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Aug-16-13
 | | WCC Editing Project: "Can we put a monkey in it?"
<toneboe> I was just thinking what sub genre would this one go in? I want to vote for it but I'm not sure which nomination category. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LCN... |
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| Aug-16-13 | | Travis Bickle: Here's another breakthrough runner up.
What's scary is this track is only mono, not even a stereo mix version and it sounds extremely avant garde ; P http://youtu.be/tisjsgsgtZU |
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Aug-16-13
 | | WCC Editing Project: Great choice <Travis> it's really taking me back to the 500 HOUR LONG Beatles documentary I watched twice. I hadn't been aware of "Tomorrow Never Knows" before and it is truly fantastical. Also that Ringo accidentally came up with the title. |
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| Aug-16-13 | | Travis Bickle: Jinx! I was just thinking of that breakthrough McCartney track. ; P That is strictly a McCartney composition. I think the genre would be innovative ballad with a quartet added to the song. Here's another breakthrough for McCartney, Rock genre.
http://youtu.be/xoJGDC10lZw |
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Aug-16-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: heh <TONGBONESTEAKS> No opposition to "Sgt. Pepper."
What about category of "linked songs" or "mini opera," that genre that Pete Townshend worked so well in The Who? I vote for this sequence as best Beatles "mini opera," because these songs are in fact linked in theme as well as music- the songs make a unit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qP4... |
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| Aug-16-13 | | Travis Bickle: you're right on the money with that Beatles medley Jessica Van Beethoven! P.S. I think you're talking about Pete Townsend's work on Tommy the 1st Rock Opera! Here's Elton from the film Tommy
http://youtu.be/ePiGVI2Hs-g
P.S. I think Sgt Pepper was the beginning of progressive rock. |
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Aug-16-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <TOBLERONE> yes, but not just on Tommy. Here is Pete's first "Mini Opera" and one of my all time favorite tracks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuCQ... |
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| Aug-16-13 | | Travis Bickle: Can we put a monkey in it? Sure come to my forum! ; P Great Title by the way LOL! |
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Aug-16-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <sgt.Peppy> Yes, we talked about that before recently in fact. It predates Prog Rock.
You likely won't go wrong in any pop music discussion if you point out "The Beatles did it first." |
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| Aug-16-13 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Jess what a fun 1 on 1 jam session on music, mostly species Beatle. ; P |
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Aug-16-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Yes and it's when we do this that I realize just how much I've been schooled on The Beatles since I met you. It's a much better school than the one where you have to bring books and the teacher hits you with a ruler. I still remember "Mrs. Unwin."
We called her "Mrs Onion." |
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| Aug-16-13 | | Travis Bickle: Another Great track from Let It Bleed.
http://youtu.be/7S94ohyErSw |
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Aug-17-13
 | | wwall: If I had to start over, perhaps I should have sourced every anecdote or fact about chess. I do have a chess library of over 5,000 volumes and have written over 1,000 chess articles in a variety of chess magazines since 1970, and on the Internet, and some errors or wrong facts will pop up. I used to have a web account on chess (and a chess magazine), but they are no longer active and have not gone in to correct or add much there. I have not made anything up, took what I read somewhere else, and have corrected what I could or updated or made new articles based on the facts or research that I have found. I am certainly no professional historian like Winter or Hilbert, but write for the fun of it, as correct as can be, and have not made a penny for any of my efforts. An Italian wrote a wiki bio on me, but the Wiki police pulled it, noting I was not "notable enough" in the chess world (it is still on the Russian Wiki page, however, but in Russian). At the time, I was correcting dozens of errors on Wikipedia in chess articles (and sourcing them), but after that, I have not made one change on any Wiki page. I still see dozens of errors or typos on Wiki chess articles, but leave them alone. I have probably done over 100 bios and additions here at chessgames.com and hopefully am as accurate as possible. My main interest was chess miniatures, and wrote over 30 books (the 500 Miniature series and irregular openings), before databases and the Internet took over. I was editor of several chess club and state chess magazines, and always contributed an article or two, but more for entertainment rather than sourced and footnoted and peer reviewed. |
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Aug-17-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Bill>
Thank you for dropping by with such an explanatory post. Just to put it in the context of what you're replying to, I'll repost some of what I wrote earlier. These are excerpts from a post in which I address <Karpova> about her question, "what do I think of Bill Wall's web pages": <Bill's material on chess is about equal to the general wikipedia norm, which makes it no surprise to see his pages cited there. He was one of the first to post a large number of biographical sketches on the internet. Mainly what he did, I think, is read through his own library and post whatever he found in his books...The thing is- most of the basic info about chess masters in Wikipedia and Bill's pages is true... That said- there are serious flaws as we know. Lack of reliable cited contemporaneous sources, the propagation of hoary chess myths and legends, and a generally sloppy approach to fact checking... But there remain serious factual errors in every "documentary" I've posted on youtube. I don't deny the mistakes, when I find them or they are pointed out by others... But I also haven't taken down the videos or re-edited them... Bill can correct his web pages more easily, although I'm not sure they are all posted on "recent" servers- I'm not sure he has access to edit them all without redoing them and reposting them on a new server. Anyways, as I've said, in the two cases I had personal involvement in, <<<Bill promptly re-edited>>> the pages in question.> <Bill> I too am currently suffering from the the feeling "if I had to do it over again, I'd cite everything" with respect to the chess history videos I put up on youtube. There are way too many errors in them and it would be very difficult to do anything about that now except take them down and re-do them from scratch. But that's what the future's for. These days,I'm keeping track of where I get every fact now whilst researching the next chess history videos I'm currently making. ###################
In addition, we are now in the process of editing the History of the World Chess Championship, and I wonder if you might have time/inclination to help us? We could benefit greatly from your experience and your vast chess library. If you are interested, here is how we are doing it. First, we made a forum to do the work in here- WCC Editing Project chessforum Second, we made "mirror games collections" for each of the existing WCC series events- we can edit these directly. After we are finished all of them, we'll submit all our edits to <Daniel Freeman> at one time. Here's an example of one of our Mirror Collections, you can see the original intro in black italicized characters, and our edited information in colored un-italicized text: Game Collection: WCC: Alekhine-Euwe 1935 Finally, any Cg.com member, including you, is welcome to post any edit information they have on our forum pages. I then transfer that information directly on to the Mirror games collections (because I have the password- heh). Anyways it's really good to hear from you again.
Warm regards,
Jessica Fischer |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Karpova: <Bill Wall>
My thoughts on the topic are the following:
I think that your work should be regarded as a preliminary collection and interpretation of facts, a pioneering work at the beginning of the Internet Age, when it became available to a large public. Certainly, to check and double-check all your work on chess history is too much to attempt for a single man, especially if not a professional chess historian. And you were ahead of your time, as an infrastructue like now did not exist. I mean an infrastructure, which allows many people to work with your collection, discuss it and improve it. And it furthermore happened, that your work was often simply copy/pasted somewhere else and presented as gospel. The results were, that your work was now not entirely under your control (or at all) anymore, and it was in a way petrified. Instead of a template for deepening, correcting and enriching, it had become a finished product simply by arresting its development. I don't think that you can be blamed for this and I don't see any ill-will in your conduct. You were ahead of your time, back when the means to deal with such complex issues were simply not present in the World Wide Web. |
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Aug-17-13
 | | wwall: Good project. Will try ti help out wherever I can. |
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Aug-17-13
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Bill> Thank you!
It would be marvelous if you stopped by. You're welcome to contribute information at any time. |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Travis Bickle: Hi Jess, here's an interesting instrumental by The Fab 4. Flying - (from The Magical Mystery Tour album)
http://youtu.be/qFrpclWP3eQ |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Travis Bickle: Here is probably my favorite McCartney acoustic Beatles song. Blackbird
http://youtu.be/7epRPz0LGPE |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Travis Bickle: Here's Macca talking about his Blackbird sequel decades later from his Chaos & Creation In The Backyard album of a few years ago. Jenny Wren - Paul Mac Live
http://youtu.be/bPRSsYGKcJc |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Robed.Bishop: <JFK> I just saw your recent posts in the chapel. The roof didn't fall down when you came in, so you must be okay. I will check back there more frequently so we don't miss an opportunity, and thank you for your kind words. Sometimes a little goes a long way. As for the visitors, I can afford the caviar and the Dom Perignon because I have so few guests. I peaked after I posted the stories, shortly after the armistice. My haircutter's son is currently stationed in South Korea. Please feel free to stop by and say hello to him. Good luck in your historical pursuits. |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Boomie: <Jessie>
I've been enjoying the "Live" commentary of the FIDE Crapshoot. Since the games start in the morning which is a time of day I only hear about on occasion, having a good, old fashioned, Don Dunphy blow by blow is essential. Polgar and Trent work without engines, thank Gort. Their enthusiasm for the game is infectious. |
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| Aug-17-13 | | Boomie: <Jessie: "What would Douglas Bader do"?> I understand his wingman was Legs Diamond. |
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Aug-17-13
 | | OhioChessFan: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/... |
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| Aug-18-13 | | Karpova: It's escalating: Jens Kotainy |
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