encounters it. Ronald Reagan once said "Don't be afraid to see what you see"—and choosing the handle "Free Speech" does not in any way mitigate clear violations of the posting guidelines of this community. <Sargon> happens to be a staunch libertarian—with beliefs that are very much in harmony with those of the late Daniel Freeman—and he, for one, will <always> endeavor to be fair-minded when acting as Moderator. Finally—although he will doubtless make misjudgments from time to tim—Sargon's moderation duties will invariably be performed with a clear conscience. |
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Oct-16-18
 | | chessgames.com: <SugarDom: (...) [a member's ridiculously unfounded conclusion regarding Chessgames.com's alleged political bias omitted] Daniel tried to be fair to all parties.
Looks like that's not happening now.>
If it does look like that, then it's assuredly due only to coincidence—not intent. Violations of posting guidelines are being reviewed and processed in no particular order for the time being, and presumptions regarding unfairness to any specific party are decidedly premature. <But let's take a wait-and-see attitude.> Word. |
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Oct-16-18
 | | Tabanus: <At least <one> member of this Admin, specifically Chessgames.com member <Sargon> ... <canvassed> for Donald J. Trump> Well I know of only two Admins, Sargon and Susan. There may be more. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | Keyser Soze: Personally I'm liking more this new moderation now.. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | Count Wedgemore: Me too, <Keyser> I'm kind of warming up a little to <Sargon> now.. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | WinKing: I believe that was <Sargon> speaking of himself. That's the impression I got. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | WinKing: Hope you recover quickly <Sargon>. Major surgery is never fun. Been there, done that. |
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| Oct-16-18 | | Count Wedgemore: <WinKing> Hopefully <Sargon> has since long recovered, given that the surgery mentioned was two years ago. Or so it seems to me. |
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