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Reuben Fine vs William Winter
"The Dead of Winter" (game of the day Aug-09-2008)
Nottingham (1936), Nottingham ENG, rd 7, Aug-17
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1-0
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Annotations by Alexander Alekhine.      [77 more games annotated by Alekhine]

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Jan-06-06  tayer: Nice game by Fine
Aug-11-07  sanyas: 25...a5 should hold.
Sep-05-07  RandomVisitor: 24...Qe6! 25.c6+ Rxb4
Sep-05-07  RandomVisitor: after 20...Ra8 21.Qb3 bxa6 how does white win?

Analysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up:
20-ply
1. = (0.10): 3.h4 Qe7 4.Qb7 Qd8 5.Qxc6 Ke7 6.Bc3 Rc8 7.d5 exd5 8.Qxd5 Ne5 9.Bxe5 Qxd5

2. = (0.00): 3.Qxe6+ Qe7 4.Qxc6 Ra7 5.Kb1 Qf7 6.Rhf1 Rxh2 7.Rh1 Rxh1 8.Rxh1 Qf6 9.Qd5 Qf7

Aug-09-08
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  Benzol: "Now is the winter of our discontent"
Aug-09-08  newzild: Alekine's notes are more interesting than the game itself.
Aug-09-08
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  Once: <newzild> Agree about the annotations. I enjoyed them much more than the rather artificial and unconvincing opening play by both players.

CG - minor typo on the note to move 6: "sheme" should be "scheme".

Aug-09-08
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  Morten: I thought that on 20...Ra8 21.Qb3 bxa6, the intention was 22. Qb7 picking up the bishop on c7. Does that not work according to Rybka?

Small "translation" error on the note to the 19th move. The reference to Be2 should be to Be7.

Aug-09-08
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  Richard Taylor: <Benzol: "Now is the winter of our discontent">

Made glorious summer by this son of York...

Aug-09-08
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  Richard Taylor: <RandomVisitor: after 20...Ra8 21.Qb3 bxa6 how does white win?

(0.00): 3.Qxe6+ Qe7 4.Qxc6 Ra7 5.Kb1 Qf7 6.Rhf1 Rxh2 7.Rh1 Rxh1 8.Rxh1 Qf6 9.Qd5 Qf7...>

Then 29 Rh8+ then if

29. ... Nh8 30. Qc6+ Kd8 (forced) 31. d5 looks very strong for White

Also if 29 ... Ke7 30. Qc6 Qf6 31. Qa4 and again it would be difficult for Black in practice... I would say.

of if 30.... Bxg3 31. d5 and Black is struggling

Aug-09-08
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  kevin86: In the middle of summer it is hard to think of the dead of winter.

It reminds me of a story about a tourist who came to Chicago during the 1988 heat wave,when it was 105 degrees. He asked a resident

,"Is it always this hot here?"-My response would have been:

"Sure,come back in six months or so,and we'll go to the beach". lol

Aug-09-08  RandomVisitor: After the suggested improvement 24...Qe6:
1: Reuben Fine - William Winter, Nottingham 1936


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Analysis by Rybka 3 :

25.Qxe6+ Kxe6 26.g4 fxg4 27.d5+ Kf7 28.Rhf1+ Nf6 29.d6 Bd8 30.c6 Bb6 31.Kb1 Ke6 32.d7 Nd5 33.Rf2 a5 34.Bd2 Bc7 35.Rc1 Rh3 36.Rc4 Kd6 37.Re2 g3 38.hxg3 Rxg3 39.Ka2 Bd8 40.Be1 <(-0.33) Depth: 19 >

Aug-09-08  ruyfanatic: Awwwwwwwwwwww....2.c6........Winter didn't accept the gambit.
Aug-09-08  RandomVisitor: After the suggested improvement 13.Qc2:
1: Reuben Fine - William Winter, Nottingham 1936


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Analysis by Rybka 3 :

<13.Qc2> Bb4 14.Qxe4 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 Nd7 16.Rd1 f5 17.Qf3 0-0-0 18.Kc2 Nf6 19.Kb1 Kb8 20.h4 Qd6 21.Bd3 Ng4 22.Rd2 <(0.66) Depth: 20>

Aug-09-08  Boomie: <Morten: I thought that on 20...Ra8 21.Qb3 bxa6, the intention was 22. Qb7 picking up the bishop on c7. Does that not work according to Rybka?>

22. Qb7 Qd8 defends everything. Better is 20...Ra8 21. Qb3 bxa6 22. Qze6+ Qe7 23. Qxc6 Ra7=

Aug-09-08  Boomie: Maybe Fine chose a goofy opening to conceal his intentions for later rounds. This was round 7 of 14 and Winter was arguably the weakest player in the tournament. See <Hesam7's> fine compilation at Game Collection: Nottingham 1936
Aug-09-08  RandomVisitor: After 13.Qc2 Bb4 14.Qxe4 Bxd2+ 15.Kxd2 Qb4+ 16.Kc2 Qa4+


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what does Rybka 3 suggest?

<17.Kc3!?> Nd7 18.Be2 Nf6 19.Qd3 0-0-0 20.a3 Rh3 21.Bf1 Rhh8 <(0.64) Depth: 19>

Sep-27-12  Conrad93: "A Fine Winter Morning" sounds better.
May-05-16
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  plang: The line with ..Bf5 and Nh4 was rarely played in those days. It became fashionable around 2000.

Included in Fine's book of best games though there is really not much to it.

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