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| Nov-15-08 | | Red October: <kutztown46> yes I am willing to continue to be a forum host |
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| Nov-16-08 | | dotsamoht: No temporary forums posted? |
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Nov-16-08
 | | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if white plays 19. c3)
*** <Analysis of 19...<h4>> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 19...<Kg8>> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of 19...<Ne5>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 19...<Qb6>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of 19...<g6>> User: classF *** <Analysis of 19...<Qd8>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 19...<Qc5>> User: ajile *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <Dionyseus>, <Red October> Other black 19th moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 19...Ba8, Re8, Rh6, Qa5, Nb6
Note: I have not forgotten the admonition to have forums for variations, not moves. In this case, however, all seven of these moves have been mentioned by the team. It would be wrong to exclude any of them. |
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| Nov-16-08 | | hms123: <kutz> slight miscommunication on my part--more explanation on its way. sorry--hms |
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Nov-18-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if black plays 19...h4)
*** <Analysis of 20. <Rhe1> <Rh6>> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 20. <Rhe1> <Qb6>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 20. <Rhe1> <Nf6>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 20. <Rhe1> <Qc5>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 20. <Bc2>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 20. <Rhg1>> User: classF *** <Analysis of 20. <g3>> User: ajile *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <tweet77>, <mckmck> Other white 20th moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 20. Qd2, Rd2, Rhf1, Nc2, Be2, Ka1, Qe3, a3, g4
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| Nov-18-08 | | zanshin: <If you have time, please analyze as many of these as possible:
20. g3, Rhf1, Nc2, Be2, Ka1. I've got a few others covered myself.> <kutz> I will do them all tonight just so we have something ... ply levels may not be as deep as we want though. <Also, I will be in training all day Wednesday. Can you post forums if he blitzes us?> Yes, I can do this. |
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Nov-20-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if white plays 20. Rhe1)
*** <Analysis of 20...<Rh6>> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 20...<Qb6>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 20...<Nf6>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 20...<Qc5>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 20...<g6>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of 20...<Kg8>> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <Karpova>, <classF>, <ajile> Other black 20th moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 20...Re8, Ne5, Qd8, Nc5
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Nov-22-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if black plays 20...Rh6)
*** <Analysis of 21. <Qd2>> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 21. <Bc2>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 21. <Bxb5>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 21. <Nc2>> User: ajile *** <Analysis of 21. <Qe3>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of 21. <g4>> User: classF *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <achieve>, <mckmck>, <Red October> Other white 21st moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 21. Re2, Rd2, Qc1, Bf1, Ka1, Be2, g3, Rg1
I continue to be mindful of the preference by some to have forums for variations rather than single moves. However, in this case once again, every move to which I have assigned a forum is a move which has been discussed by the team. It would not be right to omit any of them. That being the case, and wanting to avoid having more than six forums, it is not possible to have multiple forums for any one particular white move. |
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Nov-24-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if white plays 21. Bc2)
*** <Analysis of 21...<Ne5>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 21...<Kg8>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 21...<Nf6>> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of 21...<Qb6>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 21...<Nc5>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <tweet77>, <ajile>, <classF>, <dalbertz> Other black 21st moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 21...Qd8, Re8, Nb6, Qc5, Rd8, Qa5
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| Nov-24-08 | | sentriclecub: Another proposal alert!
<*** <Analysis of others> > I'll do all the work, I just need the permission.
I know what its like to fall in love with a pet move, and I think that it would be better to actually list the moves that get analysis in the "others" forum. I'll do the work, just need your approval.
When people put analysis into the <others forum> I'll replace the title in teh stick and write it as... <Analysis of 21...Rh8, 21...Ph4, and others> That way I can let people know in the sticky that I have moved some lines from the data-tree to the "others forum". It makes sense, it harms no one, it will make our team .0000000001% more effecient. I've been afraid to ever edit the sticky, since we have an offical "sticky updater" and I'd hate having to ask permission every time I plan to modify it, would like to ask mass-permission all at once, to include in the sticky, what moves actually have coverage in the <Analysis of others> forum. I don't know the formatting of the sticky if it can't hold the same amount of lines of text, or if I would have to put it underneath the forum. I have also put a couple Qb6 lines from RO into the data-tree that were missing, but its pretty well synced. |
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| Nov-24-08 | | sentriclecub: <The forum host will host discussion of the line and actively manage his / her forum header to reflect the line being discussed.> has this happened yet? That was my dream goal, but I worked with Zanshin and got burnt out so quickly. Updating a forum header is tough. I even wrote a message on the CG forum asking for a "side by side" or an "update and preview" option. Its tough to go to edit preferences then have TONS of other stuff when we only want to edit our forum header. |
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| Nov-24-08 | | sentriclecub: Basically, the more work I do, the more I understand the position. Chess is so infinitely complex, I could study it for a lifetime. |
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| Nov-25-08 | | achieve: <Chess is so infinitely complex, I could study it for a lifetime.> Just Rook-and-Pawn endgames could require "multiple lifetimes," let alone Chess! ;) |
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| Nov-25-08 | | sentriclecub: Yeah, I remember my amazement for the "sevedro position" (sp?) when a king and pawn can beat a king & rook, not draw, but CHECKMATE! I was ready to throw everything I had ever thought of chess endgames out the window. Plus my favorite thing ever is "speed K+B+B vs K checkmates" I do them in chessmaster all the time in like 10 seconds to 15 seconds. Those were so fun, never got tired of it. |
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Nov-25-08
| | kutztown46: <sentriclecub>
I have no objection to what you are proposing. Another way to label it would be <Analysis of others, including ...>. I will alert <dotsamoht> that you may be doing this. |
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Nov-26-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if black plays 21...Qb6)
*** <Analysis of 22. <Re2> <Nf6>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 22. <a3>> User: ajile *** <Analysis of 22. <Ka1>> User: classF *** <Analysis of 22. <Re2> <Re8>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 22. <Bb3>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 22. <Re2> <Kg8>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 22. <g4>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <mckmck>, <dalbertz> Other white 22nd moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 22. Qe3, Qd2, Qc1, Rd2, Rf1, f4, Rg1
Forums are presented in alphabetical order of forum host in order to satisfy the request for randomness. |
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| Nov-26-08 | | jepflast: I like sentricle's idea, since I was hoping for a <22. Re2 others> forum, specifically for 22. Re2 Nc5. Not sure why this move has been overlooked. |
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Nov-26-08
| | kutztown46: <jepflast>
The first consideration for forums after 21...Qb6 is that five white 22nd moves have been mentioned by the team - Re2, Bb3, a3, g4 and Ka1. All of them deserve at least one forum. Second, there is no doubt that 22. Re2 received most of the discussion. So it is appropriate to give Re2 more than one forum. When it is our move, I don't like to do that because it gives the appearance that I am favoring the move with multiple forums. However, when it is the opponent's move, I have more of a free hand to give the move receiving most of the discussion more than one forum. Third, which subvariations of 22. Re2 do I assign forums for? Keep in mind I prefer no more than six forums, seven at the most. So I can have no more than three Re2 forums. If there would have been more than three black responses to Re2 discussed, I would drop the idea of multiple forums for Re2. At the time (last night) when I typed up the forum list, there were two responses to Re2 in the AT - Kg8 and Re8. According to my notes, they were the only two black moves discussed by the team. Then less than an hour before the vote closed, there was a post on the main page about 22. Re2 Nf6. So I quickly added a forum for that variation. I checked <RV> and he mentioned the three moves I mentioned, plus Qd8 and Qc5, neither of which was on the tree or discussed by the team. 22...Nc5 was not on the tree, not at <RV>, not discussed by the team at the time of forum assignment. I might also add that as I type this, I have my Fritz 10 looking at the position after 22. Re2. At 21-ply, 22...Nc5 is not among the top ten moves. So I don't know on what basis I should have included a forum for 22. Re2 Nc5. However, now that it has been mentioned by the team, there WILL be a 22...Nc5 forum if GMAN does play 22. Re2. I hope this explanation helps. |
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| Nov-26-08 | | jepflast: <kutztown46> Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I agree completely about the <Re2 Nc5> forum, but a <Re2 others> forum may help. One wonders where to put/look for Re2 Nc5 analysis under the current scheme (and now I can add <Re2 Rb8> to the mix). The forum that is simply "others" seems to imply moves by White other than 22. Re2, hence the problem. |
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Nov-26-08
| | kutztown46: <jepflast>
The intent of the other moves forum is to cover moves or variations not covered by any other forum. Therefore, both variations you mentioned can be discussed there now. Sorry for not understanding your point. |
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Nov-27-08
 | | Open Defence: Happy Thanksgiving <kutztown46>!!! |
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Nov-27-08
| | Open Defence: <kutztown> I live at least about 900 miles away! (I live in the South in a city called Bangalore, famous for its Information Technology companies and services) my Aunt lives in Mumbai, but luckily she is here with me in Bangalore! so I have a lot to be thankful for!!
thanks for the concern, some news channels put the death toll above 200, injured more than 300, prayers for the victims and their families |
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Nov-28-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if white plays 22. Re2)
*** <Analysis of 22...<Nf6>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 22...<Rc5>> User: ajile *** <Analysis of 22...<b4>> User: classF *** <Analysis of 22...<Rb8>> User: dalbertz *** <Analysis of 22...<Re8>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 22...<Qd8>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 22...<Nc5>> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of 22...<Kg8>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 22...<Qc5>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: none
Other black 22nd moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 22...Rd8, Ne5, Ba8
I hate having nine forums, but all nine of these moves have been mentioned by the team. I think I know which two will be most popular, but among the rest I am not even going to try to choose which ones get forums and which ones do not. So they all get one. |
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Dec-01-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums (order shuffled) - posted 11/30:
(use this list if black plays 22...Nf6)
*** <Analysis of 23. <Bb3> <Qc5>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 23. <Qe3> <Qc5>> User: ajile *** <Analysis of 23. <Qe3> <Kg8>> User: classF *** <Analysis of 23. <Bb3> <Rh5>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 23. <Bb3> <Re8>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 23. <Qe3> <d5>> User: mckmck *** <Analysis of 23. <Qd2>> User: Red October *** <Analysis of 23. <Bb3> <Rc5>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <dalbertz> Other white 23rd moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 23. a3, Red2, Qc1, Rf2, Bd3, g4, Rdd2, g3
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Dec-02-08
| | kutztown46: Temporary Forums:
(use this list if white plays 23. Bb3)
*** <Analysis of 23...<Qc5>> User: achieve *** <Analysis of 23...<Rh5>> User: Dionyseus *** <Analysis of 23...<Re8>> User: Karpova *** <Analysis of 23...<Rc5>> User: tweet77 *** <Analysis of others> User: benjinathan Forum hosts in reserve: <ajile>, <classF>, <dalbertz>, <mckmck>, <Red October> Other black 23rd moves which appear to be plausible based on engine analysis: 23...Nd7, d5
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