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| Dec-07-11 | | technical draw: Minnie Miñoso should get in just because they have been misspelling and mispronouncing his name like forever! |
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| Dec-07-11 | | Jim Bartle: Is that what's known as the Mientkiewicz exception? |
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Dec-07-11
 | | Phony Benoni: Here's Miñoso's record:
http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
I wasn't aware that he led the league in being hit by pitches 10 times in 11 years. I did know about his unusual "double" in 1953, leading the league in both stolen bases and double-plays grounded into. Think about that. |
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| Dec-07-11 | | Jim Bartle: More amazing to me, he had more GIDPs than stolen bases, plus he was caught stealing almost as often as he made it. They really ran wild in the American League in the 50s. |
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| Dec-07-11 | | Deus Ex Alekhina: I always liked to root for my hometown Lions, but not anymore. I pointed out a year ago here that Suh had a dirty rep, and in the meantime, the management has done absolutely nothing to "re-program" this jerk. Clearly, he has no clue, and continues to try & injure others, even on innocent little plays - he was taken down to the ground & grabbed a little on the turkey day game, but that is perfectly normal behavior on just about every other play in football. Let the idiot Lions lose all the rest of their games, and then get rid of Suh and Schwartz, who is tacitly complicit in these things. |
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Dec-07-11
 | | Phony Benoni: OK. We Michiganders (and even we Michiganians) can understand the Packers beating the Lions. They're not a bad team. And we can live with the Badgers lucking out against the Spartans. These things happen. But now they've gone too far. Wisconsin, prepare for war! http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf... |
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Dec-07-11
 | | WannaBe: Men, to arms, women, to... Err... Macy's?? Need more gloves. |
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| Dec-07-11 | | Jim Bartle: At the very least Wisconsin has a very withered thumb. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | playground player: <WannaBe> You are totally, hopelessly wrong. Yankee wife-swappers Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich were long gone by 1977, traded away to bad teams. In 1977 Kekich was in the Seattle Mariners' bullpen and Peterson was out of baseball. The Yankee management by 1977 had also purged the team of grave-robbers, spies, and regicides. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: Not so sure about that. I'd say Billy Martin could qualify as a reggicide. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | King Death: Pujols to the Left Coast.
http://scott-miller.blogs.cbssports... <WannaBe> What <playgroundplayer> says is true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_K... |
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Dec-08-11
 | | WannaBe: <playground player> Thanks for the correction, I don't follow the Yankees as well as some. But I know it happened, just got the years wrong! =) Oh, my, watch Angels season ticket sales go through the roof. Mike Scioscia gonna be a happy skipper, they will definitely contend for AL West. In an unrelated baseball news, Dodgers have signed Pedro Gurrero, Manny Ramirez, Steve Garvey, Steve Sax, and Cecil Fielder to boost their offence. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: This is not right. Even if Pujols had signed with the Giants, it wouldn't have been right. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | OhioChessFan: I think the whole bidding war is beyond ugly. Why not just put the World Series trophy up for bid at the beginning of the year? And I am really puzzled at the typical Yankees fan who doesn't give a second's thought to how pathetic the whole process is. Rah, team, we bought a hired gun for 100 million and we beat those poor slobs whose whole payroll is less than we paid for our bench players. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: But look at the team the Yankees put on the field in their big years of 1996-2001. Not a single multi-million dollar free agent in the daily lineup, with the possible exception of Knoblauch, who was no huge star. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | Phony Benoni: I wonder how Mark Trumbo feels at the moment. He didn't have a bad year in 2011, with 29 HR and 87 RBI. True, his .254 batting average and 20 walks for the entire season could use improvement, but he surely figured on being the Angels' first baseman again in 2012. Instead, his status has been instantly reduced to <Answer To Trivia Question>. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | OhioChessFan: They had David Cone for about 6 mill a year, Chili Davis for 4 mill, David Wells about 4 mill a year, all Free Agents. They got Tino Martinez for 4 mill a year in a trade from Seattle which was a salary dump for the M's. They had Bernie Williams at 8 mill a year and Andy Pettite at 3 mill, they could afford to keep them. Obtaining players via trades in salary dumps by the other team is simply the other side of the coin. And they never had to worry about keeping players, since they'd simply increase payroll and not worry about losing them. "Rah, rah, Jeter is a Yankee through and through." Of course, if Jeter had come up in a small market, the Yanks would have bought him away the first time he was available for FA. The smaller market teams always face that short window of opportunity, and know their best players won't be around for their whole career. But Yanks fans don't care about that since it doesn't affect them. It is beyond ugly. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | WannaBe: <Phony Benoni> I dunno, would you DH Albert? 10 years can be quite a bit of wear and tear, so why not DH Albert!? <OhioChessFan> Don't forget, the Yankees also have signed Steve Sax... |
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| Dec-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: OCF: I was talking specifically about the Yankees' daily lineup, not the pitching staff. Sure, they held on to Jeter (a young player then) and Williams, who finally started playing well after several ordinary years. They picked up Martinez, Knoblauch, Chili Davis from other teams, but none could be considered a big signing, none a big star. O'Neill they picked up in a straight trade. I'd certainly say the Yankees had fewer big-time free agents during those years they were winning the World Series than they've had much of the time when they haven't won. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | Phony Benoni: In some ways, baseball was more pleasant back in the days when more players stuck to a team for longer, even their whole careers. Of course, this was due less to loyalty than to the reserve clause and the owners' near absolute power over a player's movements. But baseball today is a better reflection of American society as a whole. A job is accepted only as a steppingstone to a more prestigious and lucrative position. The rich can afford what they want, while those not so well endowed make do with what they can afford. And I'd better shut up before I turn into a Democrat or something. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | OhioChessFan: <JB: I'd certainly say the Yankees had fewer big-time free agents during those years they were winning the World Series than they've had much of the time when they haven't won.> Okay, that point is valid. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | playground player: Run-of-the-mill tickets at Yankee Stadium, $275 per game and up. Gas, tolls, parking, beer, and hot dog--don't ask. Exit yours truly from the whole sorry business. But I still love baseball's past.
<Phony Benoni> If you haven't turned into a Democrat by now, you're probably safe. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | Jim Bartle: Giants-Dodgers season opener at Candlestick, 1976: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... This was Dusty Baker's debut with the Dodgers, and they had high hopes for him to help them challenge Cincinnati. In the first inning he hit a homer off Giants loudmouth starter John Montefusco, and the entire Dodger team came out of the dugout and really gave to The Count. Montefusco settled down and won the game, though. Hard to look at the Giants lineup; mediocre to decent players, not a single really good player. LA led off with noted speedster Bill Buckner. |
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Dec-08-11
 | | Phony Benoni: So that was the problem with Buckner in '86. His feet were still moving. |
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| Dec-08-11 | | King Death: Here's a game you all remember I'm sure that featured Buckner. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... That Monday night, I was knocking a couple back at some random bar in Reno, watching the game and what I remember was how Buckner just stood there in left when Aaron cranked out #715. |
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