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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg

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♔♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♕♖♖♖YouRang

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw

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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 71 OF 285 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Feb-02-09  percyblakeney: <rogge> A bit, after those last rounds in Corus :-) Radjabov tends to perform best against strong opponents (-1 against the Dutch 2600 players in Corus, but +3 against the 2700+ opponents), so I picked him as surprise winner this time.
Feb-02-09  rogge: Well, good luck :)
Feb-03-09  just a kid: 1.Aronian
2.Anand
3.Ivanchuk
4.Carlsen
5.Dominguez
6.Radjabov
7.Grischuk
8.Wang Yue
Feb-03-09  chessmoron: 1.Anand
2.Aronian
3.Carlsen
4.Ivanchuk
5.Wang Yue
6.Radjabov
7.Grischuk
8.Dominguez
Feb-04-09  suenteus po 147: My prediction for the final standings:

1. Radjabov
1. Anand
3. Carlsen
3. Aronian
5. Grischuk
6. Dominguez
6. Wang Yue
8. Ivanchuk

Feb-04-09  YouRang: The shocking final standings will be:

1. Aronian
2. Anand
3. Grischuk
4. Carlsen
5. Dominguez
6. Radjabov
7. Ivanchuk
8. Yue

:-o

Feb-04-09  iron maiden: 1. Carlsen
2. Anand
3. Aronian
4. Radjabov
5. Dominguez
6. Grischuk
7. Wang Yue
8. Ivanchuk
Feb-04-09  percyblakeney: Anand and Ivanchuk both have the chance to win a fourth, unshared Linares title this year. They are the only players except Kasparov to have been sole winners of Linares more than once (on points, without tiebreak). A fourth Linares title wouldn't exactly look bad on the CV.
Feb-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Wrapping up Corus: ♗♘♙-Awards

♗-Best/Correct prediction on 1st surprise player
♘ Best/Correct prediction on 2nd surprise player
♙ Best/Correct prediction on 3rd surprise player

Biggest upset <MOVSESIAN>. tournament standing 2-4, performed even better than his <ELO> ranking 5!

Best predictor on biggest surpise MOVSESIAN:

<OhioChessFan> 5-7 (average 6). He has the same as <CHESSBOOKIE> 6

<iron maiden> 7
<TheGladiatres> 7

virtual contestants ELO and CHESSBOOKIE will get an honourary ♗-award also.

Feb-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♘ Best/Correct prediction on 2nd surprise player <KARJAKIN> tournament standing 1!

<Ragh>3(!)
<Chnebelgrind>
<NakoSonorense>
<suenteus po 147> 5

Feb-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♙ Best/Correct prediction on 3rd surprise player <IVANCHUK> tournament standing 11-14

IVANCHUK was an even bigger negative upset than Morozevich, who will be counted also, on square tie-breaker.

<DCP23> 9-11 (average 10)

<suenteus po 147> 10

Feb-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♙ Best/Correct prediction on 3rd surprise player <MOROZEVICH> tournament standing 11-14

<suenteus po 147> 9

Feb-05-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Upsets' statics:

<KARJAKIN>: rated 11, standing 1, Bookie game betting odds 59:1!

<MOVSESIAN> rated 5, standing 2-4, odds 15:1

<MOROZEVICH> rated 3, standing 11-14, odds 7:1

<IVANCHUK> rated 1, standing 11-14, odds, 4:1

Feb-06-09  Where is my mind: Linares prediction:
1.Anand
2.Carlsen
3.Aronian
4.Ivanchuk
5.Radjabov
6.Wang Yue
7.Grischuk
8.Dominguez
Feb-07-09  YuanTi: Prediction:

1. Anand
2. Carlsen
2. Radjabov
4. Aronian
5. Grischuk
5. Ivanchuk
7. Dominguez
8. Wang Yue

Feb-08-09  MrMelad: Prediction

1. Anand
2. Carlsen
2. Radjabov
4. Aronian
4. Dominguez
4. Ivanchuk
7. Wang Yue
8. Grischuk

Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Is it me but the less players, the more difficult it seems to predict!!

Predictions:
1. Anand
2. Aronian
3. Carlsen
4. Radjabov
5. Ivanchuk
6. Grischuk
6. Dominguez
6. Wang Yue

Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Does someone know the updated ratings of the Linares players after Corus?
Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: <frogbert>'s live ratings:

Anand 2791
Carlsen 2764
Radjabov 2763
Aronian 2758
Ivanchuk 2741
Wang Yue 2739
Grischuk 2733
Dominguez 2722

Results indicated by the most simple calculation method (FIDE probability table):

1. Anand 7.90/14
2. Carlsen 7.26/14
2. Radjabov 7.26/14
4. Aronian 7.12/14
4. Ivanchuk 6.78/14
6. Wang Yue 6.74/14
6. Grischuk 6.62/14
6. Dominguez 6.32/14

(Of course, one could look at the differences a bit, instead of merely rounding to the nearest half point.)

Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Thanks <Switch>! So here the rating prediction expectations according to <ELO> (updated):

1. Anand 2791
2. Carlsen 2764
2. Radjabov 2763
4. Aronian 2758
5. Ivanchuk 2741
5. Wang Yue 2739
7. Grischuk 2733
8. Dominguez 2722

If I'm correct here?!

Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Predictions statistics (so far): <Biggest predictions deviations to the rating expectations>!

If the Linares 2009 outcome will be exactly like the rating expectations accordingto ELO this will be the results:

Maximum score: 38 (28 CONMAN + 10 bonus)

Score,UserID
38,ELO
32,Where is my mind
32,YuanTi
30,chessmoron
30,MrMelad
30,percyblakeney
30,Ragh
29,lostemperor
29,SwitchingQuylthulg
28,rogge
27,suenteus po 147
24,chancho
24,iron maiden
20,just a kid
16,YouRang

Meaning <YouRang> tops the list as far as unorthodox predictions is concerned! Second is <just a kid> followed by <iron maiden> and <chancho>:)

Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Oh wait I made a mistake! I now see what <SwitchingQuylthulg> meant. correction follows now...
Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <(Of course, one could look at the differences a bit, instead of merely rounding to the nearest half point.)>

Right, I will do this and keep it the way I did, unless there is a serious flaw in it?!

Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  SwitchingQuylthulg: Well, (if I judged myself not satisfied with the unadulterated version), I personally would have gone 1,2,2,2,5,5,5,8 since Aronian is only a few rating points (and expected centipoints) behind Carlsen/Radja, ditto Grischuk with Ivanchuk/Wang. But this is your contest :)
Feb-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Yes, <Switch> I was thinking of changing Aronian also to shared 2nd. I will follow your advice!

<ELO> predictions (expectations):

1. Anand 2791
2. Carlsen 2764
2. Radjabov 2763
2. Aronian 2758
5. Ivanchuk 2741
5. Wang Yue 2739
5. Grischuk 2733
8. Dominguez 2722

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