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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg

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♔♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♕♖♖♖YouRang

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw

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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

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Jan-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: SQUARE RANKER

Squared deviation deducted:
Maximum score: 819

Score,UserID
556,SwitchingQuylthulg
544,suenteus po 147
478,Chnebelgrind
472,lostemperor
472,Ragh
464,yalie
450,armenoid
436,OhioChessFan
434,CHESSBOOKIE
434,rogge
426,Appaz
418,iron maiden
405,cu8sfan
404,capybara
398,chancho
392,percyblakeney
383,imag
380,nimh
379,amadeus
378,TheGladiatres
378,YouRang
367,ELO
362,DCP23
330,Aurora
328,NakoSonorense
322,kellmano
320,chessmoron
310,positionalgenius
308,Robin01

Jan-31-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: As you can see with the differences getting small now, the quest for Gold, Silver and Bronze will only be decided tomorrow since all medals are still for grabs..
Feb-01-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: CORUS FINAL UPDATE:

Karjakin, Morozevich and Wang beat Dominguez, Ivanchuk and Carlsen respectively!

It was a pretty bizarre tournament!

CORUS STANDINGS:

1. Karjakin 8
2. Aronian
2. Radjabov
2. Movsesian 7½
5. M. Carlsen
5. Dominguez 7
7. G. Kamsky 6½
8. L. van Wely
8. Smeets
8. Wang 6
11. D. Stellwagen
11. Ivanchuk
11. Adams
11. Morozevich 5½

Feb-01-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ~~~
<PREDICTION GAME STANDINGS CORUS 2009>

Winner is <SwitchingQuylthulg>!!

<Ragh> and <suenteus po 147> shared 2nd place!

Score evaluation method: ABSOLUTE
Maximum score: 101

Score,UserID
♔48,SwitchingQuylthulg
♕46,Ragh
♕46,suenteus po 147
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54,Chnebelgrind
50,armenoid
50,lostemperor
48,Appaz
48,CHESSBOOKIE
48,NakoSonorense
48,rogge
48,yalie
46,chancho
46,chessmoron
46,OhioChessFan
46,YouRang
45,cu8sfan
44,DCP23
44,iron maiden
44,nimh
43,amadeus
42,Aurora
42,capybara
42,percyblakeney
42,TheGladiatres
41,ELO
41,imag
40,kellmano
40,positionalgenius
38,Robin01

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze

Feb-01-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <SQUARE RANKER>

<suenteus po 147> takes the Gold here!!

<SwithcingQuylthulg> is 2nd and <Ragh> 3rd!

score evaluation method: Least Squares of rank deviation Maximum score: 819

Rank,Score,UserID
♔646,suenteus po 147
♕606,SwitchingQuylthulg
♖582,Ragh
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568,Chnebelgrind
558,yalie
552,lostemperor
544,armenoid
544,OhioChessFan
513,cu8sfan
510,iron maiden
504,chancho
502,capybara
500,percyblakeney
498,Appaz
492,CHESSBOOKIE
490,nimh
490,rogge
486,chessmoron
485,imag
482,DCP23
478,YouRang
472,NakoSonorense
471,amadeus
462,Aurora
458,TheGladiatres
439,ELO
438,positionalgenius
430,Robin01
410,kellmano

Feb-01-09  Ragh: <lostemperor> - <PREDICTION GAME STANDINGS CORUS 2009>

<Winner is <SwitchingQuylthulg>!!

<Ragh> and <suenteus po 147> shared 2nd place!Score,UserID

♔48,SwitchingQuylthulg
♕46,Ragh
♕46,suenteus po 147
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54,Chnebelgrind
50,armenoid >

Perhaps, you meant 58,56,56 in the scores?!

A second prize and a third prize, not bad. I will be off to a real bookie once I receive my prize money check :)

Well, thanks for organizing the contest.

Feb-01-09  YouRang: Thanks <lostemperor>. I see that my prediction performance in your contest, although mediocre, was at least better than my I did in my own contest. :-\

Okay, let's see what I did wrong...

<Prediction - actual>

1.Carlsen - 5. not terrible
2.Morzevich - 11. could've been worse, ...barely
3.Aronian - 2! you can't lose 'em all
4.Kamsky - not bad
5.Dominguez - 5! good
6.Radjabov - 2. ok, not great
7.Yue - 8. ok
8.Ivanchuk - 11. can't believe I OVERestimated chuk
9.Karjakin - 1. sorry, karjak
10.ADAMS - 11. ok
11.Movessian - 2. screw up
12.Stellwagen - 11. ok
13.Smeets - 8. phfft
14.Van Wely - 8. is anyone still reading this? why??

Feb-01-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Yes indeed <Ragh>! I forgot to give the 10 point bonus to the software there. Even though the Corus standings were surprising, everyone has a plus score even without bonus, where that was different sometimes in the past! :)
Feb-01-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <YouRang> strangely you almost always do better here! I on the other hand used to do better in your contest. Now I finished last in your Betting Ranker where I used to finish fourth more than once there! Bizarre:)
Feb-01-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Here the Surprise players of Corus:

<Movsesian> became the most surprising player, with <Karjakin> second and <Ivanchuk> and <Morozevich> third.

Deviations per player:
Deviation,Player
214,Movsesian
200,Karjakin
187,Ivanchuk
187,Morozevich
158,Smeets
116,Dominguez
95,Carlsen
92,Van Wely
80,Adams
69,Wang Yue
61,Stelwagen
59,Kamsky
47,Radjabov
28,Aronian

Predictions on Ivanchuk deviated more than Morozevich if squared.

Feb-01-09  suenteus po 147: A silver and a gold? Awesome! I'm not sure how the square ranker works, but I'll take it anyway :)
Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Here the correction of the points in the absolute ranker (as pointed out):

Score,UserID
♔58,SwitchingQuylthulg
♕56,Ragh
♕56,suenteus po 147
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54,Chnebelgrind
50,armenoid
50,lostemperor
48,Appaz
48,CHESSBOOKIE
48,NakoSonorense
48,rogge
48,yalie
46,chancho
46,chessmoron
46,OhioChessFan
46,YouRang
45,cu8sfan
44,DCP23
44,iron maiden
44,nimh
43,amadeus
42,Aurora
42,capybara
42,percyblakeney
42,TheGladiatres
41,ELO
41,imag
40,kellmano
40,positionalgenius
38,Robin01

Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <suenteus po> in the <SQUARE RANKER> the deviations of your predictions with the actual standings is squared.

Take Karjakin for instance. You put him at 5 (what is excellent since his rating was 11th!). Karjakin became first, so the difference/deviation with your prediction is 4. In the <ABSOLUTE RAKER> 4 points is deducted form the arbitrary maximum of 101 here.

In the square ranker, your deviation of 4 is squared to 16 and deducted from the maximum points (819). If you had put Karjakin at 6 that would have deducted 25 points (square 5)!

It short the square ranker, squared magnify your deviations. So yes I would definitely take the prize if I were you:)

Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Predictions statistics:

AveragePrediction,Player,HighestPrediction,Lowes-
tPrediction
1.79,Carlsen,1,6
2.34,Aronian,1,9
3.21,Radjabov,1,6
4.55,Ivanchuk,1,10
4.55,Morozevich,1,9
5.62,Wang Yue,2,8
7.72,Kamsky,1,12
7.90,Karjakin,3,11
8.31,Adams,5,12
8.86,Dominguez,4,14
9.38,Movsesian,5,12
11.17,Van Wely,8,14
12.97,Stelwagen,9,14
13.45,Smeets,12,14

Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <suenteus po 147> showed a remarkable come back after Biel last year to be the first person to reach three crowns after <WannaBe>! <SwitchingQuylThulg> probably surprised himself!:)
Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Next prediction tournament: LINARES 2009

Participants:
1. Anand
2. Carlsen
3. Ivanchuk
4. Aronian
5. Radjabov
6. Wang Yue
7. Grischuk
8. Dominguez

Feb-02-09  NakoSonorense: <prediction - actual>

-Morozevich <1 - 11> Thought this was Moro's tourney! Gotta stop reading slomarko :)

-Aronian <2 - 2> Not bad...

-Ivanchuk <3 - 11> This guy is unpredicable, literally

-Radjabov <4 - 2> Not bad either: 2^2=4

-Karjakin <5 - 1> Did better than Carlsen, which is what I based my prediction on

-Carlsen <6 - 5> Eh, close enough

-Wang Yue <7 - 8> Close enough too

-Kamsky <8 - 7> Maybe I should've swapped Yue and Kamsky...

-Dominguez <9 - 5> Did much better than everybody thought

-Adams <10 - 11> Typical Adams...

-van Wely <11 - 8> A little better than he usually does

-Movsesian <12 - 2> I didn't even know this guy!

-Smeets <13 - 8> Did ok...

-Stellwagen <14 - 11> Last place, just like I predicted!

Thanks for running the contest, <lostemperor>. I seem to be cursed here... I never win! :(

Feb-02-09  Ragh: LINARES 2009 Prediction:

1. Anand
2. Carlsen
3. Radjabov
4. Aronian
5. Dominguez
6. Wang Yue
7. Ivanchuk
8. Grischuk

Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  chancho: Linares 2009:

1.Aronian
2.Anand
3.Radjabov
4.Carlsen
5.Grischuk
6.Ivanchuk
7.Dominguez
8.Wang Yue

Feb-02-09  rogge: Let's try again.

Linares:

1. Anand
2. Carlsen
3. Aronian
4. Radjabov
5. Dominguez
6. Wang Yue
7. Ivanchuk
8. Grischuk

But you never know when <Ivanchuk Elevator> is going up again...

Feb-02-09  Ragh: < rogge> Did you just effortlessly copied over my prediction except for making a small switch on positions 3 and 4. Good luck you assured yourself of at least the Silver medal. :)
Feb-02-09  rogge: <Ragh>

You must be a wise man :)

Feb-02-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: Linares predictions:

1. Anand
2. Radjabov
3. Aronian
4. Carlsen
5. Dominguez
6. Wang Yue
6. Ivanchuk
6. Grischuk

Feb-02-09  percyblakeney: Linares:

1. Radjabov
2. Anand
3. Carlsen
4. Aronian
5. Ivanchuk
6. Dominguez
7. Wang Yue
8. Grischuk

Feb-02-09  rogge: Lost your faith in Aronian, <percy>?
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