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   Nov-01-22 jessicafischerqueen chessforum (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: Thanks <Fred,> and give my regards to <Mrs Bear> as well!
 
   Sep-07-22 playground player chessforum (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio> lol and the inevitable "defund the police" thrown in there towards the end, almost as if it's so "de rigeur" that he almost forgot to mention it. Interestingly, the informal "street bosses" who step up to occupy the positions of defunded police street ...
 
   Sep-07-22 Susan Freeman chessforum (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: <z> I remember that, unless there was more than one "that" and I missed a few. I recall him flooding the forum with passages from Goethe in order to enrage <Travis Bickle> or; and/or; <Hozza>. Mephistopholes was the work in question. He posted a new ...
 
   Aug-30-22 chessgames.com chessforum (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: <OhioMissScarlettFan> I agree with your sentiment here: <OhioChessFan: <Missy> I appreciate your measured tone throughout this. And I agree a very high % of the time with what you're saying. Really, you're mostly saying what I am already thinking.>
 
   Aug-28-22 perfidious chessforum (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: Your over there regimen sounds salubrious! Interestingly, in Canada we save time by spelling "music and poker" as "moker." Initially we spelled it "poomus" but that sounded a little too declasse, even for us...
 
   Aug-24-22 Kibitzer's Café (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: So the Pacific Ocean can play a boat at chess! Nice one
 
   Aug-24-22 Charles Kalme (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: <wwall: Kalme did not win the 1954 US Junior championship. Ross Siemms won in 1954. scoring 7.5. Kalme and Saul Yarmak tied for 2nd-3rd, scoring 7.> According to Imre Konig in "CHESS LIFE (Volume 8, Number 23, August 5, 1954)" The top 4 finishers were: 1. Siemms ...
 
   Aug-22-22 Carel van den Berg (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: hmm... or the Furman Wikipedia photo is wrong...
 
   Aug-13-22 Biographer Bistro (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: Game Collection: Charousek - Maroczy Game Collection Voting
 
   Aug-10-22 WannaBe chessforum (replies)
 
jessicafischerqueen: <MannBee> sneak preview: TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN, MATE, TIE ME KANGAROO DOWN
 
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Jan-23-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: Thanks you guys, means a lot coming from you in particular.

However, as I was telling the Major yesterday, it's not finished yet. Needs further fact checking and more editing.

Every time I read it I see new mistakes. Similar to the chess documentaries I made, except I can't just "edit" those, I'll have to redo them all by hand.

See you all in 2015!

Jan-23-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: Oh on that note if any of you notice any boners on the <Alexander Petrov> bio please post your corrections here in my forum ok?
Jan-23-13
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  OhioChessFan: <In the Soviet bloc it was dangerous even to mention his name until his rehabilitation in 1989.>

I think such a strong claim demands some sort of citation.

<Certainly, his lack of world renown does not do justice to his achievements over the board.>

I don't expect every bio to be a strictly objective recitation of facts, but this probably crosses the line into fandom.

Maybe "the political turmoil of the USSR kept him from being better known than his achievements deserve."

<Despite these humble beginnings, Petrov was bright >

Lacks nexus.

<He came upon chess almost by accident. He and his friends grew bored with cards and began to play chess.>

You could delete the first line and not miss anything. Lots of people discover chess that way and I doubt they'd say it was by accident.

<Petrov, however, who was now employed by the TASS news agency, had experienced no particular trouble during his trip to Russia, and he tried to assuage her fears. >

You could delete "however, who".

<finishing 2d behind Viacheslav Ragozin, ahead of Alexey Sokolsky, Boleslavsky, Georgy Ilivitsky, and others. >

You could delete "and others".

<There is strong evidence that at least three fellow chess masters denounced Petrov to the authorities.>

Such a strong claim demands a citation.

<When she lost contact with her husband in 1942, Galina Petrov spent the rest of her life trying to find out what happened to him.>

Sort of a weak opening clause to the sentence. How about "Galina Petrov lost contact with her husband in 1942, and spent the rest of her life trying to find out what happened to him."?

Jan-23-13
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  OhioChessFan: <Given conflicting reports of his arrest and detention, she actually moved to Siberia in a vain attempt to find any record he had been at a gulag.>

Another weak opening clause. How about "Galina was given conflicting reports of his arrest and detention, so she moved to Siberia in a vain attempt to find any record he had been at a gulag."?

Jan-23-13  TheFocus: <jess> The following collections became Historical Pages if you want to change the links.

Game Collection: 1959 Santiago

Game Collection: 1959 Zurich

Game Collection: 1961 Bled

Game Collection: 1961 Fischer - Reshevsky Match

Game Collection: Netanya-A 1968

Game Collection: USSR vs. Rest of the World 1970

Game Collection: 1992 Fischer - Spassky Match

<Buenos Aires 1970> is done, but awaiting 3 more games.

I am currently working on <Rovinj/Zagreb 1970>. I should be done before Friday if all the games are present.

<Reykjavic 1960> is missing all the games but Fischer's, but maybe someone has access to Icelandic magazines.

I have submitted the missing games from Bobby's remaining US Championships.

Soon, all of Bobby Fischer's important tournaments will be done!!

Jan-23-13  Travis Bickle: <TheFocus> Focus I just wanted to apologize for getting sarcastic with you the other day on Jessica's forum. I think I've been having a bad month. ; P
Jan-23-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio Editing Fan>

Brilliant! I really can't thank you enough for your notes. I took your advice on each point and made the changes you suggest.

Unfortunately, I can't give page numbers in the footnotes I added- the web page has no page numbers, and the <Galina Petrov> bio page numbers vanish after I plug the Russian text PDF into my "Cyrillic to Roman" converter (in order to translate with the GOOBLE machine).

Jan-23-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Travis> you're a class act in my book and you have the run of my forum. A mate's a mate, most importantly.
Jan-23-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <TheFocus> magic! Well done and thanks for the heads up. I'll get those in the profile after lunch.
Jan-23-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio> with regard to the two passages you suggested supplying footnotes for, I've also re-written them to more accurately reflect what was actually written in the sources.
Jan-23-13  Travis Bickle: Jess I don't know if you ever heard this track from McCartney's first solo album 1970.

Junk - Paul McCartney
http://youtu.be/uAQHhWbImyY

P.S. Here's a song Macca wrote for Frank Sinatra that never happened. Paul used a small portion of this song on his 1st solo album.

Suicide - Paul Mac (during The Beatles White album 1968) http://youtu.be/GN_YLWfQeeo

Jan-23-13
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  OhioChessFan: <The newly crowned Latvian Grandmaster, however, lacked consistency at the top level and he logged uneven international results from 1937-1939.>

I knew there was a second "however" that should be deleted. Maybe "But the newly crowned Latvian Grandmaster lacked consistency at the top level and he logged uneven international results from 1937-1939."

Jan-23-13
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  OhioChessFan: "The newly crowned Latvian Grandmaster" implies the title "Grandmaster" was newly established, or he had become the King of Latvian GM's. The first isn't accurate and the second isn't proven. I know what you're trying to say, but that is a little imprecise. I haven't thought of an alternative yet, but let me think about it.
Jan-24-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio> I just made that clearer, see what you think.
Jan-24-13
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  OhioChessFan: <Petrov also earned the title of Latvian Grandmaster>

What does that mean? Is it like the Russian GM titles? If so, it probably should be clarified along the lines of "....Latvian Grandmaster(awarded by the Latvia FIDE delegation)" or something similar.

Jan-24-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio>

It was an unofficial convention- the convention is described in detail in the <Galina Petrov> bio, but to explain it further in a short bio seems a little lugubrious.

The Latvian connection to FIDE at this time involved nothing more than the Latvian Chess Section organizing delegations to FIDE conferences and picking Olympic squads. There was no such thing as a "Latvian FIDE" chess body that played any role in awarding titles to Latvian players. The Latvian Chess Section took care of this in house. The highest title they had awarded before <Petrov's> shared victory at <Kemeri 1937> was "Master."

It's important to leave in, because the chess journals in Latvia made a big fuss about <Petrov> reaching "Grandmaster" status, and he was also labeled a grandmaster by non-Latvian chess journals and newspapers at the time. Even today the Latvian journals proudly refer to him as the 'first Latvian Grandmaster'. In addition, other players such as <Alekhine> and <Euwe> began referring to him as a Grandmaster after <Kemeri 1937>.

So it was an unofficial convention that enjoyed universal recognition among peers at the time.

What do you think? Is there a brief way to get all of this information into the bio?

Maybe there is. I will review the passage on this in the book tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

Jan-24-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio> Ok I've found the information. I included it in as concise a way as I could, with a footnote.

It's important to disambiguate this, as you said. Here's the long version:

In the era before FIDE began regulating and standardizing the awarding of titles, local national chess federations normally conferred official rankings ranging from Category 3 up to Master.

The Grandmaster title existed in some national federations (such as the USSR and Yugoslavia) but not others. In the case of <Petrov>, the Latvian Chess Section (federation) did not in fact officially confer the title of Grandmaster on him. The highest ranking the Section conferred on any player was "Master" (meaning "National Master").

According to European custom at the time, any Master who played first board in an Olympiad would be recognized (unofficially) as an International Master. So <Fricis Apesenieks> would have been an unofficial International Master according to this convention, despite the fact that the Latvian Chess Section did not offer this title. By the same token, after he played first board at the Warsaw 1935 Olympiad <Petrov> was recognized by European custom as an International Master, but he didn't have this title conferred upon him by the Latvian Chess Section.

Again according to European convention at the time, a local master who won a local tournament that featured at least six foreign Grandmasters would himself be recognized as a Grandmaster. This is what happened in the case of <Petrov> after <Kemeri 1937>. The Latvian Chess Section did not officially confer a Grandmaster title on him, but as per the European convention of the time, the Press and fellow chess players recognized <Petrov> as a Grandmaster and began referring to him as a Grandmaster.

This general state of affairs in Europe was further complicated by "roving masters" such as <Rudolph Spielmann>, who didn't really belong to any one country or chess federation on a permanent basis.

Many European "Grandmasters" at this time didn't have official Grandmaster titles per se. So for example, <Spielmann's> peers, and the European press, would refer to him as a Grandmaster, but in his lifetime, this title was never officially conferred upon him by any national chess federation.

If you can think of a way to make the new passage in the bio read better, please give me your suggestion.

Jan-24-13
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  OhioChessFan: <Ok I've found the information. I included it in as concise a way as I could, with a footnote.>

I agree that is the most concise method.

<So for example, <Spielmann's> peers, and the European press, would refer to him as a Grandmaster, but in his lifetime, this title was never officially conferred upon him by any national chess federation>

Unbelievable.

<If you can think of a way to make the new passage in the bio read better, please give me your suggestion.>

Maybe.........

<Petrov also earned the title of Grandmaster, due to a widely recognized convention in European chess at this time. If a home town player won a tournament in which at least six foreign Grandmasters participated, then that player would also be recognized as a Grandmaster.>

Petrov also earned the title of Grandmaster, due to a widely recognized convention in European chess at this time that if a home town player won a tournament in which at least six foreign Grandmasters participated, then that player would also be recognized as a Grandmaster.

Maybe a footnote after "recognized convention" citing Spielmann and any other high profile recipients.

Jan-24-13  Travis Bickle: Hi Jess, I always thought the track 'Junk' was a great song. Paul did an instrumental reprise of the song on side two of the record. When I went to see McCartney in Chicago in 1989 with a pair of 200 dollar tickets, 8th row center stage, they were playing this song on the auditorium speakers. ; P

Sing-a-Long Junk - Paul McCartney
http://youtu.be/4psATfz9c1c

Jan-24-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <T-Diddy> what a great idea for a video, just the music for those who know the words and want to sing. Also, great photos of Paul with his children, put together with proper video editing software. Looks gorgeous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4psA...

Jan-24-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <Ohio> I changed the sentence to your version, but I don't think an extra footnote is necessary telling about the case of <Spielmann>.

He is very much the rule, not the exception.

Before 1950, even countries that had chess federations that conferred Grandmaster titles didn't do so at all times. For example, the Soviet Union abolished the title at one point, then brought it back.

You know who else didn't have the title conferred by a chess federation is <Lasker> <Capablanca> <Alekhine> <Tarrasch> and <Marshall>.

More, Edward Winter regards it likely that the story that the Czar gave these men the Grandmaster title is apocryphal.

Jan-24-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <TheFocus> excellent, and thanks for the heads up- new collections in the profile. Soon you will have Bobby archived properly in replayable game format, for the first time anywhere.

I know the admins appreciate your hard work on this and your other projects. I certainly do.

Jan-27-13  TheFocus: Thank you <jess>. It is very satisfying work.

Now we can include Rovinj/Zagreb (1970).

I don't want to nominate <Buenos Aires 1970> until the last three games are included. I am resubmitting them just in case they got lost in the interim.

Jan-27-13
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  jessicafischerqueen: <TheFocus> what has been the average wait time on bulk game submissions these days?

I have a block of <St Petersburg 1914> games and a block of <petrov> games I'm currently preparing for submission.

What do you estimate the wait time to be?

Are you guys greasing the wheels by pestering Daniel?

I remember I waited several months for some Charousek game submissions. So I emailed Daniel and he said he never saw the submission.

The next day they were all in the data base.

??

Jan-27-13  TheFocus: <TheFocus> <what has been the average wait time on bulk game submissions these days?>

I would say several weeks/months.

What is frustrating is when some of the games appear, but others in the same tournament do not.

Alekhine's <Mexico City 1932> is an example. On Friday, 26 of 28 appeared, but two did not. Same with another tournament. 2 still missing.

This has been the case in every set of submissions that I have made.

Big backlog.

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