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Sep-06-09
 | | jessicafischerqueen: <Phony Benoni>
Many, many thanks for "correcting the corrector."
Perhaps nothing more foolish than a "correction" that is not even correct. I have changed my post on the <Kholmov> Player Page, with proper attribution to you. I have a Book right here with every cross table of every <Bobby Fischer> tournament. I am attempting to help <suenteus po> by supplying historical information for a games collection on <Skopje 1967>, so I'm very, very, interested in getting ALL of the facts straight. As a librarian/chess scholar, I know you understand the importance of accurate historical reporting. Jess |
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| Sep-06-09 | | Jim Bartle: Nadal just doesn't miss. When he gets tight he tends to spin the ball too much, but it just falls short in the court rather than going out. I really don't understand how he generates so much power when all the energy seems to go upward, into spinning the ball. On the other hand, the two big women's matches yesterday (Oudin-Sharapova, Kvitova-Safina) were error-fests, with Sharapova and Safina basically choking away the matches. Sharapova had 20 double faults. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | hms123: <Jim Bartle>
<I really don't understand how he generates so much power when all the energy seems to go upward, into spinning the ball.> I understand that you mean that the energy spent on the spin ought to take away from the energy put into hitting the ball hard. In fact, Nadal seems to have more than enough energy to do both. That means that he can hit the ball harder (faster to the other side of the net) because the rotation of the ball leads it drop fast and thus hit inside the court rather than outside. It is also the reason that he hits short now and then--he is not providing enough straight-ahead force to compensate for the rapid drop of the ball caused by the rotation. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | Jim Bartle: Exactly. It just seems if you look at Nadal's stroke itself without watching the ball, it just looks as if it would be all spin without too much forward speed, sort of like Gabriela Sabatina's shots used to be. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | Jim Bartle: Watching the SF-Milwaukee game today, the Giants' Pedro Sandoval got a single, and was held on first by Prince Fielder. I was afraid a sumo match would break out. And how about that routine women's match in NY today? Clijsters over Venus Williams 6-0 0-6 6-4. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | A.G. Argent: Yeah, I know, I saw highlights. Dudes are rotund. And Fielder is so massive that when he jumped on home plate after his walk-off winning pop, all the guys there waiting for him all fell over from the impact. Pretty funny, actually, obviously a ritual of theirs. But how many walk-off homers does Fielder hit for it to be a thing of theirs. Quite sure you didn't find it overly humorous, you woulda liked the sweep. I know, I wanted the Cards to take the third game against the Pirates. Time to get greedy. All games are now very important. And that was a beautiful, fully extended, parallel to the ground, flat-out great catch by Velez in the 1st inning. Reminded me a of a very similar catch I saw Andy Van Slyke make once, speaking of the Bucs and their glory years. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | Jim Bartle: Actually, when I wrote that, I didn't know who'd won. I'm not that concerned about any particular game (yet), but it irritates the hell out of me that the pitchers are giving up 0/1/2 runs per game, and the team is still losing half of them. You've got to score runs some time. I caught a half-glimpse of Velez' catch. I assume I'll have a chance to see it properly. I heard the Milwaukee announcers say, "No need to wait for the rest of the games--that's the catch of the day." |
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Sep-06-09
 | | Phony Benoni: Speaking of sweeps, the Tigers got one down in Tampa this weekend. Considering their road woes so far this year, that's a good sign. Today's game almost gave me cause to be optimistic. That, and their 7-game lead. Ninth inning, Tigers are down 3-1. Brandon Inge, who had struck out three times previously, comes up to bat with the bases loaded. Yup. He pops a grand slam. I usually follow the games on the CBS.com scoreboard, and the people who "glog" during the games there can be inane; they are good with stats, but don't always understand how the game is played. Situation: ninth inning, down two runs, runners on first and second with one out. Batter hits a single, and the runner on second stops at third. The whole gang is up in arms. "What's wrong with Cabrera? The fat bum didn't even try to score!" On, come on. When you're down two runs in the ninth, you don't take a chance trying to score a run that still leaves you one behind. |
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| Sep-06-09 | | Jim Bartle: Right. And those same people who cried "What's wrong with Cabrera?" would have been screaming "What an idiot" had he been thrown out at home. |
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Sep-07-09
| | Phony Benoni: We haven't done Game of the Day for awhile. For Labor Day (U.S.), it seems appropriate to showcase a doubleheader from 1924: http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1924... http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1924... Two remarkable features: the games took a total of 2:32 to play, and ... well, count the number of walks. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: Sorry if I asked this before, but I want to find a game in San Francisco, around 1963, where Frank Robinson went HBP (charged mound)/HR/K/HR/K. I went to that game and I've never seen a guy electrify a crowd like Robinson did that day. |
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Sep-07-09
 | | WannaBe: <Jim Bartle> That was when Frank was with the Cincinnati Reds (I had to google that one, since I was about -20 years old at that time...) So, at that time, before all the expansion teams and what nots... Was the Reds in the NL West? Or was it the NL East? Or did they just have one NL? And no East/West back then?? Or is that even revelent? Or am I just being an idiot <WannaBe>?? =) Okay, if Frank charges the mound on the first HBP, he was being retaliated against... Did the previous batter hit a homer? Was it something from the previous game(s)?? |
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Sep-07-09
| | WannaBe: I found this, via Wiki, by reading a page on a baseball player... 1) The second African-American to be a manger of a MLB team. 2) The first African-American to hit a home run in a World Series game. 3) The 3rd American to play in the Japanese League.
The answer to 1-3 are the same person... However, from reading that page
on Wiki, I found/learned the following:
4) Whos is the first American-born player to play in the Japanese League. 5) Who is the only American-born player to be in the Japanese League Hall of
Fame.
The answer to 4-5 are the same person.
6) Don Newcombe finished his professional career with what team? And yes, much like Sunday's NY Times crossword puzzle, they all have a common thread/theme!! |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: Just the National League back then, the eight old teams plus the Mets and Colt .45s (later Astros). Robinson crowded the plate and was combative. He batted third or fourth in the first inning, and got nailed in the shoulder or head. Charged the mound and both teams charged out as well. But no, there was no specific reason he was thrown out, except that he was Frank Robinson. Next time up, he was booed terribly, of course. (Despite being a bona fide local hero from Oakland.) He hit a very long home run and took his time around the bases. The strikeouts and the second homer were all got big reactions from the crowd. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: OK, I found it. http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/... August 64. It was Ron Herbel who beaned him, so it must have felt as if a mosquito had bitten him. |
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Sep-07-09
| | Phony Benoni: Wild game. Later, Bob Purkey hit Jim Ray Hart, then Purkey got hit, then he came back a few innings later and hit Hart again. Of course, I think Purkey threw a knuckleball, so his HBPs don't really count. |
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Sep-07-09
| | Phony Benoni: <WannaBe> I think your first player is Larry Doby, and the second is Lefty O'Doul. Not sure about who Don Newcombe ended up with, but I have the feeling it's some team in Japan. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: Funny, I don't remember any of the later beanings. All I remember was Robinson swinging for the fences in the rest of his at-bats, and either connecting or whiffing. I wonder which was harder, Herbel's fastball or the typical knuckleball. |
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Sep-07-09
| | Phony Benoni: I guess that's where they got the idea for the gentle shampoo containimg Herbel Essence. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: "A whiff of Herbel Essence"
Herbel had a lifetime average of .393. That is, he put the ball in play 39% of the time. His batting average was .029. |
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| Sep-07-09 | | A.G. Argent: <Wannabe> Ok, now you can't leave that hanging; that's too good of a trivia question but I might agree with Jim, that your thread is that they were all involved with the same Japanese team. And did you just admit to being the oldest guy here? |
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| Sep-07-09 | | Jim Bartle: Someone above asked about Raiders fans, and I said they're in denial. Here's a comment in today's SF Chronicle about the team picking up Richard Seymour: "All this losers coming here talking crap are just pissed because there team still suck. While the Raiders keep moving forword. Merriwoman injoy jail roid boy i think u will see a lot of that in your future. Keep getting mad while we improve are team. Let the haters hate while i look even more forword too monday night." |
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Sep-07-09
| | Phony Benoni: Nice game by Brad Penny today. |
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Sep-07-09
| | WannaBe: Larry Doby is correct, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_...
By reading that article, it led me to the others...
And this is really neat:
First American-born player to play in the Japanese League, he also is the first Asian of Japanese ancestry to play in the NFL, for the 49'ers!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_... Don Newcombe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Ne... finished his career with Chunichi Dragons, which is the same team that Wally Yonamine played for. (I don't know if they were teammates or not... The wiki article doesn't say). |
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Sep-07-09
 | | keypusher: I am not even a real Yankees fan, I just live in New York and am friends with a lot of Yankees fans. But my God, they look unbeatable right now. Good pitching + 20 HR hitters from one end of the lineup to the other makes baseball seem like a very easy game. |
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