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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25

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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>
Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12
Format example to post your predictions
1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca
Good Luck!
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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:
For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).
In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).
The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.
Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.
The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!
Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.
Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.
Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!
or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>
Enjoy!
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<HALL <OF> FAME>
WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖
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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg
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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw
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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus
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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa
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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM
*may be incomplete
♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze
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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames [more...]

   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum

lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!

   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum

lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.

   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum

lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn

   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024)

lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov

   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023)

lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖

   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023)

lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖

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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

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Feb-20-08		lostemperor: Exciting day at Morelia yesterday. Shirov beat Topalov and Aronian Ivanchuk. 1.Topalov, Aronian, Anand 4.Shirov. Leko 6.Radjabov, Ivanchuk, Carlsen PREDICTION GAME STANDINGS <SwitchingQuylthulg> has seized the lead. Maximum score: 68 Rank,Score,UserID 1,61,SwitchingQuylthulg 2t,58,Comandente 2t,58,ELO VIRTUAL 4t,57,acirce 4t,57,ELO 6t,55,amadeus 6t,55,stefan1967 8t,53,bumpmobile 8t,53,cromat 8t,53,Ezzy 8t,53,kolobok 8t,53,lostemperor 8t,53,rgr459 8t,53,yalie 15t,51,CHESSBOOKIE 15t,51,DrawingIsLife 15t,51,firebyrd 15t,51,iron maiden 15t,51,NakoSonorense 15t,51,Red October 15t,51,WannaBe 15t,51,whiteshark 23,50,EXPERIENCE 24t,49,ASKALTAMAN 24t,49,Aurora 24t,49,DCP23 24t,49,rogge 24t,49,YouRang 29t,47,Dim Weasel 29t,47,Open Defence 29t,47,percyblakeney 32t,45,ahmadov 32t,45,just a kid 32t,45,TheGladiatres 32t,45,Youjoin 36t,44,suenteus po 147 36t,44,YOUTH 38,43,chessmoron

Feb-20-08		lostemperor: YOUTH, in the form of Aronian, struck back in the last minute time scramble (while EXPERIENCED Shirov took his time)!

Feb-20-08		YouRang: <lostemperor> Interesting idea adding YOUTH and EXPERIENCE. I presume that's just ranking them by age? :-) I'm not sure I understand the difference between ELO and ELO VIRTUAL though..

Feb-20-08		lostemperor: <YouRang> I think the battle between <EXPERIENCE> and <YOUTH> has never been so close. After CORUS, where YOUTH clearly won, contrary to the World Championship tournament, it was clear that we have a real battle. So that's why after a discussion between ahmadov and ASKALTAMAN I got the idea of putting these pseudo-contestant, the English word I believe, as you used to call them, in the PREDICTION GAME. You can read back the order. Indeed I have chosen age order. I look also at amount of games in the database but that is almost the same order. <ELO> is the rating in the January rating list. But after CORUS ratings have changed but has not been updated. frogbert has calculated the new February ratings and I have put them under <ELO VIRTUAL>, with the help of SwitchingQuylthulg into the CONMAN program. You can read back the exact ratings order also. Hope this helps:)

Feb-21-08		lostemperor: Major changes in Morelia Round 5: Carlsen beat Topalov and Anand Leko! 1.Anand 2.Aronian 3.Shirov, Topalov, Carlsen 6.Radjabov, Leko, Ivanchuk Maximum score: 68 In the lead now <acirce>, <cromat>, and <Ezzy> Rank,Score,UserID 1,61,ELO VIRTUAL 2t,60,acirce 2t,60,cromat 2t,60,Ezzy 5t,58,amadeus 5t,58,CHESSBOOKIE 5t,58,DCP23 5t,58,DrawingIsLife 5t,58,kolobok 5t,58,yalie 11t,56,bumpmobile 11t,56,Red October 11t,56,rogge 11t,56,SwitchingQuylthulg 11t,56,WannaBe 11t,56,YouRang 17t,54,ELO 17t,54,firebyrd 17t,54,iron maiden 17t,54,percyblakeney 17t,54,stefan1967 22,53,suenteus po 147 23t,52,ahmadov 23t,52,just a kid 23t,52,NakoSonorense 26t,51,Comandente 26t,51,EXPERIENCE 28t,50,chessmoron 28t,50,Dim Weasel 28t,50,lostemperor 28t,50,Open Defence 28t,50,rgr459 28t,50,TheGladiatres 28t,50,Youjoin 35t,48,ASKALTAMAN 35t,48,Aurora 35t,48,whiteshark 38,47,YOUTH

Feb-21-08		lostemperor: For the surprise player's ranking here the predictions deviations per player: Deviation,Player 128,Shirov 82,Aronian 80,Radjabov 62,Topalov 57,Carlsen 54,Ivanchuk 40,Leko 34,Anand

Feb-22-08		lostemperor: Although at the bottom place, <YOUTH> gave <EXPERIENCE> a sensitive blow in round 5 when Carlsen beat Topalov with black. The Alekhine Defence still rules! (or is it "Alekhine Defense" as written mostly in sites and magazines, just to show you how difficult English is) Like I said in an earlier post: <"Especially after the Corus results this Linares will be heavily contested I think. Give or take a few short draws also Leko will be highly motivated">. At least I was right about this. Different than the times when just scoring +2 and drawing the rest was enough to win Linares when Kasparov was still around. Those lazy days are over :)

Feb-23-08		lostemperor: ROUND 6 MORELIA: Radjabov beat Carlsen (at least I was right about this though it didn't help me much. Au contraire!:)) Standings after 6 rounds: 1.Anand 2.Aronian 3.Topalov Radjabov Shirov 6.Leko Carlsen Ivanchuk <PREDICTION GAME STANDINGS> Maximum score: 68 <firebyrd> has taken the lead (2gether with <CHESSBOOKIE> the chessgames.com betting odds order Morelia-Linares: WINNER)! Rank,Score,UserID 1t,58,CHESSBOOKIE 1t,58,firebyrd 3t,56,acirce 3t,56,Ezzy 3t,56,kolobok 3t,56,NakoSonorense 3t,56,rgr459 3t,56,stefan1967 3t,56,SwitchingQuylthulg 3t,56,YouRang 11t,55,Comandente 11t,55,ELO VIRTUAL 13t,54,amadeus 13t,54,cromat 13t,54,DCP23 13t,54,ELO 13t,54,percyblakeney 13t,54,Red October 13t,54,rogge 13t,54,WannaBe 21,53,suenteus po 147 22t,52,ahmadov 22t,52,DrawingIsLife 22t,52,just a kid 22t,52,Open Defence 22t,52,yalie 22t,52,Youjoin 28,51,EXPERIENCE 29t,50,bumpmobile 29t,50,chessmoron 29t,50,Dim Weasel 29t,50,iron maiden 29t,50,whiteshark 34,48,Aurora 35,47,YOUTH 36t,46,ASKALTAMAN 36t,46,lostemperor 38,44,TheGladiatres

Feb-23-08		lostemperor: Compare this with the prediction standings after two rounds. The table has practically been turned upside down!

Feb-23-08		Open Defence: geez! that commie Red October is beating me ;-p

Feb-23-08		lostemperor: <Red October> has seized to exist!

Feb-23-08		Open Defence: < lostemperor: <Red October> has seized to exist!> indeed she is a Caesar

Feb-24-08		lostemperor: MORELIA-LINARES Round 7. The hits just keep on coming. Carlsen beat Aronian, Shirov beat Radjabov and Topalov Leko! Halfway standings: 1.Anand 4.5 2.shirov, Topalov 4 4.Aronian, Carlsen 3.5 6.Radjabov, Ivanchuk 3 8.Leko 2.5 <PREDICTION GAME> standings halfway (Absolute Ranker): <amadeus> in the lead. Maximum score: 68 Rank,Score,UserID 1,59,amadeus 2,58,ELO VIRTUAL 3t,57,cromat 3t,57,yalie 3t,57,YouRang 6t,55,acirce 6t,55,DCP23 6t,55,DrawingIsLife 6t,55,ELO 6t,55,SwitchingQuylthulg 6t,55,WannaBe 12t,53,bumpmobile 12t,53,CHESSBOOKIE 12t,53,Ezzy 12t,53,iron maiden 12t,53,just a kid 12t,53,stefan1967 18t,51,ahmadov 18t,51,Dim Weasel 18t,51,firebyrd 18t,51,kolobok 18t,51,lostemperor 18t,51,Open Defence 18t,51,percyblakeney 18t,51,rogge 26,50,EXPERIENCE 27t,49,Aurora 27t,49,Red October 27t,49,Youjoin 30t,48,Comandente 30t,48,suenteus po 147 32t,47,ASKALTAMAN 32t,47,NakoSonorense 32t,47,TheGladiatres 32t,47,whiteshark 36t,45,chessmoron 36t,45,rgr459 38,42,YOUTH

Feb-24-08		lostemperor: For the SURPRISE PLAYER ranking here the predictions' deviations per player Deviation,Player 164,Shirov 96,Leko 80,Radjabov 76,Topalov 63,Carlsen 60,Aronian 54,Ivanchuk 34,Anand

Feb-24-08		lostemperor: Here the SQUARE RANKER: where the deviation of your prediction is squared and deducted from an arbitrary maximum. Eg. two small deviations of a total 4 will favour one big deviation of 4 (squared = 16). Maximum score: 140 Rank,Score,UserID 1,113,yalie 2t,111,SwitchingQuylthulg 2t,111,YouRang 4,110,ELO VIRTUAL 5,105,cromat 6,101,amadeus 7t,97,ELO 7t,97,iron maiden 9t,93,bumpmobile 9t,93,DCP23 9t,93,WannaBe 12t,91,just a kid 12t,91,stefan1967 14t,89,acirce 14t,89,DrawingIsLife 14t,89,Ezzy 17t,85,CHESSBOOKIE 17t,85,firebyrd 19t,81,kolobok 19t,81,percyblakeney 19t,81,rogge 22,80,EXPERIENCE 23,76,suenteus po 147 24t,75,Dim Weasel 24t,75,Red October 26,73,Aurora 27,72,Comandente 28,71,ahmadov 29t,69,lostemperor 29t,69,Open Defence 31t,63,ASKALTAMAN 31t,63,NakoSonorense 33,61,whiteshark 34,59,Youjoin 35,55,chessmoron 36,51,TheGladiatres 37,45,rgr459 38,36,YOUTH

Feb-24-08		lostemperor: Despite last place, due to the excellent form of Anand, Shirov and Topalov, "YOUTH" is holding it's own! (Though it did better in Corus)

Feb-25-08		lostemperor: That even Leko is highly motivated showed. Leko usually doesn't lose with black let alone with white. Not even to Kasparov. Now he lost twice with white! He is willing to take more chanches now. This is the way chess is supposed to be played. Play to win at all cost with white. Even if it means losing. Unfortunately it didn't work out for him here.

Feb-25-08		positionalgenius: <lostemperor> Very true...

Feb-26-08		lostemperor: <positionalgenius> this was the essence of my anti-draw scoring proposal I gave after the Kramnik- Leko match:)

Feb-29-08		kolobok: Leko lacks creativity to win games,thats his main problem he cant take advantages of good openings.

Feb-29-08		lostemperor: ROUND 8 Linares: <YOUTH> struck back (with a vengeance) and has overtaken <EXPERIENCE> for the first time this tournament. Carlsen beat Ivanchuk. Aronian beat Topalov. Anand beat Sirov. Standings after 8 rounds: 1.Anand 5.5 2.Aronian, Carlsen 4.5 4.Topalov Shirov 4 6.Radjabov 3.5 7.Leko Ivanchuk 3 PREDICTION GAME standings: <cromat> and <Ezzy> are leading Maximum score: 68 Rank,Score,UserID 1t,61,cromat 1t,61,Ezzy 3t,59,acirce 3t,59,DCP23 3t,59,rogge 6,58,ELO VIRTUAL 7t,57,amadeus 7t,57,bumpmobile 7t,57,CHESSBOOKIE 7t,57,DrawingIsLife 7t,57,kolobok 7t,57,percyblakeney 7t,57,Red October 7t,57,YouRang 15t,55,firebyrd 15t,55,iron maiden 15t,55,just a kid 15t,55,SwitchingQuylthulg 15t,55,WannaBe 15t,55,yalie 21,54,suenteus po 147 22t,53,ahmadov 22t,53,chessmoron 22t,53,stefan1967 25t,51,NakoSonorense 25t,51,TheGladiatres 25t,51,Youjoin 28,50,YOUTH 29t,49,Dim Weasel 29t,49,ELO 29t,49,Open Defence 29t,49,rgr459 33t,48,Comandente 33t,48,EXPERIENCE 35,47,lostemperor 36t,45,ASKALTAMAN 36t,45,Aurora 36t,45,whiteshark

Feb-29-08		whiteshark: I'm at the bottom of the table ? I only used the latest FIDE ranking for the prediction. Well, all right, six rounds to go! :D

Feb-29-08		lostemperor: <whiteshark> let's hope for both our sakes, Ivanchuk will get a hold on himself and do better for once hehehe!

Feb-29-08		lostemperor: <whiteshark> I see you used the latest pre-January FIDE ratings which determined which players were invited. As were the players' rankings in the official site two weeks ago. The INVITATIONAL list sort to speak. Indeed interesting to see that those recent ELO rating rankings are now last after 8 rounds ;)

Mar-01-08		lostemperor: <ROUND 9> Linares Carlsen wins again vs Shirov and Ivanchuk beat Leko. Standings linares: 1.Anand 2.Carlsen 3.Aronian 4.Topalov 5.Radjabov, Shirov, Ivanchuk 8.Leko <PREDICTION GAME STANDINGS> Maximum score: 68 <cromat> still in pole position Rank,Score,UserID 1,63,cromat 2t,59,amadeus 2t,59,CHESSBOOKIE 2t,59,Ezzy 2t,59,rogge 2t,59,YouRang 7t,57,DCP23 7t,57,just a kid 7t,57,kolobok 7t,57,percyblakeney 11t55,acirce 11t,55,ahmadov 11t,55,bumpmobile 11t,55,DrawingIsLife 11t,55,iron maiden 11t,55,Red October 11t,55,WannaBe 11t,55,yalie 11t,55,Youjoin 20,44,ELO VIRTUAL 21t,43,chessmoron 21t,43,firebyrd 21t,43,stefan1967 21t,43,TheGladiatres 25,42,suenteus po 147 26t,41,Dim Weasel 26t,41,rgr459 26t,41,SwitchingQuylthulg 29t,40,Comandente 29t,40,YOUTH 31t,39,ELO 31t,39,lostemperor 31t,39,NakoSonorense 31t,39,Open Defence 31t,39,whiteshark 36,38,EXPERIENCE 37,37,ASKALTAMAN 38,35,Aurora

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