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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg

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♔♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♕♖♖♖YouRang

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw

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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 114 OF 285 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: I looked up some more on the players following my game predictions at YouRang and OhioChessFan forum and concluded I need to slightly change my predictions.

1. Carlsen
2. Aronian
3. Karjakin
4. Radjabov
4. Topalov
6. Kamsky
6. Gashimov
8. Giri
8. Caruana
8. Navara
11. Ivanchuk
12. Gelfand
12. Nakamura
14. Van Wely

Same order as before, different numbers.

Jan-14-12  rogge: Tata predictions:

1-2 Carlsen Aronian
3-5 Karjakin Radjabov Nakamura
6-10 Topalov Gashimov Ivanchuk Giri Kamsky
11 Gelfand
12 Caruana
13 van Wely
14 Navara

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Here the average predictions

Average Ranking - 2012/01/14 14.24
2012 Tatasteel Chess Tournament

AvgRnk,Player,HighestRank,LowestRank
1.30,Carlsen,1.0,2.0
2.30,Aronian,1.0,5.0
4.98,Karjakin,1.5,11.0
5.30,Topalov,1.0,11.0
6.00,Nakamura,3.0,12.5
6.48,Radjabov,3.5,11.0
6.95,Ivanchuk,3.5,11.0
7.45,Giri,2.5,13.0
8.64,Kamsky,4.0,12.0
9.75,Gelfand,5.5,13.0
9.95,Gashimov,5.5,14.0
10.00,Caruana,5.5,13.0
12.91,Navara,9.0,14.0
13.00,Van Wely,7.0,14.0

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♗ <THE BOLDEST, OFF BEAT, UNORTHODOX PREDICTOR>

(Most deviation from the average prediction)

ABSOLUTE

♗17,SloVice
♘14,Ibelox
♘14,SwitchingQuylthulg
♘14,YouRang
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10,lostemperor
10,siamesedream
9,Penguincw
8,mark jc. Garado
8,Ragh
8,WannaBe

SQUARED

Score,UserID
♗215,SloVice
♘157,SwitchingQuylthulg
♙137,WannaBe
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135,lostemperor
129,YouRang
120,Ibelox
115,Ragh
114,Penguincw
104,mark jc. Garado
104,ooda

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: In other words <SloVice> made the boldest prediction (and an honourary ♗-Award:))!

<Jan-11-12
delete SloVice: Guessing games... fun! :)

1. Carlsen
2. Aronian
3. Giri
3. Ivanchuk
5. Nakamura
5. Caruana
7. Kamsky
7. Topalov
7. Gelfand
10. Radjabov
10. Karjakin
10. Van Wely
13. Gashimov
14. Navara>

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: On behalf of us participants: Morituri te salutant (those who are about to die salute you) :). Enjoy the tournament and the game here!
Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <<<ROUND 1 UPDATE TATASTEEL CHESS 2012>

Three decisive games, three leaders>

Stendings 1
1. Aronian, L.
Carlsen, M.
Giri, A. 1
4. Caruana, F.
Ivanchuk, V.
Kamsky, G.
Nakamura, H.
Navara, D.
Radjabov, T.
Topalov, V.
Van Wely, L. ½
12. Gashimov, V.
Gelfand, B.
Karjakin, S. 0 >

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PREDICTION STANDINGS AFTER ONE ROUND

Absolute Ranker

Score evaluation method: Absolute value of rank deviation Maximum score: 98

Score,UserID
67,SwitchingQuylthulg
66,SloVice
62,mark jc. Garado
62,Ragh
61,ooda
60,Robin01
54,Diademas
52,Dim Weasel
52,OhioChessFan
51,wordfunph
50,rogge
48,lostemperor
47,YouRang
46,Ibelox
46,moronovich
46,WannaBe
46,WinKing
45,Golden Executive
44,ELORATINGS
44,siamesedream
43,Ezzy
40,Penguincw

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Square Ranker 1

Score evaluation method: Least Squares of rank deviation Maximum score: 910

Score,UserID
787,SloVice
776,SwitchingQuylthulg
767,ooda
752,mark jc. Garado
750,Ragh
710,OhioChessFan
702,Robin01
670,Diademas
655,Dim Weasel
649,Golden Executive
646,rogge
644,wordfunph
615,lostemperor
611,siamesedream
608,Ibelox
604,moronovich
599,WinKing
589,Ezzy
586,Penguincw
582,ELORATINGS
582,YouRang
578,WannaBe

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Pair Betting Ranker 1

(Virtual contestant <CHESSBOOKIE> has yet to be included)

Earnings in $,UserID
106.26,SwitchingQuylthulg
70.88,SloVice
39.09,Ragh
14.97,ooda
13.92,mark jc. Garado
12.52,ELORATINGS
7.31,Diademas
4.55,Robin01
1.90,lostemperor
-5.05,OhioChessFan
-5.25,WannaBe
-7.67,rogge
-13.90,wordfunph
-19.02,Dim Weasel
-20.19,Penguincw
-20.27,WinKing
-22.43,Golden Executive
-23.73,Ibelox
-30.80,siamesedream
-32.92,YouRang
-33.94,Ezzy
-36.23,moronovich

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$22.00,Aronian-equal-Giri, Ragh

$22.00,Caruana-above-Karjakin, SloVice

$22.00,Caruana-equal-Ivanchuk, SwitchingQuylthulg

$22.00,Gashimov-equal-Gelfand, Diademas

$22.00,Gashimov-equal-Karjakin, ELORATINGS

$22.00,Gelfand-below-Navara, lostemperor

$22.00,Gelfand-below-Van Wely, WannaBe

$22.00,Radjabov-equal-Van Wely, SloVice

Jan-14-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Once again, not doing well. :-\
Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <Penguincw> this is just the first round and far too early to be negative.

Carlsen and Aronian make up immediately for their favourite status by winning in round 1. But since most people have them first in their expectations it makes not that much difference. So what is important is how the other Tata players do. Not just on top spots but also below. Giri did great by beating Gelfand. <SloVice> did well now by having having Giri high but also by having some, in particular Karjakin, low on his list. He is leading with the ungraspable man who deserves a caissar for his unwritable name alone <SwitchingQuylthulg>

But with 12 rounds to go it is far premature to draw conclussions :)

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: Right, intermediate standings after one round are practically meaningless, in all of the rankers but particularly in pair betting. Due to predicting so many ties I already had a huge lead in the pair betting ranker <before> round 1 ;-)
Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < 128. lostemperor 100 >

Say, how'd you get to the bottom? Betting upsets?

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <Penguincw: < 128. lostemperor 100 >> I don't undertand your question?
Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <<<ROUND 2 UPDATE>

Aronian wins again from Nakamura this time and Karjakin suffer another loss at the hands of Caruana!>

Standings after round 2

1. Aronian, L. 2
2. Carlsen, M.
Caruana, F.
Giri, A. 1½
5. Ivanchuk, V.
Kamsky, G.
Navara, D.
Radjabov, T.
Topalov, V.
Van Wely, L. 1
11. Gashimov, V.
Gelfand, B.
Nakamura, H. ½
14. Karjakin, S. 0 >

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PREDICTION STANDINGS 2

standard Ranker

Score evaluation method: Absolute value of rank deviation

Score,UserID
59,SloVice
58,Ragh
58,SwitchingQuylthulg
53,mark jc. Garado
52,ooda
49,Robin01
47,Diademas
47,lostemperor
45,OhioChessFan
42,rogge
42,siamesedream
41,Dim Weasel
40,wordfunph
39,Ibelox
38,YouRang
37,moronovich
37,WannaBe
37,WinKing
36,Golden Executive
35,ELORATINGS
34,Ezzy
34,Penguincw

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: SQUARE RANKER 2

Score evaluation method: Least Squares of rank deviation

Score,UserID
747,SloVice
728,SwitchingQuylthulg
720,Ragh
684,ooda
655,mark jc. Garado
619,Diademas
606,lostemperor
601,Robin01
586,OhioChessFan
557,siamesedream
552,Dim Weasel
543,Golden Executive
543,Ibelox
537,wordfunph
535,rogge
534,Penguincw
520,ELORATINGS
510,moronovich
510,YouRang
503,Ezzy
494,WannaBe
482,WinKing

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PAIR BETTING RANKER

Earnings,UserID
96.67,SloVice
75.52,lostemperor
29.76,ooda
22.61,Diademas
19.55,SwitchingQuylthulg
13.68,Penguincw
10.39,Ragh
4.49,WannaBe
3.01,Robin01
-0.62,mark jc. Garado
-2.48,OhioChessFan
-13.13,wordfunph
-14.17,siamesedream
-14.23,ELORATINGS
-20.57,Dim Weasel
-21.15,YouRang
-25.88,rogge
-27.11,Golden Executive
-29.48,Ibelox
-32.66,Ezzy
-36.04,WinKing
-38.17,moronovich

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$22.00,Caruana-above-Karjakin, SloVice

$22.00,Gashimov-above-Karjakin, Penguincw

$22.00,Gashimov-equal-Gelfand, Diademas

$22.00,Gashimov-equal-Nakamura, ELORATINGS

$22.00,Gelfand-below-Navara, lostemperor

$22.00,Gelfand-below-Van Wely, WannaBe

$22.00,Gelfand-equal-Nakamura, lostemperor

$22.00,Nakamura-below-Navara, lostemperor

$22.00,Radjabov-equal-Van Wely, SloVice

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: 11 Rounds more!
Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < 13.68,Penguincw >

Cool. I have some money. :)

Jan-15-12  Ezzy: <34,Ezzy>

This aint looking good :-(

But there's plenty of time for things to change :-)

Jan-15-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: < lostemperor: <Penguincw: < 128. lostemperor 100 >>

I don't undertand your question? >

Nvm.

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