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| May-21-16 | | Jim Bartle: That's a good one. So pitchers should not try to be too good as rookies. |
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May-21-16
 | | Penguincw: CLE-BOS: Jackie Bradley Jr., after 2 walks, gets a base <hit> to extend his <hitting> streak to 26 games. ---
Random topic: this thought came to my mind, but do you K-Rod (Francisco Rodriguez), does he deserve to be in the HOF, when he becomes eligible? I actually thought he was retired, but he's with the Tigers now. This guy, his career seems to have lots of highs and lows. For instance, he holds the record for most saves in a season (62), but at the same time, he once surrendered an <RBI walk to Mariano Rivera>, and is also the only pitcher to surrender 2 game winning grand slams to 2 different rookies. I'm thinking yes, maybe not first try. |
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May-21-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Well, that depends. He's pitching in a save situation right now. Talk to me in about five minutes. |
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May-21-16
 | | Phony Benoni: OK, Tigers win. K-Rod goes back into the Hall of Fame. But I know what you mean. Look at, say, Stan Musial. Not a bad player, but he went 0-for-8 lifetime against Mike Budnick. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/...
Yes, Mike Budnick. How could anyone with that sort of mark on this record ever get into the HOF? |
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May-22-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Ichiro went 4-4 Saturday night, giving him 19 hits over the first quarter of the season. He needs 46 more for 3000, so he has a shot to get there. Especially if he keeps hitting .373 and gets a little more playing time. |
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May-22-16
 | | Penguincw: While on that topic, Ichiro now has 2954 MLB hits, in addition to 1278 hits in Japan, for a total of 4232 hits. Pete Rose meanwhile has 4256 hits. I believe when asked about Ichiro's "professional hit total", Rose mentioned that his 427 minor league hits should count too, for a total of 4,683 hits. Then of course, there's also Ty Cobb, with his 4,189 hits. He had an addition 166 hits in minor, independent and Cuban leagues (so 4,355). Other professional players with 4000+ hits would be Hank Aaron (3771+324=4095), Stan Musial (3630+371=4001), Derek Jeter (3465+554=4019) and some guy named Jigger Statz (737+3356=4093). Looking at their professional career batting averages, it would be Ichiro .325, Rose .304, Cobb .364, Aaron .308, Musial .331, Jeter .309 and Statz .309. |
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| May-22-16 | | Jim Bartle: Ichiro, so tough to evaluate.
So many hits, so many runs.
So many outs, so few walks.
.314 BA .356 OBP .405 SLP. |
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| May-22-16 | | Boomie: ->
As a lifetime Seattle fan (pity me), I'm guessing that Ichiro will be a first ballot HOFer. If not for his rookie season, perhaps the best by a leadoff hitter in the modern era, then for his stellar defense. He was the best athlete on a team loaded with HOFers. Junior was also an extraordinary defender and a joy to watch, but his arm was suspect. Ichiro had one of the most accurate arms I've seen. I wonder why Ichiro didn't bunt. I think he would have hit .400 in his rookie season if he was an accomplished bunter. He also could have been a better base stealer although he is currently the leader among active players. Aside from those minor quibbles, Ichiro was as close to a complete player as we've seen. |
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| May-22-16 | | Jim Bartle: <Aside from those minor quibbles, Ichiro was as close to a complete player as we've seen.> Quibbles like a routine OBP for a leadoff hitter, and little power? I would also say Rickey Henderson had several better years than Ichiro's 2001. Boggs a cpuple, too, maybe Raines once or twice. On-base average is more important than batting average for leadoff hitters. Great outfielder, though. |
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| May-22-16 | | Boomie: <Jim Bartle: and little power> The lowish OBP is a minus but the power dig is just wrong. Ichiro had great power. He routinely hit tape measures in batting practice. But he chose to hit for average instead. From the Wiki article:
Sportswriter Bruce Jenkins, writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, described Ichiro's distinctive style of play: "There's nobody like Ichiro in either league—now or ever. He exists strictly within his own world, playing a game 100 percent unfamiliar to everyone else. The game has known plenty of 'slap' hitters, but none who sacrifice so much natural ability for the sake of the art... Ichiro, a man of wondrous strength, puts on impressive power-hitting displays almost nightly in batting practice. And he'll go deep occasionally in games, looking very much like someone who could do it again, often... [but] the man lives for hits, little tiny ones, and the glory of standing atop the world in that category. Every spring, scouts or media types write him off, swearing that opposing pitchers have found the key, and they are embarrassingly wrong." And Ichiro said: "If I'm allowed to hit .220, I could probably hit 40 [home runs], but nobody wants that." |
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| May-22-16 | | Jim Bartle: All that matters is the power that helps win games. If he has power but doesn't use it, in effect he doesn't have it. Jenkins is correct as usual. I'm biased, though, as he and I are longtime email friends. |
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May-22-16
 | | WannaBe: Y'all had email in 1968?!!? |
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May-22-16
 | | WannaBe: LAD/SD, let's play 2, bottom 15... The batboy'll coming up to pinch hit, and pitch the 16th. =))) |
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May-22-16
 | | Penguincw: Wow, even Kershaw got involved, hitting into a fielder's choice in the 15th. Dodgers up 8-5 in the 17th, trying to pour it on some more. |
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| May-22-16 | | Jim Bartle: 1968?? |
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May-22-16
 | | WannaBe: <Jenkins is correct as usual. I'm biased, though, as he and I are longtime email friends.> Thought you meant Ferguson... Must be another Jenkins. =)) |
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May-22-16
 | | WannaBe: Marathon over, 17 innings, Dodgers prevailed... |
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| May-22-16 | | Jim Bartle: Cincinnati Reds lineup 1960-2015
Pete Rose 3b
Joe Morgan 2b
Frank Robinson rf
Johnny Bench c
Joey Votto 1b
Eric Davis cf
George Foster lf
Barry Larkin ss
That's scary, though almost all the power is righthanded. I would put Votto 3rd, except that would leave six straight righthanders. |
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May-22-16
 | | OhioChessFan: Maybe Griffey in center, though his best years were past by the time he got to the Reds. Vada Pinson was quite a player too. |
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| May-22-16 | | Jim Bartle: I was thinking Pinson in center if Davis didn't play long enough. Also thought about Dave Parker. In any case Foster/Larkin at 7/8 is just ridiculous. |
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May-23-16
 | | WannaBe: This is why SF and fans LOOOOOOOOVE MadBum:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gam...
Drove in the only run hisself and got a quality start, gave up only 3 hits. Poor Hendricks got no support and got stuck with the 'L'. |
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| May-23-16 | | Jim Bartle: From what I see Giants fans love Bumgarner, but their favorite is still Tim Lincecum, even though he isn't any good any more. |
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May-23-16
 | | WannaBe: Truly Useless Information Department (TUID)
<Jayson Stark
ESPN Senior Writer
Had something cool happen this weekend for the 1st time in the live-ball era: Two different 40-somethings (Ichiro Suzuki & David Ortiz) went 4-for-4 on back-to-back days. The only previous time it had ever even happened in the same month was July 1993 (Dave Winfield on July 9, George Brett on July 26).> Thanks Jay for the info!! =) |
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May-23-16
 | | WannaBe: Poor Reds, loser of 7 in a row and after their trip to Seattle last weekend, they'll start Monday at LAD, and some left-handed pitcher named Clayton. If I'm Reds' front office management, I'd file a law-suit to MLB for unfair labour practices. That's just not right!! Clayton will be going for 7-games in a row with double-digit strike outs. Longest stretch for his career was 3-games in a row, and he did it three times. (Stat from baseball-reference.com) The way Clayton's pitching, he'll reach double-digits just during batting practice. The betting line is LAD -370 O/U 6.5, they really think Dodgers can score 7 runs? By they-selves?? |
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May-23-16
 | | OhioChessFan: I'll take the Dodgers and the over. There was an Elvis sighting at the Reds game yesterday. Seattle had more bloops and thousand hoppers through the infield than you'd see in a week of Cardinals games. Reds had vicious line drives right at people, warning track outs, and lost a game they should have won going away. |
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