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|Nov-04-11|| ||nimh: <well, 80% useless imo. but better than Reti's "New ideas in chess" which is a 100% flop.>|
What's wrong with that book?
|Nov-04-11|| ||JoergWalter: <nimh> Reti's "New ideas in chess" is a compilation of articles by Reti which was published in 1922. Mainly, a reply to Franz Gutmayer.
"New ideas" meant new to Gutmayer.
Comments on games are very superficial and that the famous consultation game Fähndrich/Kaufmann vs Capablanca/Reti is such a revelation concerning opening principles was already doubted back then. I really do not see the purpose for this book and why it should be recommended as "classical reading".
If this book was not printed would we miss anything?
|Nov-04-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Most chess minds think of Reti's books as landmarks ... and I happen to agree with that.|
|Nov-04-11|| ||JoergWalter: <LIFE Master AJ: Most chess minds think of Reti's books as landmarks ... and I happen to agree with that.>|
who cares about your agreement? Reti?
For Reti you would have been another example of Franz Gutmayer.
|Nov-04-11|| ||JoergWalter: <LIFE Master AJ: Most chess minds think of Reti's books as landmarks>|
I do not think you own one and if so, that you have read it.
|Nov-04-11|| ||LIFE Master AJ: "Stupid is as stupid does ..."
- Forrest Gump
|Nov-04-11|| ||JoergWalter: <LIFE Master AJ: "Stupid is as stupid does ..."
- Forrest Gump>
So, we'll call you LIFE Master Dump?
|Nov-07-11|| ||JoergWalter: The earliest mention of 31...Rg8+ I found as of now is in:|
Schachmagazin 64 no. 18 in 1992.
Remembering the 150th birthday of Zukertort by Armin Heintze.
|Nov-08-11|| ||JoergWalter: <LIFE Master AJ: <patzer2>
Seems someone borrowed an improvement ... and is trying to claim it for their own.>|
|Nov-09-11|| ||Llawdogg: Wow! This is an amazing game.|
|Nov-09-11|| ||Llawdogg: 28 Qb4! and 29 Rf8+! were two consecutive decoy moves! Amazing!|
|Jan-19-12|| ||Archerforthelord: wow, this is the first flame war ive ever seen on a website for chess O.O|
|Jul-11-13|| ||Pawn and Two: This game was in a fine balance until Black's 22nd move:|
click for larger view
At this point, Blackburne played 22...Nxf6??, and then Zukertort found the winning line, matching Houdini's analysis exactly for the following moves: (4.68) (26 ply) 22...Nxf6?? 23.f5! Ne4 24.Bxe4! dxe4 25.fxg6!. On his 25th move, Blackburne made a very good try with 25...Rc2, and Zukertort had to find several more stunning moves to win this masterpiece.
Correct at move 22, with a nearly equal evaluation was 22...Qxf6!. Houdini indicates that after 22...Qxf6!, White has a choice of 29 moves that allow White an equal or slightly better position. Here is one of Houdini's top choices: (.18) (26 ply) 22...Qxf6! 23.Ree1 Ng7 24.Rc1 Rxc1 25.Rxc1.
The only commentator that I have found to make note of 22...Qxf6!, was Zukertort himself! In the tournament book, he stated that Black should have retaken with the queen, 22...Qxf6 23.Qe1 Ng7 24.g4, but in his opinion, Black even then would have a difficult game, with White having unlimited time to force a probably irresistible attack.
In the variation given by Zukertort, 22...Qxf6! 23.Qe1 Ng7! 24.g4, Houdini indicates White has a slightly better position: (.21) (26 ply) 24...Bc6 25.Rg3 Rf7 26.f5 gxf5 27.gxf5. As noted by Zukertort, White appears to have a good opportunity for an attack after 22...Qxf6!, but it was clearly Black's best move.
|Apr-06-14|| ||Howard: This game was the second one in Reinfield's Chess Masters On Winning Chess.|
That's how I first came across it.
|Oct-06-15|| ||andrewjsacks: One of the great pleasures of one's chess youth is discovering games like this.|
|Oct-06-15|| ||offramp: <LIFE Master AJ: <moaom>
I first discovered this idea ... and wrote Larry Evans when I was a teenager. (He never responded.)>|
He did respond:
|Oct-06-15|| ||piltdown man: Man, what a game! But it's hard to believe that it has never been GOTD before.|
|Oct-06-15|| ||Bobby Fisch R: Zuckertorte would be correct spelling|
|Oct-06-15|| ||Mating Net: "The fiend has offered his Queen and it cannot be taken without suffering mate." That was a comment from the peanut gallery after the famous move.|
|Oct-06-15|| ||psmith: The Winter article linked to by <offramp> shows that 31. Rg8 was first found in 1957...|
|Oct-06-15|| ||psmith: That's http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...|
|Oct-06-15|| ||kevin86: A Decoy immortal! One of the greatest series of moves ever!|
|Oct-06-15|| ||offramp: <Bobby Fisch R: Zuckertorte would be correct spelling>|
On Zukertort's own page I give a fascinating letter-by-letter disquisition on his gravestone.
|Oct-06-15|| ||Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5o....|
|Oct-06-15|| ||The Kings Domain: Brilliant game by Zukertort. Reminds me of why I've always loved these vintage classics.|
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