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| Sep-01-14 | | Jim Bartle: What's happened to the 49ers?
They were always classy, even when they weren't a good team. Now it's one arrest after another, pretty much since Harbaugh became the coach. |
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Sep-01-14
 | | OhioChessFan: < Can anybody understand this double play from 1949? What about the infield fly rule? Berra tagged home and ran to third to tag a runner? TIGERS 1ST: Campbell walked; Kolloway walked [Campbell to second]; Kell was hit by a pitch [Campbell to third, Kolloway to second]; Wertz hit into a double play to second [Kolloway out at third (second to catcher), Campbell stayed at third, Kell stayed at first]; Snuffy Stirnweiss dropped the infield fly; he threw the ball to Yogi Berra who stepped on HP and ran to 3B; after Berra tagged Don Kolloway the Yankees insisted this was a triple play but 3B umpire Red Jones ruled Stirnweiss dropped the ball intentionally; Evers singled to center [Campbell scored, Kell to second]; Groth grounded out (third to first);> Batter out on infield fly rule. One out. Throw home was irrelevant other than identifying the person who is credited with the second putout. Touching home by Berra was irrelevant. The runner from second, Kolloway, didn't need to run once the infield fly rule was called. He did so anyway and was tagged somewhere near, or on, third base. Two outs. The runner on third, Campbell, didn't need to run and didn't. If he and Kolloway both were standing on third, and both were tagged, Kolloway was properly called out. There was no legitimate claim for a triple play. An intentional dropping of the ball had no bearing on whether the runner originally on third would be out or not. I don't recall if there is something about intentionally dropping the ball to confuse the runners in that situation, maybe, I lean toward no. |
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| Sep-01-14 | | Jim Bartle: Makes sense. But then "ruled...dropped the ball intentionally" has to be wrong, because it wouldn't matter. |
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Sep-01-14
 | | WannaBe: Baseball Statistics/Scoring Question:
Today, Rockies had runner on first and second base, they both took off, the man going from first got caught at second. But the runner from second was safe at third, what are the individual/team statistic that should be recorded in the book? I looked it up and know the answer. :-) |
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Sep-01-14
 | | OhioChessFan: 1 caught stealing. 0 stolen base. Didn't need to look it up. |
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Sep-01-14
 | | WannaBe: <OhioChessFan> Correct! I thought it was (ac)credited as SB for the 3rd base, and CS for 2nd base. Then I started thinking, what is the stat for the poor catcher? Doesn't seem quite fair... So I looked it up! =) |
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| Sep-02-14 | | Boomie: <re: Cannons in right field> In the mid 60's my family lived in Sedalia, Missouri. One weekend, my Dad took my brother and I to St. Louis to see a Cardinals game. The Pirates were in town. With a man on 2nd and 1 out, a long fly ball was hit to right field, but it was caught on the warning track. The fielder threw a strike to 3rd base on the fly. That was Roberto Clemente. The funny part was the guy on 2nd didn't even try to tag up and advance...heh. |
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Sep-02-14
 | | WannaBe: More 'Funny' box score on that SF-COL continuation game and the game that followed: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-b... |
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Sep-02-14
 | | perfidious: No surprise that Clemente led the National League in assists multiple times, but I was taken aback to note that he led in errors even more often. |
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| Sep-02-14 | | Jim Bartle: Bill James hath decreed that a large number of errors is not necessarily indicative of a poor fielder. It may occur with a player who reaches many more balls than others. He wrote that Clemente had some of the best fielding statistics of any outfielder, if you know how to read them. And I say outfield assists is a strange stat, since they are dependent on runners challenging the fielder's arm. Clemente might have zero assists because nobody rsn on him, and Lonnie Smith had a hundred in his career because runners thought they could always take a base on him. |
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Sep-02-14
 | | perfidious: <Jim> James wrote thus of Tony Fernandez, who made a mass of errors early on, because he had tremendous range at short, so got to everything. Too bad the injuries derailed what may well have been a great career. |
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Sep-02-14
 | | WannaBe: Strange game between DET-CLE, Tigers pounded out 12 hits (so far) and have one run to show for it. Ugh... |
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Sep-02-14
 | | Phony Benoni: You don't have to remind me. Molasses could take this team's correspondence course. |
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Sep-02-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Up to 14 hits now, and still their only run came on a bases-loaded walk. |
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Sep-02-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Finally. Hit 15 was a three run homer. |
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Sep-03-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Hey, Travis! I've been out of touch for a few days, playing chess (if you remember what that's like). Thanks for your good wishes to the Lions, and good luck to your Bears as well. The Packers can sit on their frozen tundras for all I care. |
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Sep-03-14
 | | perfidious: Maybe <PB> was watching a Red Sox game and confused their uniforms with Tigers'. Sounds entirely too familiar this season. The sorry ledger: shut out thirteen times to date, held to three or fewer hits eleven times and one-hit thrice. Small wonder they are last in runs scored, all while playing in a park which favours the hitter. |
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| Sep-04-14 | | crawfb5: I've been going through Woodger's book on Fine, fixing game dates where possible. Fine played in three Hastings tournaments, so that should provide dates for those events. 1935/6, 1936/7, and 1937/8 all had rounds on the same dates: 1 – 28 December
2 – 29 December
3 – 30 December
4 – 1 January
5 – 2 January
6 – 3 January
7 – 4 January
8 – 5 January
9 – 6 January
Of course this could probably be inferred, as there seems to have been no rest days. |
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Sep-04-14
 | | Phony Benoni: <crawfb5> The overall dates agree with those given in Di Felice, and there is a rest day on December 31. However, my book of Alekhine's games gives the rest day in 1936/37 as January 3, so it looks as though the individual dates still need to be worked on. By the way, I've stopped work on about everything except the US Open. And I don't hang around the Bistro at all. Can't keep up with the kids anymore. |
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Sep-05-14
 | | WannaBe: Tiger Woods should play this golf course, have a good chance of making the cut. http://espn.go.com/minor-league-bas... |
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Sep-05-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Probably not. He'd keep getting ground rule double bogeys. |
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| Sep-06-14 | | Travis Bickle: Hey my Good Pal Phony! I was just on Playchess.com & was having my ass handed to me in blitz games for what seemed like 1,000 games! But I hung in there like Rocky Balboa & won a sweet victory!! I was down a piece but with pawns to push... "& that has made all the difference"! P.S. Mr Benoni, with all that exciting Tigers baseball to watch you haven't been talking too much football... Now that the Tigers charge the most for beer what about your lions? ; P |
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Sep-06-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Travis, the Lions are right up there too. But there's a good reason. Fabs have learned that the team looks best when your vision is blurry! Long time Lions fans aren't getting excited. This new coach talks the talk, but there was little sign in the preseason that this team has learned to play smart football. It's even money that Caldwell has that traditional Deer in the Headlights look by midseason. |
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Sep-06-14
 | | Phony Benoni: Meanwhile, the Tigers lost again today, Michigan State couldn't keep up with Oregon, and Michigan is getting humiliated by Notre Dame. At least Central Michigan beat Purdue, Eastern Michigan held Florida under 70 points, and Western Michigan probably picked a good week for a bye. |
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| Sep-07-14 | | Jim Bartle: Sounds like it's time to establish Northern Michigan. |
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