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Jul-07-07
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click for larger viewWhite to move
(I'm assuming I'm providing a service here? If you don't like these posts tell me to shut up.) |
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| Jul-07-07 | | tjoffy: <PeerGynt>
It is really really simple. It is not allowed to receive external help, period.
Please read Fide Laws of Chess article 12.2a, and you will find that the motivation to cheat ("Cheating to win" or "cheating to lose") is not mentioned. With good reason. It is completely irrelevant, and no distinction should be made.
Chess is a game between only two players, and if one player deliberately receives external help it is cheating no matter the source of the moves, or his motivation to do so.<Topalov haters made "cheating to lose" a crime, because they have a very serious problem with Topalov's moves. They see the obvious destination - Topalov, they see the possible transmission - Danailov, but they don't see the source - computer.> I am not a "Topalov hater" and I personally do not believe any cheating allegations until proven.
But in the above example, IF indeed the transmission of moves from Danailov to Topalov were undisputably proven, they should be punished accordingly.
It would be cheating, and I would not care what means Danailov used to come up with the moves, be it Rybka or Little Chess Partner. |
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: T vs K
click for larger viewWhite to move, this is getting wild |
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| Jul-07-07 | | Eyal: Strange Bg5-Bc1 maneuvering by Topalov. Kasim seems to have missed the very strong 28...Nc5! |
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Jul-07-07
 | | SwitchingQuylthulg: <sneaky: Ah, so now if we don't suspect Topalov of cheating we're not critical thinkers. You say that you do not accuse Topalov of cheating and yet those two words, "Topalov" and "cheating", tend to find themselves in close proximity in your writings.> hmm let's analyse this kibitz...- 3 instances of "Topalov"
- 3 instances of "cheating"
- average number of words between closest instances of "Topalov" and "cheating": 1 word (average length 2.7 letters) that's what I'd call "close proximity in one's writings", so by your own logic, you're accusing Topalov of cheating. |
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| Jul-07-07 | | Eyal: A big advantage again to Kasim after 34.Bh3, allowing Ne4 - Qh3 was probably better. |
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: T vs K
click for larger viewWhite to move after Ne2+
(I got 200 chessbucks on Kasim here! And I like what I see!) |
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: T vs K
click for larger viewWhite to play.
Incredible. Topalov = Houdini??
<SwitchingQuylthulg: so by your own logic, you're accusing Topalov of cheating.> Well, by my own logic I am slandering Topalov. Sadly, yes. That's the horrible backlash of unfounded accusations, it becomes impossible to even discuss the matter without maligning somebody's character at least indirectly. |
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| Jul-07-07 | | ganstaman: <anandr: Today's baby-GMs (Karjakin, Carlsen, Negi) seem to have been born with the laptop :-)> Oh yes, there's no denying this.
I'm wondering what Tal would have been like had he been born today. Would he still have figured that his opponents are humans and can't withstand all the pressure, or would he have seen them more as computers who can't be attacked with such disregard for material? |
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| Jul-07-07 | | Eyal: Kasim missed a relatively easy win with 40...Nf4. |
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Jul-07-07
| | SwitchingQuylthulg: <Kasim missed a relatively easy win with 40...Nf4.> Well he was down to 1 second. 40...Nf4 would have been a losing mistake, as he didn't have the time to grab a piece on the other side of the board ;-) |
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: T vs K
click for larger viewWhite to move. By the way, I am compiling solid evidence that Topalov is using Sigma Chess for the Macintosh to cheat. And Kasim is too, for that matter. |
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: T vs K
click for larger viewBlack to move. Kasim may have missed the shot Qxd2+ (not sure if that's best in this case), but in any case he went for Rd8 instead. |
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Jul-07-07
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click for larger viewWhite to move and here comes the exchange sac, Rxg4! |
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| Jul-07-07 | | peabody88: Round 1 for Topalov!
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Jul-07-07
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: WHEW!! What a game!
click for larger viewfinal position |
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| Jul-07-07 | | acirce: What a neat win 40..Nf4 would have been. |
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| Jul-07-07 | | Eyal: <Kasim may have missed the shot Qxd2+> Yeah, he could have saved himself by 57...Qxd2+ 58.Kxd2 Rxd6+. |
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| Jul-07-07 | | cominatcha: Awesome! The bloke has "it" |
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| Jul-07-07 | | adf: didnt kasim look better in the middlegame? |
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Jul-07-07
| | Sneaky: <Eyal: <Kasim may have missed the shot Qxd2+> Yeah, he could have saved himself by 57...Qxd2+ 58.Kxd2 Rxd6+.> Yeah that's an easy draw isn't it? So he missed a win, then he missed the draw... he missed the boat. My chessbucks aren't dead money yet, let round two begin! <anybody> Are my diagrams annoying or should I keep doing it? Feedback please! |
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| Jul-07-07 | | 64senses: Acirce. Absolutely right. Anand would have got it. Somebody call Kasim and tell him NF4 |
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| Jul-07-07 | | PeerGynt: Kasim played passively when he should have been more aggressive. This is how he missed his best chances. Being passive against Topalov is suicidal. |
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| Jul-07-07 | | acirce: <<Kasim may have missed the shot Qxd2+> Yeah, he could have saved himself by 57...Qxd2+ 58.Kxd2 Rxd6+.> Not that I know if it would have helped in the long run. 59.Ke3 Rxe6+ 60.fxe6 and White has a dangerous e-passer and the superior minor piece. Black of course has two connected passers but White will also get that after Bxa4, the long-range bishop then being clearly better than the knight. |
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