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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7714 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 282 OF 285 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Jan-24-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Thanks <OhioChessFan>! Will be looking into it tomorrow.
Jan-25-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <TATA STEEL CHESS 2024
<<ROUND 10

standings:
1. Abdusattorov
1. Gukesh
1. Giri
4. Praggnanandhaa
4. Nepomniatchi
4. Firouzja
4. Vidit
8. WeiYi
8. Ding
10. Wenjun
10. Maghsoodloo
12. Warmerdam
13. Donchenko
13. VanForeest>
>
>

TATA STEEL CHESS 2024
♔♕♖THE PREDICTIONS♔♕♖

<STANDARD RANKER 10>

Score,UserID
67,EvanTheTerrible
66,fabelhaft
62,lostemperor
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55,Teyss
50,OhioChessFan
47,RATINGS
47,Golden Executive
45,Messiah
39,Penguincw

<SQUARE RANKER 10>

Score,UserID
823,fabelhaft
791,EvanTheTerrible
775,lostemperor
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711,Teyss
686,OhioChessFan
657,Golden Executive
615,RATINGS
537,Penguincw
493,Messiah

<PAIR BETTING RANKER>

Earnings,UserID
$30.22,lostemperor
$17.71,fabelhaft
$14.26,EvanTheTerrible
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$1.41,Messiah
$-0.89,Golden Executive
$-5.24,Teyss
$-13.04,OhioChessFan
$-19.44,Penguincw

Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$9.00,Abdusattorov-equal-Gukesh, Penguincw

$9.00,Giri-equal-Praggnanandhaa, Golden Executive

$9.00,Gukesh-above-Giri, lostemperor

$9.00,Gukesh-above-Praggnanandhaa, lostemperor

$9.00,Vidit-equal-WeiYi, Golden Executive

$9.00,Warmerdam-above-VanForeest, Messiah

$4.50,Gukesh-above-Firouzja, fabelhaft + lostemperor

$4.50,Gukesh-above-Nepomniatchi, lostemperor + Messiah

$4.50,Warmerdam-above-Donchenko, Messiah + OhioChessFan

$4.50,Wenjun-above-Donchenko, Messiah + Penguincw

Jan-26-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Of course the standings after 10 rounds should be

1. Abdusattorov
1. Gukesh
3. Giri
3. Praggnanandhaa
5. Nepomniatchi
5. Firouzja
5. Vidit
5. WeiYi
9. Ding
9. Wenjun
9. Maghsoodloo
9. Warmerdam
13. Donchenko
13. VanForeest

It was well processed however. Next update after the final round. With three different leaders in the 3 rankers make up for an exciting finish.

Jan-26-24  EvanTheTerrible: Outside of my underestimation of Gukesh, I'm on the edge of perfection. Selfishly, I'm starting to care more about this than the tournament itself.
Jan-27-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: You got that right <EvanTheTerrible>. About underestimating Gukesh that is :)

Predictions statistics: average predictions and deviations

Average Prediction,Player,Highest prediction,Lowest prediction

3.83,Giri,1.0,6.5
4.61,Firouzja,1.0,9.0
4.67,Nepomniatchi,1.0,14.0
4.72,Praggnanandhaa,2.0,7.0
5.06,Abdusattorov,1.0,10.0
5.33,Ding,1.0,11.0
6.94,WeiYi,4.0,10.5
7.44,Vidit,2.0,11.0
8.11,Gukesh,2.0,12.0
8.44,VanForeest,2.0,12.0
8.83,Maghsoodloo,7.0,10.0
11.61,Warmerdam,1.0,14.0
12.28,Donchenko,11.0,13.0
13.11,Wenjun,8.0,14.0

Deviations per player:
Deviation,Player'

60,Gukesh
48,Ding
46,VanForeest
35,Nepomniatchi
34,Abdusattorov
29,Warmerdam
29,Wenjun
24,Firouzja
24,Vidit
22,WeiYi
15,Giri
15,Maghsoodloo
15,Praggnanandhaa
11,Donchenko

Best prediction on biggest upset GUKESH ranked 1-2 after 10 rounds: <lostemperor> (Gukesh rank 2) There are a lot of very strong young talents Firouzja, Abdusattorov, Praggnanandhaa and Gukesh is the youngest of them. And how would he fair against the world elite, Ding, Nepomniatchi, Giri? But I had total confidence :)

Jan-27-24  EvanTheTerrible: Good luck to everyone for the final round!
Jan-28-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <TATA STEEL CHESS 2024 <FINAL ROUND>>

Wei Yi won the 4-way tie breaker!

<standings:
1. Wei Yi
1. Gukesh
1. Abdusattorov
1. Giri
5. Firouzja
5. Vidit
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Nepomniatchi
9. Ding
10. Wenjun
10. Maghsoodloo
10. VanForeest
10. Donchenko
14. Warmerdam>
>>

TATA STEEL CHESS 2024
♔♕♖THE PREDICTIONS♔♕♖

<STANDARD RANKER< Score evaluation method: Absolute value of rank deviation Maximum score: 98>>

Score,UserID
♔71,EvanTheTerrible
♔71,fabelhaft
♖62,lostemperor
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57,Teyss
50,RATINGS
49,Golden Executive
48,Penguincw
46,OhioChessFan
43,Messiah

<SQUARE RANKER
<Score evaluation method: Least Squares of rank deviation Maximum score: 910>>

Score,UserID
836,fabelhaft♔
820,EvanTheTerrible♕
764,lostemperor♖
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728,Teyss
663,Golden Executive
663,OhioChessFan
641,RATINGS
624,Penguincw
485,Messiah

<PAIR BETTING RANKER FINAL>

Earnings,UserID
$32.91,EvanTheTerrible ♔
$32.70,fabelhaft♕
$28.35,lostemperor♖
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$4.11,Penguincw
$3.45,Teyss
$-0.43,Messiah
$-10.50,Golden Executive
$-12.60,OhioChessFan

Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
JACKPOT!!
$9.00,Abdusattorov-equal-Gukesh, Penguincw

jACKPOT!!
$9.00,Giri-equal-Gukesh, Golden Executive

JACKPOT!!
$9.00,Gukesh-above-Praggnanandhaa, lostemperor

JACKPOT!!
$9.00,Wenjun-above-Warmerdam, Penguincw

Semi-Jackpot!
$4.50,Gukesh-above-Firouzja, fabelhaft + lostemperor

Semi-Jackpot!
$4.50,Gukesh-above-Nepomniatchi, lostemperor + Messiah

Semi-Jackpot!
$4.50,Vidit-above-Nepomniatchi, EvanTheTerrible + Messiah

Jan-28-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: After fabulous touranament and a tense finish <EvanTheTerrible> and <fabelhaft> won the standard ranker!!

The square tie-breaker goes to fabelhaft but the prestigeous Pair Betting ranker fell prey to EvanTheTerrible. Congratulations!!

Bronze goes to lostemperor!

Jan-28-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  OhioChessFan: Thanks <le>
Jan-28-24  EvanTheTerrible: I'll take it! Thank you <lostemperor>.
Jan-29-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  Penguincw: Guess I'm going upside-down next time. :p

Thanks <lostemperor> for hosting this. See you next time, which hopefully isn't long from now.

Jan-29-24  Golden Executive: Thanks <le> and congratulations to all of the medal winners.

See you guys next time!

Jan-29-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  Teyss: Hi lostemperor,
Thanks for hosting this. Congrats to <EvanTheTerrible> and <fabelhaft> for winning the contest. Since each win a tiebreaker we can say it's a joint victory.
Jan-29-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Thanks all!
Next tournament the Candidates' tournament April 5!

1.Nepomniachtchi
2.Caruana
3. Nakamura
4. Firouzja
5. Praggnanandhaa
6. Gukesh
7. Vidit
8. Abasov

Feb-12-24  EvanTheTerrible: 1. Firouzja
2. Caruana
3. Vidit
4. Nepomniachtchi
5. Praggnanandhaa
6. Gukesh
7. Abasov
8. Nakamura
Feb-13-24  Messiah: The Candidates tournament will be canceled, so there will be no final standings. This is my bet.
Feb-13-24  EvanTheTerrible: For bonus points, why is it canceled?
Feb-13-24  Messiah: <EvanTheTerrible: For bonus points, why is it canceled?>

No idea, just guessing.

Mar-17-24  EvanTheTerrible: Seems unlikely, Messiah. Care to update your prediction so it's not just lostemperor and myself?
Mar-18-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: If we change our minds then can we change our minds?
Mar-18-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: Here is my early prediction.

1.= Firouzja
1.= Caruana
3. Abasov
4.= Praggnanandhaa
4.= Vidit
6. Nepomniachtchi
7. Nakamura
8. Gukesh

This is going to be a great GREAT tournament!!

Mar-18-24
Premium Chessgames Member
  offramp: D'you remember the chess magazines talking about a plague of short draws? In the 1960s to the 1990s.

In this tournament there will be a fiesta of <VERY LONG GAMES>!

Mar-18-24  Messiah: <EvanTheTerrible: Seems unlikely, Messiah. Care to update your prediction so it's not just lostemperor and myself?>

Yes, of course, and thank you for the reminder. My prediction is rather wild, depleting the meaning of wishful thinking:

1. Gukesh
2. Abasov
3. Nakamura
4. Assblasteza
5. Praggnanandhaa
6. Bill
7. Caruana
8. Vidit

I have to note that I actually like Vidit (in fact, I like all of the players above), so him finishing in the last place is not a 'wish' of mine at all.

Mar-23-24  EvanTheTerrible: Anyone else feel like throwing their hat in the ring? There are only 4 of us currently.
Mar-23-24  EvanTheTerrible: <Messiah>, that's a crazy prediction, with Abasov finishing 2nd and Caruana 7th. I thought I was taking a risk putting Nakamura 8th, but you have outdone me.
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