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| Feb-28-14 | | Jim Bartle: ....which can be captured by the rook on b7. |
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Feb-28-14
 | | WannaBe: <JB> Ooops, you are correct. |
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| Feb-28-14 | | Jim Bartle: <WannaBe: <JB> Ooops, you are correct.> straight to <memorable quotes>, if not framed and hung on my wall. |
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Mar-01-14
 | | perfidious: <PB: If only Comiskey had spent that money on a few of his stars, history might have been much different.> One irony of that is that Chappell was the player to be named in the trade which netted Chicago Shoeless Joe Jackson. |
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Mar-01-14
 | | Phony Benoni: <perfidious> From the SABR biography of Jackson, http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/7afa... <"In 1915 Somers, teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, decided that he could not afford to keep his two best players, Jackson and Chapman. He needed to trade one and rebuild the ballclub (which was renamed as the Indians after the team sold Lajoie to Philadelphia that spring) around the other. Somers' mind was made up when the newspapers reported that the Federal League had offered Jackson a multiple-year contract at a salary of $10,000 per year. Somers feared that Jackson would bolt for the new circuit, leaving the Indians with nothing in exchange, so the Cleveland owner solicited offers for his cleanup hitter."> A decision which wound up having tragic consequencws for both players. <"Jackson, who at the time was in the second season of a three-year contract for $6,000 per annum, was not opposed to a trade. "I think I am in a rut here in Cleveland," Jackson told local sportswriter Henry Edwards, "and would play better somewhere else." Indeed, Jackson's batting average had now declined for four consecutive years. The Washington Senators offered a package of players for Jackson, but Somers rejected the bid to await a better one, which soon came from the Chicago White Sox. Owner Charles Comiskey coveted Jackson, and sent his secretary, Harry Grabiner, to Cleveland with a blank check. "Go to Cleveland," ordered Comiskey, "watch the bidding for Jackson, [and] raise the highest one made by any club until they all drop out." On August 20, 1915, Grabiner and Somers reached an agreement. Somers signed Joe to a three-year contract extension at his previous salary, then sent him to Chicago for $31,500 in cash and three players (outfielders Bobby Roth and Larry Chappell and pitcher Ed Klepfer) who collectively had cost the White Sox $34,000 to acquire. In terms of the total value of cash and players, this $65,500 transaction was the most expensive deal ever made in baseball up to that time."> Then, in April 1916, Somers spent $55,000 to get Tris Speaker from the Red Sox. Interesting. |
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Mar-01-14
 | | perfidious: A total of $65 K for that deal? These days, superstars don't even get out of bed for that kind of dough. |
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Mar-01-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Well, remember Jackson's salary was 10K and he was considered highly paid. Take your $20 million/year superstar today, and it's the equivalent of $130 million. That's rather substantial at one pop. |
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Mar-01-14
 | | perfidious: <PB> Of course; even Ruth's salary in his prime, while immense, was nothing by the standards of today. One could imagine him drawing $35M plus with ease. |
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| Mar-02-14 | | playground player: $10,000 a year was mighty good money in 1915.
Did Jackson have to take a pay cut when he went to work for Comiskey? |
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Mar-02-14
 | | OhioChessFan: <Phony: An action shot of legendary tennis star Suzanne Lenglen. Wonder if she ever grunted?> <hanging: phony: is not she one of your past flames?> I am pretty sure he meant grunting while playing tennis. |
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Mar-02-14
 | | OhioChessFan: <WannaBe: <JB> Ooops, you are correct.> <JB: straight to <memorable quotes>, if not framed and hung on my wall.> Well, <Wannabe> being wrong isn't all that memorable, so it must be the fact someone says you're correct. |
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| Mar-02-14 | | Jim Bartle: Here's a position I reached with white against Hiarcs. I wonder if my attack was sound.  click for larger viewMy apologies if I've posted this before. |
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| Mar-02-14 | | Shams: <JB> I can't make it work. But if you mated Hiarcs, I'm prepared to call your attack sound! Also I finally figured out what your avatar reminds me of. I won't tell you; I'll just say that whenever I see it I have the urge to offer you two bricks for a sheep and a wood. |
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| Mar-02-14 | | Jim Bartle: That's too cryptic for me.
I started with Ne6+, with the idea of getting the queen to g5 or h6. |
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Mar-03-14
 | | Phony Benoni: <JB> It's not easy to figure out. 1.Ne6+ looks interesting. The knight has to be taken, as Black gets mated quickly after 1...Kg8 2.Rh8+. After 1.Ne6+ fxe6 2.Qh6+ Kg8 3.Qxg6+ Kf8 4.Qxf6+ Ke8 5.Rh8+ Kd7 6.Rh7+ and 7.Qh8#. However, 2...Kf7 is a harder nut to crack. Possibly White should play 2.dxe6 before the queen check, to cut off the king from f7. Bu tthat's a quiet move, and Black has a chance to defend. Let's see: 1.Ne6+ fxe6 2.dxe6 Rh8 ... hmm, how about 3.Nf5+. We've seen the idea of 3...Kg8 4.Rxh8+ Kxh8 5.Qh6+ before, and after 3...gxf5 4.Qg5+ becomes a possibility. But that's all getting rather fuzzy. |
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| Mar-03-14 | | Jim Bartle: <Let's see: 1.Ne6+ fxe6 2.dxe6 Rh8 ... hmm, how about 3.Nf5+. We've seen the idea of 3...Kg8 4.Rxh8+ Kxh8 5.Qh6+ before, and after 3...gxf5 4.Qg5+ becomes a possibility.> That's what I did, the double knight sacrifice: 1 Ne6+ fxe6 2 dxe6 Ng8 3 Nf5+ gxf5 4 Qg5+. Then I captured on f5 and several moves are good, Qf7+, Rh7, Rh8. When I tried it against Stockfish, it gave the piece right back with 2...Nxe4 and I still had an advantage, but not crushing. At least it wasn't really obvious, and I was pleased to find it. 2....Rh8 is a mate in three starting with Nf5+. |
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| Mar-04-14 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, here's the biggest drunk of all time!! ; P http://www.drunkard.com/issues/10_0... |
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Mar-04-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Hey, Travis, 7,000 calories a day from beer is no big deal. That's only about 8 six-packs. Average half for a Bears fan. |
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| Mar-04-14 | | Travis Bickle: Hey Phony, you're probably right especially with those tailgate parties before the game. LOL! P.S. Increase the total of alcohol consumption by at least double if The Bears beat The Packers, Lions or Vikings! ; P |
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| Mar-04-14 | | Sally Simpson: Hi Phony Benoni.
I did my little piece on that Pillsbury game that never happened. I found a very interesting mention of the game at end of the book by Sergeant & Watts. Thanks for you help.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/blog/blog... |
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| Mar-06-14 | | hangingenprise: phony: #5 nick lidstrom hangs up his red wing jersey. damn shame travis blackhawks are not in the same division anymore. go wings! |
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| Mar-06-14 | | Travis Bickle: <hangingenprise> Go Hawks!! ; P |
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Mar-06-14
 | | Phony Benoni: <hangingenprise> Wings have so many injuries right now that there's half-serious talk of bringing Lidstrom back. Don't think it will hapen, tough. The Wings probably need to retool, but there's the burden of that 22-year playoff streak. If they don't make it this year--and it's a very real possibility--they may not make it back for a few more. Not quite as bad as the Yankees after 1964, but the same sort of situation. |
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Mar-06-14
 | | perfidious: <PB> Wings will be in a sort of purgatory which middling teams face in the major sports: not bad enough to get a top pick which could net them a player to turn a franchise around, but not good enough to contend for a championship, either. In my opinion, this is where the better franchises demonstrate superior acumen in the long term: player development and assessment of talent. |
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Mar-06-14
 | | WannaBe: D. Hester won't be returning to da Bears... |
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