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Oct-27-13
 | | WannaBe: And tonight, we have a pick-off at first to end the game. Japanese pitcher picking off Chinese-American from Univ. of Hawaii. Gotta be a first in baseball history. |
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Oct-27-13
 | | Phony Benoni: And now a walk-off pick-off? This may not be the best World Series ever, but it's shaping up to be one of the weirdest. And game 7 is scheduled for Halloween. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Jim Bartle: I saw a balk walk-off once, in the regular season, Reyes of the Mets fooling a Giants pitcher from third base. The worst for Berry is he was a pinch-runner. He hadn't even earned his way on. Plus his potential run wasn't the key one, so he shouldn't have been far off th base. I saw an A's game in 1987 where Walt Weiss, in I think his major league debut, came in to pinch run with the A's one run behind in the ninth, and was immediately picked off. Don't remember if it was the last out. Once again, take out a starter who isn't doing that badly, and the next batter blasts one. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Jim Bartle: Now having seen some video, I'm even more irritated that I switched to a different game. That was great when Stafford called for a spike then dove over the line. He saw a couple of Dallas lineman weren't really ready, expecting the spike. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | hangingenprise: phony: the lions are the hot topic on the monday sports news!
ooha
is your pal travis is a bit nervous
about the lions coming to chi town? |
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| Oct-28-13 | | playground player: <Phony Benoni> Do you mind if I pick your brain, and the brains of the other mavens who congregate here in the Cafe de la Regence of sports? I've been relaxing my mind by trying to pick all-time all-star baseball teams for each decade. For example, my 1960s team: c-Tim McCarver
1B-Willie McCovey
2B-Bobby Richardson
3B-Harmon Killebrew/Brooks Robinson (a toss-up)
SS-Maury Wills (just edging out Luis Aparicio)
CF-Willie Mays
RF-Henry Aaron
LF-(toss-up)Carl Yastrzemski/Frank Robinson
RHP-Juan Marichal
LHP-Sandy Koufax
RP-Dick Radatz
What say you, baseball lovers? I find this is a good way to divert myself from thinking about weighty social/political issues that I can't do anything about. Anyhow, I'd love to read your nominees. Or, if you think I'm right on target, offer a team for another decade. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | hangingenprise: playground player:
ever hear of a pitcher names bob gibson? |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Jim Bartle: Surprised there were a couple of positions without great players in the 60s. I'd say Bill Freehan was the best catcher, Rose the best second baseman, Brooks Robinson at third, and (grudgingly) I will accept Wills at short, though he wasn't all that good. I'd consider Marichal and Gibson to be a tossup. |
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Oct-28-13
 | | Phony Benoni: Freehan over McCarver, definitely. Better hitter, no dropoff defensively, and even Gibson would think twice about talking back to him. Aparicio over Wjlls; better fielder and he might have stolen 100 playing for the Dodgers. Brooks at third; his defense outweighs Killebrew's power. Probably Rose over Richardson, who never had eye-popping numbers. I don't think I would pick Radatz as relief pitcher; he really only had a couple of good years. Of course, few relief pitchers of that era did better. Might look into Hoyt Wilhelm for consistent, long-term excellence. |
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Oct-28-13
 | | perfidious: A point which Bill James made re Gibson vs Marichal was that Gibson got the nationwide exposure in winning games as his teams were playing several World Series, all of which were belaboured to the point that one must, perforce, conclude that Gibson was the clearly greater of the two. Here are the career records of the pair:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... http://www.baseball-reference.com/p... In my opinion, the case that Gibson had the evidently better career is far from clear, and it appears to be only his superlative 1968 season which gives an edge at all. Marichal had a string of outstanding seasons, during part of which he laboured under the spectre of Koufax, a standard by which any mere mortal would come up short from 1962-1966. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | playground player: The Sixties were a decade rich in pitching. I considered Gibson, but went with Marichal. I considered Denny McClain, too, whose achievements in the 1960s were as impressive as anyone's. But Koufax does stand out from the crowd in a class by himself. There were many excellent relievers, but Radatz was the one who most impressed me at the time--although Stu Miller was my favorite. I can accept Bill Freehan over Tim McCarver behind the plate. I also considered Earl Battey. I gave the shortstop nod to Wills over Aparicio on the basis of his MVP year and his role as the Dodger's offensive catalyst. Of course, it speaks for itself that Aparicio is in the Hall of Fame and Wills isn't. But I didn't want to go by that standard alone. At least my picks for the outfield seem pretty uncontroversial. |
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| Oct-28-13 | | technical draw: El Predicto called it Cards in six. There are 3 games remaining. Cards have to win 2. How hard can that be? |
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Oct-28-13
 | | Phony Benoni: And now in game 5 the most incredible event of all: David Ortiz makes an out! |
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| Oct-28-13 | | Jim Bartle: ...on a ball he hit about 350 feet on a line. |
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| Oct-29-13 | | talisman: this world series is going down as a classic. this will put Ortiz in the HOF despite suspicions of ped. more like whispers at this point.
<playgroung player> liked your list for the most part. the Giants were the best team throughout the 60's never to win the WS. how they only won 1 pennant is a mystery except they never had more than 2 really good pitchers at one time. |
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| Oct-29-13 | | Jim Bartle: The Giants had four very good starters in 1962, which of course is the year they won the pennant. They also had three really good starters in 1967, but Marichal got injured. Wouldn't have made any difference if he'd stayed healthy. The other years they basically got edged out by the Dodgers three times, then the Cards were far too good in 67 and 68 after the gift of Cepeda. |
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| Oct-29-13 | | Jim Bartle: The famous Gaylord Perry 'Man on the Moon' game in 1969: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... |
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Oct-29-13
 | | WannaBe: http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/p... I can't remember the last time with so many first timers or hispanic players. |
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Oct-29-13
 | | Phony Benoni: Of course Dickey is on the list Knuckleball ptichers have time to get set up and give themselves a little pepper before the ball reaches the plate. |
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| Oct-29-13 | | Jim Bartle: Just what I was thinking. |
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Oct-29-13
 | | Phony Benoni: <hangingenprise> I haven't been ignoring you. It's just that Tony Dungy called Stafford play risky because if he hadn't gotten the touchdown call the clock would have run out. I've been suffering nervous agony since. Travis will be back in a couple of weeks, when the Lions play at Chicago in a game with playoff implications. Basically, it looks like Green Bay in the division, since they've taken the lead despite key injuries.. San Franciscio/ or Seattle will surely take one of the Wild Card spots, so the Lions (5-3) are fighting for the second one with Chicago (4-4), Carolina (4-3), and Arizona (4-4). And don't look now, but the Giants are only two games behind the Cowboys. It could happen! It could happen! |
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| Oct-29-13 | | Jim Bartle: < It's just that Tony Dungy called Stafford play risky because if he hadn't gotten the touchdown call the clock would have run out.> But it did work, that's what counts. Stafford said th Dallas linemen weren't really ready to play, so he took charge. |
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Oct-30-13
 | | WannaBe: "Fortune favours the Bold", or "Those who Dares, Wins." |
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| Oct-30-13 | | talisman: <Phony> who you pulling for? I'm pulling for the sox even though I like both teams. I think the sox need to win it tonight or they will have pitching problems for game 7. |
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| Oct-30-13 | | Jim Bartle: The Red Sox playing a Game 6 in the World Series...could be interesting. |
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