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Jul-18-16
 | | WannaBe: Okay, time for "What Is Your Call". =))
http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/... Above is a link to the layout/seating of AT&T Park in San Francisco. Bottom 9, or bottom of an extra inning, runner on first. He's fast runner, say Crawford. Giants batter hits one just fair down first base line and it's headed towards section 103, or 104. A fan reaches over and touches the live ball. Now:
Q1: If the fan is dressed in obvious Giants gear, is it a ground rule double? Does the runner on first score? Q2: If the fan is dressed in opposing team's gear, is it a ground rule double? Does the runner on first gets sent home for the winning run? Q3: If the fan loyalty can't be identified, or is wearing a third team's gear, what is the call? Q4: Do we have/get a Fan-Inteference-Off? |
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Jul-18-16
 | | saffuna: <wannabe> This relates to a discussion on Rogoff page, and you know, no intention to offend. If somebody calls you a "chinaman," does that offend you? No need to answer if you don't want to. I fall on the "offensive" side. |
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Jul-18-16
 | | saffuna: Don't think the loyalties of the fan matter.
What matters much more is what happens when a player catches a ball in the stands and it's covered with nacho cheese, as happened in San Diego? In that case nobody was on base, so it didn't matter. But say there were runners on and less than two out, would they have had to play on with the chesse ball? How about a mustard ball? A beer ball? |
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Jul-18-16
 | | WannaBe: ex-Cardinals executive must serve jail for hacking Astros database. https://sports.yahoo.com/news/forme... |
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Jul-19-16
 | | WannaBe: Today's MLB games have huuuuuuge lines:
SFG @ BOS (-185)
ATL @ CIN (-155)
CLE (-147) @ KC
SD @ STL (-207)
TOR (-190) @ ARZ
HOU (-165) @ OAK
Wow, just wow. (Okay, maybe the CLE and ATL should be medium line, not big) |
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Jul-19-16
 | | WannaBe: New chip in football:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/p... |
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| Jul-19-16 | | playground player: <Esteemed Baseball Mavens> Is Harry Hooper the one and only outfielder to make the Hall of Fame without ever leading his league in a single offensive category? I can't find another. |
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Jul-19-16
 | | Phony Benoni: Goodness gracious, when did they let him in? Oh, I see -- 1971, when he was still alive. Actually, in 1911 he did lead the league in plate appearances and sacrifice hits, but not any real offensive categories. Must have been a heck of an outfield, but certainly outfields rarely merit consideration on their glove work. |
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Jul-19-16
 | | Penguincw: I don't know why I bothered doing this, but just looking at members of the Baseball HOF (those listed with an OF position) and whether or not they have any bolded stats in their baseball-reference page. 4 players played in the Negro Baseball League but none have played since 1956. They also were selected by rather the Veterans Committee based on Negro league career (NLC) or Special committee on the Negro Leagues and the Pre-Negro League (SLNC): Cool Papa Bell, Oscar Charleston, Willard Brown and Cristobal Torriente. The other 2 are Joe Kelley and Tommy McCarthy. McCarthy led the league in SB, PA and AB, but not anything else offensive. Joe Kelley led the NL in SB in 1896. I however, have heard of none of these players before, although the last 2 sound like players/broadcasters I do know. |
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Jul-19-16
 | | WannaBe: <Penguincw> Well, there's Tom Kelley, ex-Twins manager, and there's Tim McCarver for announcer. =)) |
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Jul-19-16
 | | WannaBe: LAD have placed Ryu back on DL and "shut down" Kershaw as his back is still bothering him. Ugh!! |
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Jul-20-16
 | | WannaBe: Reviewing yesterday's big odds games:
SFG @ BOS (-185) BoSox won.
ATL @ CIN (-155) Braves won.
CLE (-147) @ KC Cleveland won.
SD @ STL (-207) Postponed
TOR (-190) @ ARZ Toronto won.
HOU (-165) @ OAK Oakland won. |
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Jul-20-16
 | | WannaBe: From ESPN:
<Jacoby Ellsbury (@Yankees): Reached base on catcher's interference Tuesday for the ninth time this season (most in MLB history)> |
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Jul-20-16
 | | WannaBe: Sometimes, just have to really watch your a$$.
http://www.sfgate.com/athletics/art... |
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Jul-20-16
 | | Penguincw: How's about reducing the MLB season?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/7/... 154 games is about 5% reduction. Thoughts?
I like the current format as it, but if I had to change it to whatever I want, I would probably make it (assume 1 series = 3 games), 2 series (1 home and 1 away) against 5 interleague teams (same division, rotate every 3 years), 2 series against intraleague teams and 4 series against intradivision teams, so 138 game season. If you make it 6 series/intradivision team, then it's a 162 game season. But the benefit is this is that every team will face every other team at least every 3 years (wait, isn't that what's happening already). Obviously there are tons of complications if any games are dropped or added from the MLB season, unless it's like Game 163 tiebreaker or something. But remember MLB technically only plays 54 games/season/team right now (it's just that each series is usually 3 games). One thing I would rather see is extended postseason. My proposal is to add an addition round - the LWCS (League Wild Card Series). Make it 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5, fixed bracket. Top 3 teams get top 3 seeds, then 5 wild cards (so like NHL a few years ago). This additional round is best of 5, rest of postseason is normal. |
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Jul-20-16
 | | WannaBe: I still favour the <WannaBe> proposal: 3H 3A vs your own League. 2H 2A vs the opposing league. Equal and fair schedule everyone plays everyone; and that would be a total of 144 games. So, example, TOR would play 3H 3A vs every AL, and 2H 2A vs every NL. Picture this, LAD@SF or Cubs@StL, you know the (opposing) team will be there once, this is your <ONLY> chance to boo them. Guaranteed sell-outs. Owners can jack-up the ticket prices so high, it will compensate for the lost 18 games. Think about that, on average, a team play 6 games a week, that 3 weeks. You can start the season later (avoid snow outs in Cleveland, or Cincinnati, or NY). Or you can finish the season 2 weeks earlier, and avoid playing World Series Game 7 on Christmas Day. |
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Jul-20-16
 | | WannaBe: This Day in History:
Some guy set foot on the Moon and proclaimed it was a small step, because NASA's lowest bidder made space shoes too small. In another unrelated news, some pitcher hit a home run for the Giants. Nothing else happened on this day in history. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | Penguincw: Wow, SF-BOS, BOS 8-0, 8-7, won 11-7.
< WannaBe: ... >
I like that idea better than mine. I'm under the assumption that there has to be more intradivision games than any other type of games, but it can be an equal amount. And yes, I imagine that any lost games can be compensated by the lower supply. I just found out that in some teams in the NFL, you have to reserve a spot or whatever in advance. There seems to be a backlog of about 30 years for Green Bay tickets. Although if Green Bay only has a population of around 100 K, and Lambeau Field can hold about 80 K, what's the backlog? But what's your thought on my postseason suggestion? Using the standings as of the end of Jul/19, here are the postseason matchups: CLE - KC, TEX - DET, BAL - HOU, BOS - TOR, SF - PIT, CHC - STL, WSH - NYM, LAD - MIA. It doesn't quite make sense to me that the league with the longest season has the shortest postseason, with the fewest teams allowed too. I mean, by the All-Star Break, almost half the league realistically, won't make the postseason. I do have to say I like the 4-team postseason better than the 5-team postseason, because the Wild Card Game, although can be entertaining, basically means a team with 1 great SP and 3 bad SP is more likely to win than a team with 4 good SP. I'm sure most teams can win a game vs. just about any team, but not a series. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | WannaBe: I like fewer teams in the play-off. Make the regular season more valuable. And by making regular season less games, each game becomes more important. Imagine, if you will, NFL now have 4 divisions, if only the division champs qualify, (yes, two less teams in the play-offs, one less round) each and every of the 16 regular season game's importance just got bigger. Then again, you'd get some 9-7 team winning a very weak division, and a 10-6 or 11-5 team miss out because they are in a tougher division. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | Penguincw: < WannaBe: I like fewer teams in the play-off. Make the regular season more valuable. And by making regular season less games, each game becomes more important. > True. A benefit of not having more teams make the postseason is that most teams by the Trade Deadline will know if they are buyers or sellers. Right now, teams like the Yankees, 5 games out of a postseason spot, are sellers, as there seems to be a lot of demand for their closer, Aroldis Chapman. With 8 teams, they actually currently hold the 8th spot, and probably would be buyers. 5 years ago, these teams finished with a losing record; now, they are all within 3 games of a postseason spot (current format): BAL, WSH, NYM, FLA/MIA, PIT and HOU. Re-building! In contrast, Dodgers seem to be buyers right now. It's kinda hard to follow a team that's in the opposite league and on the opposite side of the continent, but looks like Dodgers could use some pitching help. I mean, they're decent without Kershaw (FTR: they should not rush his return), but the other starters usually don't go deep into games, so the bullpen has done a lot of work (one of the starters Urias, who is under a pitch count too). Maybe a starter who can go long and more bullpen arms would be useful. < Then again, you'd get some 9-7 team winning a very weak division, and a 10-6 or 11-5 team miss out because they are in a tougher division. > Yes, that's why there are wild card teams. Recent example, last year before Wild Card teams were eligible to make the postseason, the 1993 Giants (MLB) finished 103-59, one game back of the Braves, missing the postseason. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | WannaBe: Why is MLB wasting their time with non-issues like this? http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1... In other news: LAD 6, WAS 1. Strasburg 6R 6ER still in the game. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | Penguincw: < WannaBe: Why is MLB wasting their time with non-issues like this? > Something tells me maybe Manfred wants to leave a legacy, and he'll do things like basically address baseball's #1 concern: games are too long. IMHO, if MLB really wanted to reduce time, how about reducing how long it takes to throw a bunch of pitches. Why does it take like 1 minute/pitch? Well, pitchers always got to step off the mound, batters adjust their gloves after looking at ball 1, etc. I heard there's some rule in MLB where the pitcher has like 12 seconds to pitch a ball or else a ball is called on a pitcher, but I never see it enforced. I'm sure it can be enforced though. If things like StatCast exist, then there can be a timer to time how long it takes a pitcher to throw a pitch. There are other things that I don't mind taking up time, such as IBB. Coaching visits should be kept to a minimum, but they are regulated. Relief pitchers, if I were a manager, I would have a relief pitcher pitch to more than 1 batter every time (unless due to injury or something). (and other stuff that I forgot about)
And regarding shortening the season, I just realized that if there are fewer games, to make up for lost ad revenue, there has to be more commercials (or commercials will be more expensive). |
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Jul-21-16
 | | saffuna: <Yes, that's why there are wild card teams. Recent example, last year before Wild Card teams were eligible to make the postseason, the 1993 Giants (MLB) finished 103-59, one game back of the Braves, missing the postseason.> <Recent example, last year before Wild Card teams were eligible to make the postseason, the 1993 Giants (MLB) finished 103-59, one game back of the Braves, missing the postseason.> On the other hand SF and Atlanta had a nerve-wracking pennant race, down to the last day, which wouldn't have happened with the wild card. They both would have made it. You give a little, you get a little. Now if San Diego hadn't gift-wrapped Fred McGriff midseason and shipped him to the Braves, the Giants would have won easily. |
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Jul-21-16
 | | WannaBe: Hmmm, no one really took a try at that Ground Rule Double and Fan Interference scenario question. I asked that question in seriousness, not as a gag =) |
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Jul-21-16
 | | OhioChessFan: I won't stake my reputation on it, but I think the umpires have complete discretion in all scenarios. |
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