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| Oct-12-07 | | twinlark: <Open Defence>
<Deffi> I doubt anyone is going to hold you responsible for other people not engaging with <12.Bf4>, or for not doing it all yourself. My comments were <not> in any way directed at you. This is a systemic issue. |
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Oct-12-07
 | | Open Defence: <twinlark> true, but the little things like updating the forum and posting a line draw the other analysts, so I guess there was a tiny bit of slack :) ..... but will work to try and drum up some work on this line :) |
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| Oct-12-07 | | zanshin: <twinlark: My $0.02: "others" don 't seem to attract that much interest.> <twinlark> The degree of interest and importance of an "Other moves" forum can be determined in large part by the selection of moves <kutz> uses in assigning forums. A conservative approach, assigning fewer forums to highly likely moves, increases the visibility of this forum. And vice versa. |
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Oct-12-07
 | | jessicafischerqueen: Happy vacation to you.
Why is <Artar> quitting the team? Thank you for all of your organizational skill.
Regards,
JFQ |
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| Oct-12-07 | | twinlark: Hey Jess
He's back. I think he was overworking himself a bit and a tiff with one of the analysts decided him to take a short break. Hmm...can a situation <decide> a person to do something? yrs
decidedly doggimus |
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Oct-12-07
 | | kutztown46: <JFQ>: Thank you. |
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Oct-13-07
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
*** <Analysis of 12…Ne4> User: zanshin *** <Analysis of 12…c5> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 12…Qe8> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 12…a6> User: Waitaka *** <Analysis of 12…cxd5> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of 12…a5> User: Deep Breath *** <Analysis of all others> User: benjinathan |
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| Oct-14-07 | | twinlark: <kutztown>
As promised, here are the temporary forums, basically as you posted them in your previous message, but with the <12...Qe8> forum split into two. Here's a copy of the message (without hotlinks) I left on the main thread: <Everyone>
Here are the slightly revised forum postings. <12...Qe8> is causing some concern and analysis of this move has been spread into two forums, as set out below. *** <Analysis of 12...Ne4> User: zanshin *** <Analysis of 12...c5> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 12...Qe8 Bf4> and other responses <except 12...Be3> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 12...Qe8 Be3> Open Defence chessforum *** <Analysis of 12...a6> User: Waitaka *** <Analysis of 12...cxd5> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of 12...a5> User: Deep Breath *** <Analysis of all others> User: benjinathan For the sake of chronological continuity, please hold off on posting into <Open Defence>'s forum for the moment, until someone copies the <13.Be3> analyses into it. Hi <Thorsson>, welcome back. |
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| Oct-15-07 | | twinlark: <kutztown>
So you don't have to go hunting for it on the min thread, here's a temporary forum update for today: Temporary forums update:
<Analysis of 12...Ne4> User: zanshin Status: completed - line refuted.
<Analysis of 12...c5> User: dalbertz Status: completed - line refuted.
<Analysis of 12...Qe8 Bf4> and other responses <except 12...Be3> User: Red October Status: Extensive analysis ongoing
<Analysis of 12...Qe8 Be3> Open Defence chessforum Status: Extensive analysis ongoing
<Analysis of 12...a6> User: Waitaka Status: Very little discussion so far, although some raw analysis by RV-Rybka and my Shredder indicate that this is a real possibility for Black. More work needed urgently. <Analysis of 12...cxd5> User: mckmck Status: Almost no work done on this line. Needed urgently. <Analysis of 12...a5> User: Deep Breath Status: Ongoing. Extensive discussion has recommenced. Rybka's favoured variation. <Analysis of all others> User: benjinathan Status: Analysis of <12...h6> and <12...Qc8> has commenced. |
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| Oct-16-07 | | twinlark: <kutztown46>
Here are the temporary forums set up for Black's <12...a5>: *** <Analysis of 13.dxc6> Deep Breath chessforum ________________________ *** <Analysis of 13.Be3> Waitaka chessforum ______________________________ *** <Analysis of 13.Bf4> Red October chessforum __________________________ *** <Analysis of 13.Bg5> mckmck chessforum ______________________ *** <Analysis of Ng5> zanshin chessforum __________________________________ *** <Analysis of 13.Qb3> dalbertz chessforum ________________________________ *** <Analysis of all others> User: benjinathan ___________________________ In addition to this, <chesstoplay> has established a new permanent forum for handy tips and hints about using chess engines. It's title (and subtitle for the Stickies) may not be finalised yet, but should be by the time you return. In the meantime I've posted it as he's described it on my bio |
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| Oct-17-07 | | twinlark: <kutztown46>
The following is copied from the main thread and is self-explanatory: <EVERYONE> especially <MarkThornton>, <ajile>, <Boomie>, <Plato>, <kwgurge>, <capafan>, <Deep Breath>, <rinus>, <acirce>, <pacorrum>, <imag>, <Hugin>, <Thorsson> The vote for move 13 is a one horse race with <13.dxc6> trotting off with the prize, with 95% of the analysis and a huge majority of the votes being focussed on this move. Without pre-empting the result of the vote in this move, the sheer volume of analysis has caused some difficulties. The <13.dxc6> line has two main subvariations, both of which are undergoing intensvie analysis, namely <A> <13...bxc6> and <B> <13...Bxc6>. Variation B <13...Bxc6> has been lost in the shuffle surrounding variation A <bxc6>, so I've opened a new forum at Red October chessforum for variation B, and consolidated all the posts I could find on <Deep Breath>'s forum and the main thread here into that forum. In other words most or all of the analyses for <13.bxc6 Bxc6> is now in one place to assist analysts who are having trouble keeping track of where it all is. Again, I ask all analysts to post their results to the relevant forum to keep the discussion as centred and focused as possible. |
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| Oct-17-07 | | twinlark: Update of temporary forums (linked to marker posts)
*** <Analysis of 13.dxc6 dxc6> Deep Breath chessforum *** <Analysis of 13.dxc6 Bxc6> Red October chessforum *** <Analysis of 13.Be3> Waitaka chessforum *** <Analysis of 13.Bg5> mckmck chessforum *** <Analysis of Ng5> zanshin chessforum *** <Analysis of 13.Qb3> dalbertz chessforum *** <Analysis of all others> User: benjinathan |
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| Oct-19-07 | | twinlark: Temporary forums
<Analysis of 13…bxc6 14.c5 Ne4> User: Deep Breath <Analysis of 13…bxc6 14.c5 d5> User: Waitaka <Analysis of 13…Bxc6 14.c5> User: Red October <Analysis of 13…Bxc6 14.DSB moves> User: zanshin <Analysis of other responses to 13…bxc6 and 13.Bxc6> User: benjinathan |
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| Oct-19-07 | | twinlark: Temporary forum update
I'm reposting this because of the new position of the marker link in <Waitaka>'s forum. <Analysis of 13…bxc6 14.c5 Ne4> Deep Breath chessforum <Analysis of 13…bxc6 14.c5 d5> Waitaka chessforum <Analysis of 13…Bxc6 14.c5> Red October chessforum <Analysis of 13…Bxc6 14.DSB moves> zanshin chessforum <Analysis of other responses to 13…bxc6 and 13.Bxc6> benjinathan chessforum |
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Oct-19-07
| | kutztown46: <capafan>: I would like to discuss your idea for a forum. As we get into the middle game, it will be less likely that I will need alternates. So you certainly have my blessing to try something different. My only question is whether the work you contemplate is best done in your own forum, or in the other temporary forums. As I understand it, you want to find black's best response(s) to a particular white move or sequence of moves, and determine if our plans hold up. Apparently, there was something similar in the GMAN game which was called a <Devil's Advocate> forum. I like the idea but I wonder if the concept would be better advanced if you would roam the other temporary analysis forums (focusing on those receiving the most attention or on the move receiving the most votes). You would function as the team <skeptic>, questioning whether all reasonable black responses to a given white move have been investigated. Your thoughts? |
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| Oct-19-07 | | twinlark: Welcome back, <kutztown46> You should be able to salvage a brick or two from the smoking rubble. Just joking. I see you've most things covered, so there's not much to brief you on. You might like to take a look at the last page or so on my forum if you haven't already. You'll see that <zanshin> looks ready and capable also to step into the breach if the occasion requires it. A couple of minor changes I made were to include marker posts with FENs on each forum and link the temporary forum update to these, rather than to the current page of that forum. This brings people to the beginning of the analysis which may be useful if there are several pages of it. <zanshin>, I forgot to mention that it may be equally useful to do the same for the Stickies. Obviously your call whether you want to continue doing this or not. Let me know if you want any more help with anything. I can resume my roaming role as one of the Freelance Nuisance Brigade and I get to sleep in again (moves happen at 2am). I'm not as young as I was last year... |
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| Oct-19-07 | | zanshin: <twinlark> Yes, I figured you'd prefer to use the link to the marker posts in the stickies. Let me do that if you haven't already. While I appreciate the vote of confidence, I am *so* glad you were here to do the forum assignments. And of course you have earned its respect and I'm still pretty new. |
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Oct-19-07
| | kutztown46: <twinlark>,<zanshin>: I will be away again in April for two whole weeks (my wife and I are going on a 10-day cruise to celebrate our 25th anniversary) and so I will need someone to fill in at that time also. <twinlark>, I never gave it a thought that the moves happen at 2 AM for you. I admire your dedication. <zanshin>, think it over for the next few months. It would be nice if you would consider assigning the forums. It would be a growing experience for you. <twinlark>, I did notice how you linked to marker posts on your forum lists. I thought that was very clever, but I'm not sure that would be preferred by everyone. If the forum host has a summary (not all do) I think I would rather take the team member to the top of the forum page to see the summary if one exists. Also, my personal preference when I visit a temporary forum is to go to the last page, not the beginning of the analysis. But that is just me. Perhaps I should ask the team which way they prefer. The other consideration is that with my simpler approach, I can have the forum lists ready as a Word document ahead of time. That is why you will frequently see my forum assignments within a minute of the move being made. Your method is more sophisticated but takes more time. |
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| Oct-19-07 | | JoeWms: <kutztown46: My wife and I are going on a 10-day cruise to celebrate our 25th anniversary and so I will need someone to fill in at that time.> My wife is going on a 10-day cruise and I will need someone to fill in at that time. |
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| Oct-20-07 | | twinlark: <kutztown>
As you say. It's your call and whatever you do will be OK. You've streamlined the system that Domdaniel, OhioChessFan and myself developed into a well oiled process. I second <jessicafischerqueen>'s tribute to your organisational skills, and your dedication to this job. One slightly frustrating problem is getting people to post their analyses in the forums, and to take up on all the leading moves. Hopefully, the resident <Forum Reporter>, and <sentriclecub> data tree may serve as a prompt and a reminder for our analysts. I'm still wondering whether I'll take on being the <Fat Cajoler>, as well as the resident <Forum Reporter>. Yesterday, I was also the <Senior Troll Bouncer (Grade 1)> for a few moments when a troll wandered in from under a bridge and left slime lying around the place, but thankfully he's gone. Never a dull moment around this place...
Keep up the great work.
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| Oct-20-07 | | zanshin: <twinlark> I too never thought about such a large time difference. I guess I'm spoiled living just a few hours drive from CG headquarters. So thanks from me too for staying up till 2 am to wait for the moves! <kutz> I started linking the stickies to the marker posts and also wondered if the Team would prefer linking to the start of the discussion for a move, or the end we used to do. Maybe we should ask. As for forum assignments, ok I'll think about it. I don't mind a growing experience, but not at the cost of the Team. So we'll find a way to get you on your cruise, even if I have to make the assignments in consultation with others. |
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Oct-20-07
| | kutztown46: <zanshin>: Maybe a good compromise (if you are willing) would be for you to create the marker posts and link to them from the sticky, while on <Forum Central> and my posts with the temporary forum list, I will continue to link just to the forums. That way, if someone wants to link to the beginning of the analysis, they can go through the sticky. On the other hand, if someone wants to go to the last page of the forum, they can go through <Forum Central>. What do you think? |
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| Oct-20-07 | | zanshin: <kutz> I'm willing to try your suggestion of linking the forums to marker posts. However, I've had to re-do them twice. For some reason the pages keep shifting by one. If we find this method to be unreliable long term, we'll need to go back to just linking to the forum to avoid confusion. And as <twinlark> has mentioned, if the forum host deletes the marker, then it defaults to the top of the page. |
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| Oct-20-07 | | twinlark: <zanshin>
I just posted a <State of the Forums Report> on the main thread and all your marker links I used to access the forums worked fine. |
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| Oct-20-07 | | zanshin: <twinlark: I just posted a <State of the Forums Report> on the main thread and all your marker links I used to access the forums worked fine.> <twinlark> Thanks, good to know. The first time I edited the stickies, I had trouble with Waitaka's, because of the deleted marker post. Tested all the links and found them to work. The next day, two were mysteriously off by one page .. still don't know what happened. |
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