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|Dec-22-05|| ||beatgiant: <EmperorAtahualpa>
<Why not 21...b6?>
White had the powerful threat of 22. e6. Do you see a defense to it?
|Dec-22-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: You're totally right, <beatgiant>, I overlooked it. I am just trying to find improvements for Black's defense, but it seems I can't find any.|
In general, Black has too much material stuck on the queenside, leaving the king vulnerably exposed and also resulting in no prospects for counterplay. This game is quite hopeless for Black!
Perhaps it's better to look for improvements for Black then around move 16 or 17?
|Dec-22-05|| ||offramp: 17...c5. Marshall, with only one piece in play - the knight at d7 - compared with his opponent's 4 pieces, decides to completely and utterly open the game up.|
A very original chess thinker.
|Dec-22-05|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: <offramp> LOL, I understand your sarcasm, but I would rather wish to know which way to improve Black's game!|
Yes indeed, move 17 seems to be the worst of all.
Any suggestions for improvement?
Perhaps 17...exd4 18.Qxd4 Qxd4 19.Qb6 Qxb6 20.Nxb6 (or perhaps 20.axb6) could lead to better chances?
|Dec-23-05|| ||offramp: Or possibly 17...exd4 18.Qxd4 Nf8. Black would lose a pawn but the queens would come off.|
|Jun-12-06|| ||Honza Cervenka: There is no satisfactory defense against 27.Qf6+ or 27.Qe5+.|
|Jul-30-07|| ||Fast Gun: Marshall appears to have Alekhine's "Bunny" In spite of his reputation and tournament successes, he was something of Whipping Boy for Capablanca and Lasker too:
v Capa 4 - 21
v Lasker 2 - 12
v Alekhine 0 - 7
With an overall score of 6 - 40 against arguably three of the strongest players of his generation:
Funny how Marshall always reminds me of Bent Larsen, a creative player who was colourful and entertaining, who achieved numerous tournament success, but never became World Champion and never really "cut it " with the big names of his own generation!!
|Jun-07-08|| ||Ulhumbrus: Instead of 16...e5, 16..dxc4 17 Bxc4 Nb6 frees Black's QB with tempo. On 18 Ba2 Bd7 prepares to develop the QR.|
|Apr-17-09|| ||notyetagm: Damn, what a *massacre*.|
|Jan-14-12|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <Alekhine> won the tournament Second Brilliancy Prize for this game.|
|Jan-14-12|| ||Penguincw: < Indian Game: Döry Indian >|
|Nov-09-12|| ||Infohunter: The Döry Defense is not seen too often. This game helps me understand some possible reasons for this. Even without the benefit of this example, however, that business of Black's making a second move with the Knight at his third turn without any real provocation doesn't leave the best impression.|
|Nov-09-12|| ||aidfarh: Can someone please explain the pun?|
|Nov-09-12|| ||consul: The game at that point is already lost, but i'm wondering why 23 .. a5 and not directly 23 .. g6 ...|
|Nov-09-12|| ||TheTamale: <Infohunter> And it seems Marshall's response to it is sub-optimal, doing the same thing, moving a piece twice. For all his daring, Marshall seemed to take a timid approach playing against unfamiliar openings.|
|Nov-09-12|| ||laskerian: <aidfarh: Can someone please explain the pun?>
(a)This game was played in New York, (b)There is this song by the band Eagles which is titled "In a New York Minute", and
(c)Marshall's move 3...Ne4, being prepared beforehand, probably occurred during his first minute of thinking time.|
|Nov-09-12|| ||paavoh: @aidfarh: Look it up at: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...>|
|Nov-09-12|| ||Abdel Irada: There may be something to be said for completing one's development before setting up a pawn formation like that after Black's 17th move, which is certain to open every possible line.|
Of course, without speculative aggression from the outset, it wouldn't be a Marshall game.
|Nov-09-12|| ||kevin86: The queen has to move to give the king breathing room...but they she cannot protect him anymore.|
|Nov-09-12|| ||chessgames.com: A "New York minute" is American slang, meaning some amount of time much shorter than a minute, as if to imply that New Yorkers are an impatient bunch. It's the etymological opposite of "a country mile", which is much longer than a mile.|
But the *real* reason why we used today's pun is to draw attention to our new feature which allows us to have organized, kibitzable pages for historical tournaments. If you look at the top of the page you'll see the clickable link
New York (1927) which takes you to our special page on that tournament. Enjoy!
|Nov-09-12|| ||TheFocus: <CG.Admins> You just keep making it better and better!!|
Hats off to you!
|Nov-09-12|| ||waustad: The pushes in the center when behind in development seem suicidal to me.|
|Nov-09-12|| ||perfidious: <Infohunter> Ten years on, there was a theme event held at Vienna devoted to 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 Ne4: http://www.365chess.com/tournaments....|
|Nov-09-12|| ||TheTamale: Hmm, I can't delete my last comment. It contained an error of perception... Alekhine played the weird response to Marshall's weird move, not the other way around.|
|Nov-09-12|| ||profK: The moral of this game should be 'develop or die !'..Frank didn't and he died.|
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