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| Jan-05-14 | | Boomie: <Jess: presumably to remind us to be happy there was boloney and mustard inside> Are you sure that was boloney? Perhaps it was for making a Chikatilo sandwich. |
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Jan-05-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: heh...
I really hope you're not one of those folks who obsessively seek out and watch every single serial killer documentary uploaded to youtube. Doh! What a giveaway.
At any rate, that's a reference I *did* get.
There are two excellent films about Russia's most notorious cannibal- I favor the one with <Malcom McDowell> as "Coldcutsilo". |
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Jan-05-14
 | | OhioChessFan: <One of his postcards, featuring a bookish man and an embarrassed pretty woman sitting under a tree, with the caption: "Do you like Kipling?" / "I don't know, you naughty boy, I've never kippled!", holds the world record for selling the most copies, at over 6 million.> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...
http://patricknicholas.files.wordpr... |
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Jan-05-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Good Heavens, it appears the truth is even darker than I suspected... I'll not go into the first time I kippled. |
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| Jan-05-14 | | hms123: <Jess>
<hms123: <achieve> Yes, a verb--but only in the punch line to an old joke:
Boy to girl--Do you like Kipling?
Girl responds (blushing)--I don't know. I've never kipled.> The World vs N Pogonina, 2010 (from nov. 15, 2010) |
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Jan-05-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <H>
Brilliant find!
That will come in handy when you sue <Ohio> for copyright infringement. I suggest you put yourself in contact with yourself and get the paperwork started. |
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| Jan-05-14 | | hms123: <Jess>
I already have. |
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Jan-05-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Nice work <H>.
I've always admired your ability to get ahold a valuable lawyer like <hms123> at such short notice. Speaking of silliness beyond the pale, and past pieces, did you know that <Eyal> once accepted the nickname <carbon>, and even posted in response to that name, detailing his atomic composition? His post was quickly deleted. When I asked him why, he responded that while he would accept <kraba> or even <cabin> as a nickname, <carbon> was just "too silly." Imagine the nerve! |
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| Jan-05-14 | | hms123: <jess>
Ah, the good old days. I do wish <Eyal> would post more often. I liked <kraba> the best out of his many jessicanames. |
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Jan-05-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <H> I miss <Eval> terribly, but I love him too much to try to tempt him to come back here as a regular. I know he is very busy with his ground breaking academic work. I know it's ground breaking because I read lots of it. Did you know that many people thought he was "Eval" because the bottom of the "y" gets cut off by the underlining? I think that's the most important fact I ever posted in this forum. |
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| Jan-06-14 | | john barleycorn: <jessicafischerqueen> <The following is generally agreed to be the 'official' debut of the Evans Gambit. It first appeared in William Lewis's 1832 game collection, when the normal practice was not to name the contestants, and it was Walker who later wrote: 'This game occurred upon Captain E's first showing his new Gambit to McDonnell.' > It is agreed on which basis? On the the remark <This game occurred upon Captain E's first showing his new Gambit to McDonnell.>. Imo, this does not say that it was the official debut of his invention. It says that this game (gambit accepted) occurred upon the first showing to M'Donnell. It does not exclude the possibility that the Brandreth game was played earlier than the M'Donnell game. |
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Jan-06-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <john barleycorn>
Interesting. Might you re-post your analysis at the <Captain's House>? Captain William Davies Evans
You raise important points that I think should be part of the permanent posting record on the player page. Posts in here tend to disappear quickly amid discussions of "carbon" and "magic mushrooms." While I'm here though, I'll report that every one of Harding's words about this topic (from his 2012 book) that I have, you and everyone else now also has. So your guess is as good as anyone's about how Harding arrived at the assumption you mention. I think there's no doubt that it would have been a good idea for him to make a note there listing some other people involved in this "general acceptance." |
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Jan-06-14
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Do You Like Kipping?> was Game of the Day back in 2009... Morphy vs Kipping, 1858 |
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| Jan-06-14 | | john barleycorn: <jessicafischerqueen> many years ago I had a friend contacting Harding as we were looking at the Evans Gambit. I just recall Dr. Harding's (the Dr. is important now!) reply was ...what it was. Kind of the <Irish AJ>, imo. |
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Jan-06-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <JB> Aha. I'm not sure I have the exact gist of your post there, but I'm going to take a stab. You and a mate were over the chessboard looking at the Evans Gambit together whilst drinking Irish whiskey. You had a dispute over the provenance, and wagered. In order to prove his side of the bet, your friend telephoned <Tim Harding> in the middle of the night. The good doctor replied, but you were not satisfied with his answer. I will mail you burritos if you tell me <Tim Harding's> phone number. On a slightly more serious note, I think your previous post raised a good question, and I think it deserves to sit over on <The Captain and Tenille's> player page as an interrogation of <Harding's> recent published work on the gambit. Just in case you didn't notice, I reposted the previous <Harding> material on the <Cpt. Evans> player page, with the additions I promised you this morning. The additions amount to an extra paragraph at the beginning, an extra paragraph at the end, and two extra notes in the NOTES section. |
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| Jan-06-14 | | john barleycorn: Dr. H. came across arrogant and not so keen to logical reasoning. But that is past. I'm just "unhappy" to see that you skipped some usefool information from Hardings's book. Like :
"...Sir William Hamilton (1731 - 1803) whose wife, Emma, notoriously had an affair with Lord Nelson." and "It is possible that young William [Evans] met Nelson." |
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Jan-06-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <JB>
LOL! You had the same book as me the whole time?
Yes, the details you cite seem a little phantasmagorical and certainly they require a primary source, which is not given. As you report, the two quotes you give are right there in <Harding's> "Eminent Victorian Chess Players" (MacFarland 2012), pp.9-10. <J&B> I suppose the "asterisk" note for the whole chapter at the bottom of p.9 might be considered some kind of a disclaimer, in that it reports that the chapter relies "on a genealogical chronology researched and provided by Ward [Evan's great-great-great-granddaughter]." Kind of weak though when you consider that some self-told family histories seem to gravitate towards the apocryphal. I think your comments on these two quotes also deserve to be placed on the <Captain Blood> player page as well. I hadn't thought I'd left anything out of my replies to you, since you asked me to post what <Harding> said about the origin of the Evan's gambit in the book. I took this to be the topic you were interested in. At any rate I was happy to examine the material on Evans, and look more deeply at some of the primary sources documenting a few of the disputed games and disputed years. As you know, many of the old books <Harding> cites are in the public domain and I downloaded a few of them after work today to go in "for a closer look." More of that on the <Captain Kidd> player page, in response to an intriguing "dating point" raised there by <thomastonk> in this post: Captain William Davies Evans I have read <Harding's> "Eminent Victorian Chess Players" cover to cover, but so far I have only studied one of the chapters in depth- the one on <Loewenthal>, which I used as a starting point to write the bio here- Johann Jacob Loewenthal. |
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| Jan-06-14 | | john barleycorn: <jessicafischerqueen: <JB> LOL! You had the same book as me the whole time? > Just had a look inside the book at amazon. And when I read what was on the first few pages I decided not to buy. |
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Jan-06-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Aha!
I appreciate you clearing up yet another mystery.
I certainly won't quibble with your decision based on running into those perhaps unfortunately placed claims (at the beginning). I don't regret buying the book- Obviously I haven't vetted it, but on those occasions I had to investigate several of <Harding's> sources that I also had access to, he got the information correct. I have a question if you'd care to give your opinion. Which chess history book(s) do you regard to be the best, or among the best, you've read? Maybe a short list of such books that you read quite closely? |
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| Jan-06-14 | | john barleycorn: Sorry, I haven't read any books on chess history. |
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| Jan-06-14 | | thegoodanarchist: < jessicafischerqueen: ...
Which chess history book(s) do you regard to be the best, or among the best, you've read? Maybe a short list of such books that you read quite closely?> I know this wasn't addressed to me, but "How to Get Better at Chess: Chess Masters on Their Art", by Evans, Silman and Roberts, has multiple pages of anecdotes that I would describe as chess history trivia. "The Life and Games of Mikhail Tal" (by some fellow named Mischa) is also a good source of chess history. |
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Jan-06-14
 | | jessicafischerqueen: My good <thegood>
Thanks for your submissions.
I hadn't heard of the first book you mention, but for all I know I already have it somewhere in my gigantic E-book library featuring 90,000 chess books I've never even looked at. I'll take a gander. I agree that Tal's autobiography is great. I have a tattered and torn copy beaten up by many re-readings. What a wonderful writer he is eh? |
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Jan-07-14
 | | harrylime: <jessicafischerqueen: <Hozza>
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...
It is indeed an interesting snippet, and the second time you've posted it too. Thanks for finding and sharing it! I have added it to the "articles" section of the Bobby Fischer shrine in my profile as "article 10." In the meantime, I have a musical history question for you. "4 AD Label"- Bollocks, or Brilliant?
I need your opinion on this.
Here is my favorite <4 AD> track, but it's also one of the most well known. I'm not an expert- hence my question- I like <Elizabeth Fraser> a fair bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFW>...
4 AD has to be brilliant !
They were integral and essential to the indie scene in Britain in the 80's and 90's .. I for one will be forever in their debt ! Throwing Muses and Belly and of course the Cocteaus ect ect .. So many cool artists .. Did'nt realise I'd already posted the Bobby link on your forum Jess apologies .. Love the bit about Bobby cleaning out the fridge ! |
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Jan-07-14
 | | harrylime: Yes and Liz Frasers' voice got me thru adolescence relatively unharmed lol .. The voice of an angel to a 16 year old boy .. (ok that was uber uber early 80's lol ) |
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| Jan-07-14 | | cormier: a movie for jfq ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq7E... ..... i hope you like it ..... |
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