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lostemperor
Member since Feb-18-03 · Last seen Feb-02-25
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<FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS' CONTEST FORUM>

Predict the final standings of Tata Steel tournament January 12

Format example to post your predictions

1.Caruana
1. Erigaisi
3. Gukesh
4. Abdusattorov
5. Wei Yi
5. Harikrishna
5. Praggnanandhaa
8. Giri
9. Keymer
10. Fedoseev
11.Van Foreest
12. Sarina
12. Warmerdam
12. Mendonca

Good Luck!


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Some years ago I came up with a new but simple system to calculate the final standings of a tournament including all players. This is how it goes:

For each correct standing you'll get a maximum amount of points. Each prediction deviation from the actual player standing in the tournament, will deduct one point from your total (ABSOLUTE RANKER).

In case of a shared player's standing the average standing counts (both actual and in your predictions).

The SQUARE RANKER, squares your predictions' deviations. Here only medals are awarded if the winner s is not the same person s as in the absolute ranker.

Same goes for the The PAIR BETTING RANKER compare all possible pair outcomes of the tournament participants.

The three best predictions will get Real Virtual Gold Silver and Bronze!

Note: only one set of medals is awarded (in the absolute ranker) unless another ranker produces a different winner.

Special thanks to <YouRang> who made a software to calculate these numbers.

Our new contest manager for game results prediction User: Golden Executive during the tournament also ([1-0], [1/2], [0-1])!

or predict the # of moves in User: ohiochessfan organized by <chessmoron>

Enjoy!


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<HALL <OF> FAME>

WannaBe 10♔ 5♕ 4♖

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♔♔♔♔♔ ♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♖♖♖♖SwitchingQuylthulg

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♔♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♕♕♖♖♖YouRang

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♔♔♔♔♕♕♕♖Aurora
♔♔♔♔♕♕♖suenteus po 147
♔♔♔♔♖♖♖Penguincw

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♔♔♔♕♕♕♖♖♖lostemperor
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖♖♖chessmoron
♔♔♔♕♕♖♖♖rogge
♔♔♔♕♕♖cromat
♔♔♔♕♖Robin01
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♔♔♕♕♕♕WinKing
♔♔♕♕♕♖percyblakeney
♔♔♕♖♖♖yalie
♔♔♕♖wordfunph
♔♔♕♖Ragh
♔♔♕♖Ezzy
♔♔Golden Executive
♔♔SloVice
♔♔positionalgenius
♔♔amadeus

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♔♕♕♕♕♖♖OhioChessFan
♔♕♕♖Diademas
♔♕♖nimh
♔♕♖ahmadov
♔♕♖CHESSBOOKIE
♔♕Keysersoze
♔♕Where is my mind
♔♕Appaz
♔♖♖moronovich*
♔♖Golden Executive*
♔♖Montreal1666
♔♖Troewa

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♔Beholder
♔juan31
♔wtwz
♔Twinlark
♔SoUnwiseTheKnight B4
♔NGambit
♔benjinathan
♔DCP23
♔firebyrd
♔kellmano
♔Stonehenge
♔cu8sfan
♔larrewl
♔babakova
♔djmercury
♔mikejaqua
♔Joshka,
♔SnoopDogg
♔Like a GM

*may be incomplete

♔ Gold
♕ Silver
♖ Bronze


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   lostemperor has kibitzed 7712 times to chessgames   [more...]
   Feb-02-25 lostemperor chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: <Keyser Soze>,<0ZeR0>,<Penguincw> won gold each! Congratulations!
 
   Apr-20-24 Golden Executive chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: It is fixed! I had an expert looking at it.
 
   Jan-18-24 OhioChessFan chessforum (replies)
 
lostemperor: Betcha you. Right damn
 
   Jan-11-24 Tata Steel Masters (2024) (replies)
 
lostemperor: ♔♕♖ Announcement ♔♕♖ Join the annual Tata Teel Chess final standings prediction contest at lostemperor chessforum 1. Ding 2. Nepomniachtchi 3. Firouzja 4, Giri 5. Praggnanandhaa 6. Maghsoodloo 7. Vidit 8.Wei 9. Abdusattorov
 
   Feb-26-23 WR Chess Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: The predictions' winners on the final standings of WR Chess on my forum <Penquincw>♔, <Golden Executive>♔, <Chesschronicle22>♕, <OhioChessFan>♕, <Messiah>♖
 
   Jan-30-23 Tata Steel Masters (2023) (replies)
 
lostemperor: Winners of the TATA STEEL CHESS 2023 FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTION'S CONTEST at my forum <Firouzjias>♔♔♖, <tuttifrutty>♔♕♖, <lostemperor>♕♕, <Messiah>♖
 
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FINAL STANDINGS PREDICTIONS

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 76 OF 285 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Mar-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <YouRang> that would be fine if you can do that! I might hold those pseudo contestants anyway as if they were real ones but it can come up handly if I can make a distinction, now and then, with real contestants!
Mar-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ROUND 12 UPDATE:

Carlsen beat Grischuk to take 2nd place. Grischuk remains in the lead

1. Grishcuk 7
2. Ivanchuk 6.5
2. Carlsen 6.5
4. Anand 6
4. Aronian 6
6. Radjabov 5.5
6. Wang Yue 5.5
8. Dominguez 5

Mar-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: PREDICTION STANDINGS (according to the old CONMAN version)

Maximum score: 38

Score,UserID
27,positionalgenius
25,EvigOptimist
25,Where is my mind
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24,WannaBe
23,chessmoron
23,TheGladiatres
23,yalie
21,ahmadov
21,cromat
21,ELO
21,nimh
21,Robin01
21,UNIBET
21,YuanTi
20,lostemperor
20,OhioChessFan
19,capybara
19,just a kid
19,YouRang
18,CHESSBOOKIE
17,chancho
17,iron maiden
17,MrMelad
17,notyetagm
17,percyblakeney
17,Ragh
17,rogge
16,amadeus
16,suenteus po 147
16,SwitchingQuylthulg
15,Aurora
15,DCP23
15,kellmano
13,imag
13,NakoSonorense

Mar-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: SQUARE RANKER 12:
Maximum score: 140

Score,UserID
113,positionalgenius
108,WannaBe
99,EvigOptimist
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95,yalie
91,cromat
91,Robin01
89,UNIBET
89,Where is my mind
87,TheGladiatres
85,chessmoron
85,ELO
85,nimh
85,YuanTi
84,lostemperor
81,YouRang
77,chancho
73,just a kid
69,ahmadov
65,capybara
65,notyetagm
64,CHESSBOOKIE
64,OhioChessFan
63,DCP23
60,SwitchingQuylthulg
59,iron maiden
58,amadeus
53,kellmano
48,suenteus po 147
47,Aurora
47,percyblakeney
45,MrMelad
43,NakoSonorense
43,rogge
41,imag
39,Ragh

Mar-06-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Since only Carlsen won to reach shared second place in Linares, the pair betting ranker doesn't show major changes. I will do another test run at least after the last round!:)
Mar-06-09  YouRang: <lostemperor: Since only Carlsen won to reach shared second place in Linares, >

You mean Ivanchuk? :-)

Mar-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Uhm .. right! =)
Mar-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ROUND 13:
Ivanchuk won to reach shared first (Grischuk drew).

Linares standings 13:

1. Ivanchuk 7.5
1. Grischuk 7.5
3. Carlsen 7
4. Anand 6.5
5. Radjabov 6
5. Wang Yue 6
5. Aronian 6
8. Dominguez 5.5

Mar-07-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: I will give the final predictions updates after today's last round..
Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: FINAL STANDINGS LINARES 2009:

1. Grischuk 8
1. Ivanchuk 8
3. Carlsen 7.5
4. Anand 7
5. Radjabov 6.5
5. Wang Yue 6.5
5. Aronian 6.5
8. Dominguez 6

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: FINAL PREDICTION GAME STANDINGS LINARES 2009.

Winner: <positionalgenius>!! The only one who predicted a first place for Grischuk. Like in Corus 2007 he was the predictional genius:)

We have three runner-ups with the silver. <chessmoron>, <EvigOptimist> and <where is my mind> (?)!!

Maximum score: 38

Score,UserID
♔26,positionalgenius
♕22,chessmoron
♕22,EvigOptimist
♕22,Where is my mind
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21,WannaBe
20,ahmadov
20,cromat
20,ELO
20,TheGladiatres
20,yalie
19,lostemperor
18,kellmano
18,nimh
18,Robin01
18,UNIBET
18,YuanTi
17,CHESSBOOKIE
17,OhioChessFan
16,chancho
16,just a kid
16,percyblakeney
16,YouRang
15,amadeus
15,suenteus po 147
15,SwitchingQuylthulg
14,Aurora
14,capybara
14,imag
14,iron maiden
14,MrMelad
14,notyetagm
14,Ragh
14,rogge
12,DCP23
12,NakoSonorense

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: SQUARE RANKER LINARES FINAL 2009

Here also <positionalgenius> was unbeatable! HOFers <WannaBe> and <yalie> came in close second and third! Unfortunately no extra medals are awarded here since <positionalgenius> takes all:) Down under, <rogge> beat <Ragh> in reverse alphabetical order ;)

Maximum score: 140

Score,UserID
102,positionalgenius
97,WannaBe
86,yalie
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82,TheGladiatres
80,ELO
80,EvigOptimist
80,Where is my mind
78,cromat
78,UNIBET
78,YuanTi
76,chessmoron
75,lostemperor
74,Robin01
70,nimh
68,ahmadov
64,chancho
62,kellmano
61,amadeus
60,just a kid
60,YouRang
57,SwitchingQuylthulg
55,CHESSBOOKIE
51,OhioChessFan
48,capybara
48,NakoSonorense
46,notyetagm
46,percyblakeney
42,MrMelad
41,suenteus po 147
40,DCP23
40,iron maiden
32,Aurora
30,imag
30,Ragh
30,rogge

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Here the NEW "PAIR BETTING RANKER" all possible thanks to <YouRang>'s software:

Earnings,UserID
85.70,positionalgenius
65.81,kellmano
15.11,yalie
12.36,EvigOptimist
11.03,TheGladiatres
8.21,ELO
7.66,YouRang
3.79,amadeus
2.81,NakoSonorense
2.22,nimh
0.86,Where is my mind
0.18,just a kid
-1.47,chessmoron
-1.96,YuanTi
-2.78,WannaBe
-3.61,cromat
-4.23,Robin01
-5.59,iron maiden
-5.66,ahmadov
-5.76,notyetagm
-6.30,capybara
-8.61,UNIBET
-10.26,OhioChessFan
-11.20,SwitchingQuylthulg
-11.59,chancho
-12.66,imag
-12.69,CHESSBOOKIE
-12.69,lostemperor
-13.01,percyblakeney
-13.18,Ragh
-13.18,rogge
-14.08,suenteus po 147
-14.46,MrMelad
-15.09,DCP23
-15.67,Aurora

Large Payoff Pair results:
Payoff,Pair result,Winners
$35.00,Anand-below-Grischuk, positionalgenius

$35.00,Anand-below-Ivanchuk, kellmano

$35.00,Aronian-below-Grischuk, positionalgenius

$35.00,Aronian-below-Ivanchuk, kellmano

$11.67,Aronian-equal-Radjabov, ELO + TheGladiatres + yalie

$11.67,Grischuk-above-Radjabov, EvigOptimist + positionalgenius + YouRang

$8.75,Carlsen-below-Grischuk, amadeus + NakoSonorense + positionalgenius + YouRang

$8.75,Carlsen-below-Ivanchuk, amadeus + just a kid + kellmano + NakoSonorense

$5.83,Anand-below-Carlsen, EvigOptimist + iron maiden + nimh + notyetagm + Robin01 + TheGladiatres

$5.83,Grischuk-equal-Ivanchuk, ELO + imag + SwitchingQuylthulg + WannaBe + yalie + YuanTi

$5.00,Ivanchuk-above-Radjabov, capybara + chessmoron + cromat + just a kid + kellmano + nimh + Where is my mind

$3.89,Dominguez-below-Wang Yue, ahmadov + chessmoron + ELO + EvigOptimist + OhioChessFan + positionalgenius + TheGladiatres + Where is my mind + yalie

$2.33,Aronian-below-Carlsen, ahmadov + capybara + EvigOptimist + iron maiden + MrMelad + nimh + notyetagm + percyblakeney + Ragh + rogge + TheGladiatres + UNIBET + Where is my mind + yalie + YuanTi

$2.33,Dominguez-below-Grischuk, ahmadov + amadeus + chancho + chessmoron + cromat + ELO + EvigOptimist + positionalgenius + Robin01 + suenteus po 147 + WannaBe + Where is my mind + yalie + YouRang + YuanTi

$1.75,Grischuk-above-Wang Yue, (20 winners)
$1.52,Carlsen-above-Radjabov, (23 winners)
$1.52,Dominguez-below-Ivanchuk, (23 winners)
$1.46,Anand-above-Aronian, (24 winners)
$1.30,Ivanchuk-above-Wang Yue, (27 winners)
$1.17,Dominguez-below-Radjabov, (30 winners)
$1.13,Anand-above-Radjabov, (31 winners)
$1.09,Carlsen-above-Dominguez, (32 winners)
$1.06,Aronian-above-Dominguez, (33 winners)
$1.03,Anand-above-Dominguez, (34 winners)
$1.03,Carlsen-above-Wang Yue, (34 winners)
$1.00,Anand-above-Wang Yue, (35 winners)
$0.00,Aronian-equal-Wang Yue, (0 winners)
$0.00,Radjabov-equal-Wang Yue, (0 winners)

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: For what its worth, at page Linares (2009), I discussed with some others, given the odds, a bet on Grischuk would be a good bet and a bet on Anand, Carlsen and Aronian at 3 something (<4) odds would be bad! :)
Mar-08-09  YouRang: <lostemperor> Thanks for the contest. I got off to a good start this time, but then faded.

My predictions were as follows (with symbols added to indicate which picks were best and worst):

1. Aronian :-(
2. Anand
3. Grischuk
4. Carlsen
5. Dominguez
6. Radjabov :-)
7. Ivanchuk :-(
8. Yue

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: Drat, drat, drat!! I demand a recount, and then another recount, then I'm gonna take you to the Hague to appeal the recount, and then I'll demand yet another recount at the U.N.!!!

My lawyers <RonB52734> and <keypusher> will be in touch with you! =)

Congrats to <positionalgenius>!

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  Open Defence: <Wannabe> I thought you of all people hate recounts :)

ok maybe Al Gore too hehehe

Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <YouRang> not bad at all!
Mar-08-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: <WannaBe> you don't have to take me to the Hague, I can drive there myself in half an hour! Pity you came 5 points short in the square ranker. I would have put the Stars 'n Stripes under your name. Now I don't know where positionalgenius is from? :)
Mar-08-09  positionalgenius: Yes! Another win. Sweeter than corus 2007. <wannabe> thanks:)
Mar-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: Surprise Players

Deviations per player:
Deviation,Player
169,Grischuk
136,Ivanchuk
117,Aronian
83,Anand
74,Radjabov
62,Dominguez
40,Wang Yue
39,Carlsen

Mar-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♗ -Award: best prediction on First Surprise player

<GRISCHUK>: tournament standing 1-2, rated 5-7; CHESSBOOKIE odds 33:1

<positionalgenius> prediction GRISCHUK = 1 (we knew this)!

<YouRang> prediction GRISCHUK = 3

<EvigOptimist> prediction GRISCHUK = 4

Mar-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♘ -Award: best prediction on Second Surprise player

<IVANCHUK>: tournament standing 1-2, rated 5-7(updated after Corus); CHESSBOOKIE odds 8:1

<kellmano> prediction IVANCHUK = 1

<just a kid> prediction IVANCHUK = 3

Mar-10-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  lostemperor: ♙-Award: best prediction on Third Upset

<ARONIAN>: tournament standing 5-7, rated 2-4; CHESSBOOKIE odds 4:1

<kellmano> prediction ARONIAN = 5-7 (CORRECT!)

Mar-16-09  TheGladiatres: Not to bad a result, but no awards this time ;)
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