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|Aug-31-16|| ||Herald Tutt: Thank you I rest my case.|
|Aug-31-16|| ||brankat: There has been no case here to begin with.|
|Aug-31-16|| ||perfidious: Gawd! Murka! Apple pie!
Trump forever! Clinton is a crook! (laughs)
|Aug-31-16|| ||thegoodanarchist: <I don't think there's that much ennui in the universe.>|
You'd be surprised......
|Aug-31-16|| ||saffuna: I'd respond to that foolishness but I can't find the energy.|
|Aug-31-16|| ||perfidious: Must be <saffuna> is feeling a touch of that ennui.|
If that poster plied his wares elsewhere, I would send him to iggydom; as matters stand, the one-trick pony is not worth the bother.
|Aug-31-16|| ||saffuna: Too much work to put someone on ignore...|
|Aug-31-16|| ||devere: <saffuna: Make America great again!! Trump 2016!>|
<perfidious: Trump forever! Clinton is a crook!>
Pigs are flying, and Big Pawn is so happy! LOL
|Sep-01-16|| ||Boomie: <Herald Tutt - Member since Aug-26-16>|
This moron came to CG for this?
Count your days here, HT, for they are numbered.
|Sep-01-16|| ||Boomie: As amusing as all of this has been (NOT), let's all blow the whistle on this guy and send him back under the rock from which he came.|
|Sep-01-16|| ||moronovich: Tutt Tutt is the sound of my ignore bottom.|
|Sep-04-16|| ||Herald Tutt: hey Boomie under the rock is still better than in the sewer where you've been all your life. And MORONovich, well your name says it all.....|
|Sep-06-16|| ||mckmac: Reuben Fine was a special player. In the immediate pre-war and post-war years, he and Samuel Reshevsky were really the only English-speaking masters with the skill and moxie to hold their own at the top level.|
|Sep-06-16|| ||MissScarlett: What's so special about English-speaking players? That's racist.|
|Sep-06-16|| ||Herald Tutt: You are right MissScarlett> >
Reuben Fine was also a racist. Please check the cruel and undue racist remarks which he made against extraordinary World Champion Tigran Petrosian mainly he did not like his skin color and where he came from. This fact is in historical records and not some junk rumor.
|Sep-06-16|| ||unferth: The internet puts the collected knowledge of humankind at one's fingertips, and Mr. Tutt chooses to use it to troll a handful of likeable, intelligent posters on an obscure subforum of a niche website. Funny, pathetic, or both? You make the call!|
|Oct-11-16|| ||brankat: Happy Birthday Mr.Fine!|
|Oct-12-16|| ||posoo: DIS MAN is handsum DOS ANYONE HAVE A LINKS to more lovely pics??|
|Oct-28-16|| ||MissScarlett: The Falkirk Herald, June 19th, 1940, p.8:
<A "Fine" Tourney: Mr H. Meek notes in London "Evening Times" :- "Reuben Fine, the famous young U.S.A. master, has recently made a tour which took him as far south as Mexico and as far north as Ottawa. He gave twenty exhibitions altogether, including blindfold, consultation and "serious" games. Out of a total number of 418 games, including 21 blindfold, Fine had the remarkable record of 393 wins, 22 draws and only 3 losses. Of the blindfold games alone, he wone [sic] 17, drew 4 and lost none. His biggest display was against 51 opponents in Mexico City, where he won 47, drew 4 and lost none - a single achievement that must rank with anything ever done by Alekhine or Capablanca. On no occasion did he lose more than one game in any display, the three losses being one each at Mexico City (another display to the one mentioned above), Chicago and Minneapolis.">
|Jan-06-17|| ||Dizzy Bishop: It is not sufficient to excel in this greatest of all games. Character is essential. Fine was an outright racist as per his undue comments against Petrosian. Fine was also a coward who gave unfounded and unbelievable excuses for chickening out of the world championship match against Botvinnik. Shame on Fine; a good player having a shameful character.|
|Jan-06-17|| ||Petrosianic: <Herald Tutt>: <petrosianic the only sad problem here is the endorsement of racism by keypusher, saffuna, perfidious and yourself. You will all be voting for Trump no doubt.>|
You've got this backwards, haven't you? It's not racist for me to disagree with you, it's racist for you to disagree with me under any and all circumstances.
|Jan-06-17|| ||Petrosianic: <Dizzy Bishop>: <It is not sufficient to excel in this greatest of all games. Character is essential. Fine was an outright racist as per his undue comments against Petrosian.>|
Calling him the weakest world champion is hardly evidence of racism. Fine was jealous of all the world champions, including Fischer, whom he also supported. Advertisements in CL&R for his (poorly written) book on the Fischer-Petrosian Match openly labeled Fine as "The Man Who Should Have Been World Champion", which is positively hilarious. It's hard to think of any other player who would say, or allow that to be said about him. It very clearly killed Fine that he never won that title so badly that he eventually tried to rationalize himself as co-world champion after Alekhine's death (based, of course, on his 2nd place finish at AVRO).
Nutty, yes (in fact, a whole book could probably be written about nutty psychiatrists). But racist? That's wishful thinking.
Fine was not cowardly for dropping out of the tournament. He simply decided, correctly, that he couldn't make a living at chess and wanted a real career. Nobody wants to end up like Schlechter. But it was dishonest of him years later to claim he'd dropped out out of dissatisfaction with a tournament format that he'd actually enthusiastically endorsed at the time.
|Jan-06-17|| ||Dionysius1: I don't agree <Dizzy Bishop>. All I find necessary for me to respect and admire an exponent of this great game is that he excel at it. His character away from the board is nothing to do with it.|
|Feb-06-17|| ||stoy: I believe that Garry Kasparov called Reuben Fine "one of the most underrated players in the history of chess".|
|Feb-06-17|| ||Howard: There was at least one other alleged reason why Fine turned down his invitation for the 1948 tournament--he suspected the three Soviets would probably collude to make sure that no outsider won the tournament.|
Yes, Fine was apparently jealous of Fischer. CL&R wrote back when his "book" on the 1972 match came out that "Fine's envy of Fischer" showed throughout the "book".
And for Fine to claim in it that it seemed "only fair" for him and Keres to be declared "co-champions of the world from 1946-48".....if that's not totally ludicrous, then I dunno what is.
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